[Splash & dash]

Regarding the fires statistics......most petrol/diesel car fires are by malicious ignition.....would imagine most EV fires are fault fires.

J and s is absolutely right above , you wont likely find the stats very easily but any firemen knows from experience that the majority of car fires are malicious on petrol/diesel .  The big danger with electric cars is that you can't put them out, some brigades now have a hiab with a skip full of water on the back to fully submerse vehicle for 24hrs.

I have been in the fire service 36 years and arson is very low  cause of car fires in our area 98 % are electrical faults or fuel leaks

You obviously dont work near paulsgrove then !

Are we talking about the tree surgeon ? If so I know him well , still doesn’t alter the figures for  vehicle fires in Cornwall though 😂😂😂

Paulsgrove estate is famous for not knowing the difference between pediatrician and peadophile.

Ok sorry I have a friend who is a tree surgeon with the same name thought you meant him 😂😂😂

[AuRavelling79]

Regarding the fires statistics......most petrol/diesel car fires are by malicious ignition.....would imagine most EV fires are fault fires.

J and s is absolutely right above , you wont likely find the stats very easily but any firemen knows from experience that the majority of car fires are malicious on petrol/diesel .  The big danger with electric cars is that you can't put them out, some brigades now have a hiab with a skip full of water on the back to fully submerse vehicle for 24hrs.

I have been in the fire service 36 years and arson is very low  cause of car fires in our area 98 % are electrical faults or fuel leaks

You obviously dont work near paulsgrove then !

Are we talking about the tree surgeon ? If so I know him well , still doesn’t alter the figures for  vehicle fires in Cornwall though 😂😂😂

Paulsgrove estate is famous for not knowing the difference between pediatrician and peadophile.

Ok sorry I have a friend who is a tree surgeon with the same name thought you meant him 😂😂😂

Poor sap.

[DJW]

Former Special Branch apparently.

[Perfect Windows]

Transporter has a 82 mile range.
That's why nobody wants them.
You'd be lucky to get 60 miles per charge on 1 realistically.

I've consistently been amazed at the mileages some people on here do. (or did, according to this poll from 2013 - http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174404.0)

My highest mileage in a single day on my round is 35 miles. And my round feels spread out to buggery. Where are you all going?

Vin

[Splash & dash]

Transporter has a 82 mile range.
That's why nobody wants them.
You'd be lucky to get 60 miles per charge on 1 realistically.

I've consistently been amazed at the mileages some people on here do. (or did, according to this poll from 2013 - http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174404.0)

My highest mileage in a single day on my round is 35 miles. And my round feels spread out to buggery. Where are you all going?

Vin

Most of our domestic is within a couple of miles from base ,,so a maximum of 5 miles a day  but we also do a fair bit of commercial all the way up to London so by the time we have done the lot going up it’s over 385 miles , it’s then a straight drive home of 285 , but from a financial point of view it’s a no brainier been doing this for 20 years .

[Ggh]

Transporter has a 82 mile range.
That's why nobody wants them.
You'd be lucky to get 60 miles per charge on 1 realistically.

I've consistently been amazed at the mileages some people on here do. (or did, according to this poll from 2013 - http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174404.0)

My highest mileage in a single day on my round is 35 miles. And my round feels spread out to buggery. Where are you all going?

Vin

Anywhere in the UK.

[zesty]

My local rounds are within 5 miles as an average, but like others, I’ll travel 30 odd miles or more for commercial and even further for softwash jobs.

I still do less than 9000 miles a year

[AuRavelling79]

Just looked at Vin's quoted thread from 2013.

Two points.

1. I still do about 5,000 miles a year - on business. I bought my van new in 2012 and 11.5 years later it's on 71,000 so allowing for a handful of camping/canoeing trips to Scotland and the Lakes, moving my caravan and student moving runs to London it's about right.

2. I think Vin and I have mellowed somewhat since 2013. 

[Arnold Palmer]

Just looked at Vin's quoted thread from 2013.

Two points.

1. I still do about 5,000 miles a year - on business. I bought my van new in 2012 and 11.5 years later it's on 71,000 so allowing for a handful of camping/canoeing trips to Scotland and the Lakes, moving my caravan and student moving runs to London it's about right.

2. I think Vin and I have mellowed somewhat since 2013. 

Not me.

[C.C.S.]

I think these 2 are interesting/good choices for window cleaning .I know they would be for me and the majority that don't travel to much . Rather this than a diesel one , not that I'm against it it's just o hear so many with issues with Dpf's , Egr's , Ad blue , injectors .


https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202308311379238?sort=distance&advertising-location=at_vans&fuel-type=Electric&include-delivery-option=on&page=3&postcode=CO3%200QX&supplied-price-to=18000&year-from=2021&fromsra

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202306299063885?sort=distance&advertising-location=at_vans&fuel-type=Electric&include-delivery-option=on&postcode=CO3%200QX&supplied-price-to=22500&year-from=2021&fromsra

[Arnold Palmer]

I went to look at a maxus. It was really cheap but the chassis looked like I'd made it in my workshop. In fact I think I'd have done a better job.

It was 1 year old had 2000 miles on the clock and was selling for really cheap.

I walked away.

[Arnold Palmer]

An hour long but very interesting.

https://youtu.be/LeHakmL6eEc?si=Cs9LfncAWiKzksSJ

Points raised by fleet owners (10s if not 100s of thousands of vehicles) dispelling myths about electric vehicles.

[AuRavelling79]

Something we may not have considered and which will likely feed into any decisions.

Insurance Premiums.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/30/the-quotes-were-5000-or-more-electric-vehicle-owners-face-soaring-insurance-costs

[Arnold Palmer]

Something we may not have considered and which will likely feed into any decisions.

Insurance Premiums.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/30/the-quotes-were-5000-or-more-electric-vehicle-owners-face-soaring-insurance-costs

Not been any more expensive for me so far.

[AuRavelling79]

Something we may not have considered and which will likely feed into any decisions.

Insurance Premiums.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/30/the-quotes-were-5000-or-more-electric-vehicle-owners-face-soaring-insurance-costs

Not been any more expensive for me so far.

When was your last renewal of the main motor policy?

[Arnold Palmer]

Something we may not have considered and which will likely feed into any decisions.

Insurance Premiums.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/30/the-quotes-were-5000-or-more-electric-vehicle-owners-face-soaring-insurance-costs

Not been any more expensive for me so far.

When was your last renewal of the main motor policy?

July

[windowswashed]

Insurance companies are refusing to insure one make of Tesla simply because of the battery fires and the fact that the  risks are not well known as they are still relatively new so they have little records to base their quotes on.

[Ched]

Insurance companies are refusing to insure one make of Tesla simply because of the battery fires and the fact that the  risks are not well known as they are still relatively new so they have little records to base their quotes on.

Sounds like a good few companies will no longer insure EV's full stop! They say they are too expensive to repair.
From what I have been seeing on Youtube the manufacturers are basically either refusing to supply parts ( I though that was against law - must sell spares for 6 or 8 years?) or are software locking stuff and refusing to unlock on 'safety' grounds.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

https://electrek.co/2023/09/29/honda-unveils-10k-electric-n-van-e-130-mile-range-v2h/

Interesting if they sell them for $10k.  Worth the punt maybe as we don't cover many miles.

[AuRavelling79]

https://electrek.co/2023/09/29/honda-unveils-10k-electric-n-van-e-130-mile-range-v2h/

Interesting if they sell them for $10k.  Worth the punt maybe as we don't cover many miles.

It's a micro van. A sort of flying fridge suited to city runabout stuff.

The petrol version has been around since 2018 with a 650cc engine and 350kg payload.