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AuRavelling79

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2023, 09:43:21 am »
And ...

A more recent report conducted by Health and Safety organisation CE Safety found that there have been 753 callouts to EV fires in the UK over the past five years. This total includes all types of electric vehicle, including e-scooters and e-bikes, with electric cars representing 44%.

Thompson, from Thatcham Research, commented: “We know that vehicle manufacturers have designed their batteries and high voltage components to be very well protected, so there isn't really any additional concern about fires.

“I think in the early days, people were very concerned about it, because it was very much an unknown. But thanks to the design work that's gone in to protect the battery components, I’d say that we're not seeing any evidence that there is a greater fire risk with electric cars.”


Finally ...

Thompson explains: “Because EVs don't have an engine up front, they actually have more space to absorb the energy of an impact instead of letting occupants take the force of it.”
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Soupy

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2023, 10:06:16 am »
Just hope you aren't involved in an accident and that the batteries don't catch fire.

John Cadogan on Youtube has made some good observations.

We have a customer working on a fuel storage site (one of 4) on Teesside. No electric or hybrid vehicles are allowed on site due to fire risk.

I've no idea who that is but he appears to be an Australian journalist?

Google it and come to your own conclusions.

Ncap seem happy though.

https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/electric-vehicles/
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EandM

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2023, 01:28:00 pm »
Just hope you aren't involved in an accident and that the batteries don't catch fire.

John Cadogan on Youtube has made some good observations.

We have a customer working on a fuel storage site (one of 4) on Teesside. No electric or hybrid vehicles are allowed on site due to fire risk.

I've no idea who that is but he appears to be an Australian journalist?

Google it and come to your own conclusions.

Ncap seem happy though.

https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/electric-vehicles/

He waffles a bit but he's an interesting chap.

He's a decent journalist but previously an engineer with a degree in mechanical engineering.

He's very good at sussing out bogus claims from manufacturers.

Soupy

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2023, 01:31:31 pm »
Just hope you aren't involved in an accident and that the batteries don't catch fire.

John Cadogan on Youtube has made some good observations.

We have a customer working on a fuel storage site (one of 4) on Teesside. No electric or hybrid vehicles are allowed on site due to fire risk.

I've no idea who that is but he appears to be an Australian journalist?

Google it and come to your own conclusions.

Ncap seem happy though.

https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/electric-vehicles/

He waffles a bit but he's an interesting chap.

He's a decent journalist but previously an engineer with a degree in mechanical engineering.

He's very good at sussing out bogus claims from manufacturers.

There's certainly loads of them
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JandS

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2023, 01:55:28 pm »
Regarding the fires statistics......most petrol/diesel car fires are by malicious ignition.....would imagine most EV fires are fault fires.
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Ggh

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2023, 02:16:05 pm »
Until they build one that has a 1400kg payload and has range of 300 miles, waste of time.
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AuRavelling79

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2023, 02:24:27 pm »
Regarding the fires statistics......most petrol/diesel car fires are by malicious ignition.....would imagine most EV fires are fault fires.

If you can find statistics differentiating between the two I'd really like to see it.

It's a game of three halves!

AuRavelling79

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2023, 02:25:39 pm »
Until they build one that has a 1400kg payload and has range of 300 miles, waste of time.

For you.

I'd be fine with one with 1000kg payload and a range of 150. It's the initial cost that puts me off.
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Soupy

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2023, 04:01:37 pm »
Until they build one that has a 1400kg payload and has range of 300 miles, waste of time.

For you.

I'd be fine with one with 1000kg payload and a range of 150. It's the initial cost that puts me off.

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Soupy

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They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

Soupy

  • Posts: 20573
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

Soupy

  • Posts: 20573
Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2023, 04:05:50 pm »
Sorry for the long links - on my phone.

The depreciation is crap so the second hand market is pretty good. There's bargains to be had.
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Soupy

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2023, 04:06:22 pm »
Until they build one that has a 1400kg payload and has range of 300 miles, waste of time.

1400kg payload? How big is your tank?
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Soupy

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2023, 04:08:50 pm »
As far as fires go, I've run two vans for 12 months, and one van for 18 months. Around 30k miles in total All carrying water, all abused by staff under 30.

No fires so far.
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AuRavelling79

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2023, 06:46:56 pm »
Seems prices are easing up a bit.
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Drake

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2023, 07:11:47 pm »
Transporter has a 82 mile range.
That's why nobody wants them.
You'd be lucky to get 60 miles per charge on 1 realistically.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Electric vans/vehicles
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2023, 08:52:01 pm »
Transporter has a 82 mile range.
That's why nobody wants them.
You'd be lucky to get 60 miles per charge on 1 realistically.

Funnily enough, even 60 miles true range would be enough for me for a day at work. I usually do less than 30 and almost never more than 40.

But I wouldn't want to have a vehicle with such a range.
It's a game of three halves!