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Shrek

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2023, 07:37:33 am »
The one thing that drives me mad about gutter vacuuming is when your poles get jammed together on a job and you can’t get them back in the van without breaking a few. I always keep them clean as I know grit in the joints can jam them together somehow. Yesterday I was vaccing a gutter over a kitchen extension so my poles were near enough horizontal, put them on the ground and 4 sections were jammed! Spent 20 minutes flushing them with a hosepipe, then drying each joint and finally twisting to get them apart. I have got multiple sections though that iv had to break on the job just to get them back in the van and cut down at home

Stoots

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2023, 07:38:35 am »
Can't you fit a side entry inlet over the original outlet ?

But if not then blank it wouldn't be too hard.

As for the inlet and hoses you can get them loads of places. Anderson trade do the 51mm inlet and hoses cheap.

The only worry I would have with buying a 3600w vac is it may start tripping people's rcd/fuses. 3000w is usually the limit for house electrics you might need a big genny.

I haven't looked into the poles

I've only got 44mm carbon push fit poles at the minute but I love them so light and easy to use compared to thr 51mm alloy I've had before. I'm going to see how I get on with them before looking at some 51mm carbon.

SB Cleaning

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2023, 07:46:29 am »
The one thing that drives me mad about gutter vacuuming is when your poles get jammed together on a job and you can’t get them back in the van without breaking a few. I always keep them clean as I know grit in the joints can jam them together somehow. Yesterday I was vaccing a gutter over a kitchen extension so my poles were near enough horizontal, put them on the ground and 4 sections were jammed! Spent 20 minutes flushing them with a hosepipe, then drying each joint and finally twisting to get them apart. I have got multiple sections though that iv had to break on the job just to get them back in the van and cut down at home
I have had the grippa poles jam together but never had aproblem with the gvs poles.

Shrek

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2023, 08:02:49 am »
The one thing that drives me mad about gutter vacuuming is when your poles get jammed together on a job and you can’t get them back in the van without breaking a few. I always keep them clean as I know grit in the joints can jam them together somehow. Yesterday I was vaccing a gutter over a kitchen extension so my poles were near enough horizontal, put them on the ground and 4 sections were jammed! Spent 20 minutes flushing them with a hosepipe, then drying each joint and finally twisting to get them apart. I have got multiple sections though that iv had to break on the job just to get them back in the van and cut down at home
I have had the grippa poles jam together but never had aproblem with the gvs poles.

Yeah my spinaclean poles jam all the time , I bought a new set last year and a pole snapped on the first job , not happy but they replaced it.

I’m really impressed with the strength of these gvs poles though, iv stood on one of my poles in the past by accident and it split straight away.

https://youtu.be/9ucGNgUe8x4

zesty

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2023, 09:37:02 am »
Can't you fit a side entry inlet over the original outlet ?

But if not then blank it wouldn't be too hard.

As for the inlet and hoses you can get them loads of places. Anderson trade do the 51mm inlet and hoses cheap.

The only worry I would have with buying a 3600w vac is it may start tripping people's rcd/fuses. 3000w is usually the limit for house electrics you might need a big genny.

I haven't looked into the poles

I've only got 44mm carbon push fit poles at the minute but I love them so light and easy to use compared to thr 51mm alloy I've had before. I'm going to see how I get on with them before looking at some 51mm carbon.


Should be ok as you can use just two of the motors, reducing power…

Not sure if you gab use the same port, don’t see why not…

Stoots

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2023, 11:03:19 am »
Just picked up a little genny for it all good to go

Smudger

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2023, 12:28:05 pm »
If you want a quality vacuum hose then go to Century hoses - you can get a 30 meter coil and cut into 2 - gives you a spare or extra length for any weird jobs.

50mm full carbon modular poles from carbon fibre tubes - these are 2meters each (min order 5) and as tough as old boots - modular but rarely stick together

Side entry will fit over the original - a little cutting required for the shape of the side entry - then just twist the drum in the holder so it points forward.

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience


Splash & dash

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2023, 08:01:57 pm »
We use GVS yellow hose it’s very good doesn’t hold much silt , resists kinking and is light weight and very robust as regards to damage

Smudger

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #49 on: July 02, 2023, 12:50:32 am »
Yes looks like the one

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

zesty

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #50 on: July 02, 2023, 07:07:11 am »
Yes looks like the one

Darran

And can you easily convert to side entry? Can’t see any screws in the port on the huyundai.


Smudger

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #51 on: July 02, 2023, 09:04:11 am »
Think they are on the inside - otherwise breakout off  ;D

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

zesty

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #52 on: July 02, 2023, 09:09:22 am »
Think they are on the inside - otherwise breakout off  ;D

Darran

Good good, just don’t want to buy it and end up wrecking the drum!

Stoots

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #53 on: July 02, 2023, 09:28:57 am »
I've just fitted my side Inlet

Tip : buy the one on ebay with a gasket and bolts it's 35 quid.

I thought I was being clever buying one from Anderson trade for 23 quid. Of course it didn't come with a gasket or bolts did it...

I had to make a template out of paper then use that to draw on the machine. I then couldn't find my tin snips so ended up using a angle grider and a metal file. Far too big for the job it was a right fiddle. Then I went to b and q for some bolts and of course could find the right size so had to buy some long ones and cut them down with a grinder. I've ended up using black silicone instead of a gasket as could find owt to use.

Over all about 2 hours longer than it needed to be. Get some tin  snips !

zesty

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2023, 09:46:23 am »
Sounds a faff,

I’ve asked gutter sucker if they will sell me a side entry port so I can use there clamped poles and hose.

Stoots

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #55 on: July 02, 2023, 10:31:55 am »
Sounds a faff,

I’ve asked gutter sucker if they will sell me a side entry port so I can use there clamped poles and hose.

Everything's a faff with the wrong tools and poor planning.

It would have been easy with the gasket kit. Draw round it , tin snips and drill some holes. I made a 20min job into 3 hours.

Are clamped a lot better than push fit? Do they stop them getting stuck or other benefit ?

I've used clamped alloy poles before I found them a faff  compared to my push fit but they were old and had to be tightened with bolts rather than  a lever.

Stoots

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2023, 10:45:46 am »
https://icmuk.co.uk/products/ipc-gs-3-78-oil/

I've just come across this. Same ipc vac but it's says oil ? Not sure what the difference would be guessing it's made to clean oil.. but it appears it has a side entry.

They are only 20 mins from me so I'll give  them a ring tomorrow and hopefully be able to go have a nosey they have some other ipc machines as well

Smudger

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2023, 11:04:40 am »
Nice Vac - What price ? - I would certainly consider one if it worked out just a couple of hundred ore than the Hyundai

They are for workshop use where you suck up cutting fluids etc, certainly good for gutter vac'ing

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Stoots

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2023, 11:36:47 am »
Nice Vac - What price ? - I would certainly consider one if it worked out just a couple of hundred ore than the Hyundai

They are for workshop use where you suck up cutting fluids etc, certainly good for gutter vac'ing

Darran

I'm not sure yet I need to ring them but I've seen the front entry one online for 550

If its that price range from a local company who can supply spares etc I think it makes more sense than the hyundai I shall find out .

zesty

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2023, 01:10:37 pm »
Is that a 3600 watt?

I think I’d prefer 3000w max so I can always use standard uk power supply’s.

Also, check it comes with all the right filters etc…



I’m thinking this one

https://spareandsquare.co.uk/products/ipc-gp-2-62-wet-and-dry-vacuum-cleaner-62-litre-2800w-240v?variant=44264507408634&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwISlBhD6ARIsAESAmp5YBMU0KSgY8v9AT9A2ra61I3mNQiIoY5pzKao2TxxAUiaUE_N2R44aAh1bEALw_wcB



Or the huyunadai…