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Smudger

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2023, 07:48:21 pm »
The old Omnivac - if only we could still get them....  :'(
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Splash & dash

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2023, 08:20:44 pm »
The old Omnivac - if only we could still get them....  :'(

That was my first professional gutter vac , I made a couple myself before buying the omnivac but that was a game changer I sold mine to a friend about 4 years ago and it’s still going strong original motors as well it’s done some serious work .

Splash & dash

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2023, 08:25:49 pm »
The old Omnivac - if only we could still get them....  :'(

That was my first professional gutter vac , I made a couple myself before buying the omnivac but that was a game changer I sold mine to a friend about 4 years ago and it’s still going strong original motors as well it’s done some serious work .

britishwill

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2023, 09:04:21 pm »
2 questions then.  For those that have used them.

Are the omnivac vacs  the best or is there a better make now?

Also question for Darren.do you loose suction on  60 meters of artic flex? Ie longer hose less suction?!

Splash & dash

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2023, 10:05:11 pm »
2 questions then.  For those that have used them.

Are the omnivac vacs  the best or is there a better make now?

Also question for Darren.do you loose suction on  60 meters of artic flex? Ie longer hose less suction?!



The modern vacs are better than the omnivac  we now have a Skyvac interceptor which is powered by a Honda petrol engine it’s an awesome thing will lift turfs out of gutters 55 feet high  no problem , we also have a couple of smaller mains electric ones for shop fronts and awkward access jobs ,.
As for hose ,length the longer the hose you will loose some suction we generally use 12-15 meter s and dint notice any drop but using 20 meters plus you do notice a difference., the longer hoses also tend to silt up much more and quicker and will need flushing with water more often , we don’t find long hoses are worth using as 15 meters in each direction if putting the vac in the middle of the building will give you 30 meters total working distance before you need to move it so that’s not an issue .

Smudger

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2023, 10:58:27 pm »
I cant comment on the interceptor other than it looks a beast

I use 3000 watt Hyundai vacs (£320) - and whiles it works well - esp with side entry fitted - I wonder if its just quite as good as the old Omnivac...

Other than industrial stuff it handles everything we ask of it

Normally we are like splash 15 meter hose - I honestly cant think of the last time we needed to add another section of suction hose

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Stoots

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2023, 07:54:37 am »
I was just considering whether to buy a hyundai 3000w and add a side entry or invest in something like the predator/skyvac etc but surely the named machines can't be worth over a grand more ? 


SB Cleaning

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2023, 07:55:43 am »
I like to know the gutters are cleared properly so I use a camera....I have missed plenty of stuff  before going by "feel"....I have a camera set up on another pole it takes  a few mins to check not doing so is just plain lazy  and i guarantee there's stuff being missed sometimes.

Learn to clear them properly and you won't miss stuff  ;D ;D

Darran
I clean them out properly as i use the camera to make sure.
You should call yourself "Odd Bodge" mate  ;D

Smudger

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2023, 12:07:42 pm »
Absolutely made 😆😆😆
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Smudger

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2023, 12:08:42 pm »
The Hyundai is 18 months old and going strong - take your pick
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Stoots

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2023, 06:08:32 pm »
My gutter sucker jnr burnt itself out so ive replaced it with this little yellow thing off ebay. 85 quid. Seems to have more power than the gutter sucker did....(its 1600w compared to the 1500w in the Jnr). Just goes to show how much profit they make by re badging simple wet/dry vacs.

Its just waiting a side entry inlet ive ordered then i will give it a bash on a job next week.

And yes i will be getting a bigger vac as well but interested to see how this performs.



SB Cleaning

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2023, 07:32:06 pm »
My gutter sucker jnr burnt itself out so ive replaced it with this little yellow thing off ebay. 85 quid. Seems to have more power than the gutter sucker did....(its 1600w compared to the 1500w in the Jnr). Just goes to show how much profit they make by re badging simple wet/dry vacs.

Its just waiting a side entry inlet ive ordered then i will give it a bash on a job next week.

And yes i will be getting a bigger vac as well but interested to see how this performs.



Your gonna be forever emptying that out if you get a big job that's heavily soiled  ;D

Shrek

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2023, 08:03:10 pm »
The good thing about small vacs is , yes you have to empty them more but they are easy to do so. My sky vac commercial is heavy as hell when full ( you don’t realise how much is in it once you get started). My sky vac atom fills up quicker but I’m not breaking my back trying to lift it up and empty it in the bin

Stoots

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2023, 03:37:28 pm »
My gutter sucker jnr burnt itself out so ive replaced it with this little yellow thing off ebay. 85 quid. Seems to have more power than the gutter sucker did....(its 1600w compared to the 1500w in the Jnr). Just goes to show how much profit they make by re badging simple wet/dry vacs.

Its just waiting a side entry inlet ive ordered then i will give it a bash on a job next week.

And yes i will be getting a bigger vac as well but interested to see how this performs.



Your gonna be forever emptying that out if you get a big job that's heavily soiled  ;D

im tempted to take the motor out and put it in the old vac which is a bit bigger drum but dont want to blow it up.


Stoots

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2023, 03:56:50 pm »
For anyone that may be interest in vacs ive been doing a lot of internet searching for a machine

It appears this

https://www.superclean-pw.co.uk/industrial-vacuum-cleaners/soteco-play-440m-wetdry-vacuum-cleaner/ £515

is exactly the same as the xline £691

https://www.xline-systems.co.uk/shop/xline-3500w-gutter-vacuum-triple-motor/

and this beauty (think im going to get this)

https://spareandsquare.co.uk/products/ipc-gs-3-78-wet-and-dry-vacuum-cleaner-78-litre-3600w-240v £538

looks to be the exact vac that is the gutter sucker expert £1086!

https://guttersuckerdirect.co.uk/product/guttersucker-expert-vacuum-only/

This looks to be the gutter sucker bandit

https://www.ipcworldwide.com/product/ys-245-wd/ but i cant find a price or a uk stockist

theres a few other ipc vacs that look great but again its finding a stockist that will be in the uk or ship
https://www.ipcworldwide.com/products/vacuum-cleaners/

you are welcome chaps

SB Cleaning

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2023, 06:46:55 pm »
The machine you put up comparing the gutter sucker is a 3600 w the gutter sucker is only 3300w...stick a side entry inlet on that it would be a beast ;D nice find.

Saying that I would still probably get the 3600w from gvs for 645 including hose and the decent inlet.

Stoots

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2023, 09:23:24 pm »
The machine you put up comparing the gutter sucker is a 3600 w the gutter sucker is only 3300w...stick a side entry inlet on that it would be a beast ;D nice find.

Saying that I would still probably get the 3600w from gvs for 645 including hose and the decent inlet.

It's the exact same machine, there's probably an error in the listing on one of the sites but its the exact same.

Zoom in on a picture of the gutter sucker expert back of the head and it says on the label IPC GS 3/78  ;)

And yes I've seen the gvs one at 650 but I reckon the vac will be inferior, these ipc vacs use amatek motors bet that has cheaper motors. Its the same as the kiam 3600w for £500 it will be a Chinese thing  like the maxblast on crack.

SB Cleaning

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2023, 10:28:12 pm »
The machine you put up comparing the gutter sucker is a 3600 w the gutter sucker is only 3300w...stick a side entry inlet on that it would be a beast ;D nice find.

Saying that I would still probably get the 3600w from gvs for 645 including hose and the decent inlet.

It's the exact same machine, there's probably an error in the listing on one of the sites but its the exact same.

Zoom in on a picture of the gutter sucker expert back of the head and it says on the label IPC GS 3/78  ;)

And yes I've seen the gvs one at 650 but I reckon the vac will be inferior, these ipc vacs use amatek motors bet that has cheaper motors. Its the same as the kiam 3600w for £500 it will be a Chinese thing  like the maxblast on crack.
Not sure what motors gvs use I have one of their 3000w machines ,had it 4 years now all motors still going strong.

Smudger

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2023, 10:48:49 pm »
IPC vac will be very credible - Amatek motors are excellent.

for the cost I use a cheap Chinese vac - they do the work last 2 years blow up - buy another for around the price of a single amatek motor

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

zesty

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Re: Does anyone make good money doing Gutters?
« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2023, 06:46:07 am »
But where can you source the correct poles and flexi hose for the IPC?

Also, do you just blank off the front entry port and fit a side entry?

I nearly bought the gutter sucker expert a few weeks ago but been put off by the price!


So just had a look again and thinking of getting that ipc vac, then the clamped pole set from gutter sucker, works out cheaper. Unless someone can recommend a pole set and hose from elsewhere? Also where to you source the side entry port?