[tlwcs]

Really?

how far did they get ?

Darran

I made a grovelling apology saying that I had only thought about continuity of a reliable service and could personally vouch for the guy. (I knew he was ok but that’s as far as it when)
She never perused it but there people out there who will take offence at their data being used. Snowflakes   

[tlwcs]

Good topic.
I’m 61 this year and have had a pension from 60. It’s only worth about a days earnings so I will always have to work.
My round is set up over 3 days at the moment but it’s taking me about  5 short days as I’m due full hip replacement surgery next Saturday. I will then take 6 to 8 weeks off for recovery. I know I will be itching to return to work. I will use this time to refine the work.

I hate the mundane nature of the work but it’s good over 3 days.
Taking money out of my savings to live for the next 8 weeks is crushing, I would rather be earning  it and not worrying about .
Have you thought about 1 or 2 days a week?
Tony

[dazmond]

I had no intentions of retiring really until this year when I hit 65. Knowing that I can retire on my next birthday (or sooner) seems to have sown a seed in my head that I really don’t want to do this any longer. I’m sat in the chair covered in salt stains, split hands and frozen feet in the winter working for people who retired in their fifties!
If I can survive financially I really only have one more winter in me.

Each to their own......personally if I'm still fit and active at 65 I'll carry on as long as possible as I won't want to  just survive financially...

I'll still want to go on luxury holidays abroad,drive a nice car,buy decent clothes and eat out at posh restaurants occasionally...

I'll have a big nest egg behind me by the time I'm 65 but window cleaning  is just so damn convenient for bringing in income for minimal hours that I can't see me retiring fully that early unless my health stops me

and there’s the French rioting because their pension age has been put up.
There is a reason people strive to retire. I have no intention of working ‘till I drop. In fifteen or sixteen years time you’ll probably change your mind Dazmond. Money isn’t everything. I certainly have no interest in blowing my savings on eating beans in a bath for seven grand that’s for sure 😂
There are two JW windies near me and both are wrecked from falls, both in their late sixties or early seventies, still working one has resorted to scuttling around on a mobility scooter on his days off.

Funny you should say that as I also know a window cleaner who is still going at 79.the other one fell off his ladders at 75 and has retired now as he's not too good.the fall did a lot of damage to his body.

I don't do any ladder work now at 51.

We ll see but I have no plans to retire fully unless I'm forced to....

[dazmond]

I don't work that hard day to day.

It's working full time and long hours that wears some people out as they age so they are forced to retire early...

Some people also hate their jobs that much they can't wait to retire!

I don't fit into any of these camps. I'm blessed to be able to have a great work/life balance and my health at the moment

Only ill health or injury will stop me from window cleaning.👍

[Slacky]

I'll still want to go on luxury holidays abroad

Daz, going on foreign holidays isnt luxury, they're just foreign holidays.

[NWH]

Most places you can spend 15-20k to get to are 💩 holes if you had to spend that to stay at the same standard in this country they wouldn’t exist for long they’d all go broke,when the weather is like it is at the moment here this is the best  country in the world.

[Splash & dash]

Most places you can spend 15-20k to get to are 💩 holes if you had to spend that to stay at the same standard in this country they wouldn’t exist for long they’d all go broke,when the weather is like it is at the moment here this is the country in the world.

15-20 k on a holiday ?? Ware are you going the moon ?? We regularly go to a lot of exotic places and have never spent anything like that not Evan on dive expeditions to truck , Palau, Galapagos,  , Maldives etc

[NWH]

Calilo in Greece have got an offer on at the moment lol.

[dazmond]

I'll still want to go on luxury holidays abroad

Daz, going on foreign holidays isnt luxury, they're just foreign holidays.

I usually stay in 5 star hotels with a spa so they are luxurious to me!😄

[Slacky]

I think 4/5 star hotels are nothing special these days. Most people from working class backgrounds can afford a Grand or a little more for a fortnight abroad which is what a 5* hotel around the Med/Middle East/Mexico costs these days.

[Dry Clean]

I don't work that hard day to day.

It's working full time and long hours that wears some people out as they age so they are forced to retire early...

Some people also hate their jobs that much they can't wait to retire!

I don't fit into any of these camps. I'm blessed to be able to have a great work/life balance and my health at the moment

Only ill health or injury will stop me from window cleaning.👍

Its not always about hating, very few people on their death beds will look back on their lives and wish they had worked more, I want to retire because there is a lot more to life than working but walking away from an income even when its the logical thing to do is hard, its always the same excuse will do it next year.

[Stoots]

I think 4/5 star hotels are nothing special these days. Most people from working class backgrounds can afford a Grand or a little more for a fortnight abroad which is what a 5* hotel around the Med/Middle East/Mexico costs these days.

Quickly becomes 5 or 6 grand with a family though including travel and spending  money etc. Not many working class people can afford that every year.

Luxury compared to a week in a 2 or 3 star hotel in benidorm which is more like the average working class foreign holiday

[Stoots]

I think most who claim they want to work forever are only saying that because its an inevitability for them, that life could be worse and so have accepted their fate and they will make the most of it.

But I'll bet not many if they won 10m on the lottery tomorrow would be thinking about working every again at least not in the manual labour sense.

[Slacky]

I think 4/5 star hotels are nothing special these days. Most people from working class backgrounds can afford a Grand or a little more for a fortnight abroad which is what a 5* hotel around the Med/Middle East/Mexico costs these days.

Quickly becomes 5 or 6 grand with a family though including travel and spending  money etc. Not many working class people can afford that every year.

Luxury compared to a week in a 2 or 3 star hotel in benidorm which is more like the average working class foreign holiday

But that still doesn't make those holidays luxury items.

A 2 or 3* star holiday in Benidorm is for the likes of Sun readers and coach potatoes who scrounge off the state. I saw one this morning outside a block of flats I do, sat on the path on the concrete in her dressing gown dragging on a fag. I bet she still goes away this year on a state funded foreign holiday.

[Stoots]

I think 4/5 star hotels are nothing special these days. Most people from working class backgrounds can afford a Grand or a little more for a fortnight abroad which is what a 5* hotel around the Med/Middle East/Mexico costs these days.

Quickly becomes 5 or 6 grand with a family though including travel and spending  money etc. Not many working class people can afford that every year.

Luxury compared to a week in a 2 or 3 star hotel in benidorm which is more like the average working class foreign holiday

But that still doesn't make those holidays luxury items.

A 2 or 3* star holiday in Benidorm is for the likes of Sun readers and coach potatoes who scrounge off the state. I saw one this morning outside a block of flats I do, sat on the path on the concrete in her dressing gown dragging on a fag. I bet she still goes away this year on a state funded foreign holiday.

Luxury is subjective surely.

Maldives to me in a 5 star hotel is luxury but i appreciate for some it may be dossing it.

[AuRavelling79]

Luxury isn't always necessary for a good holiday.

I've done Bali for 16 days in a 5 star lodge and I've canoed/camped for 5 days in Scotland or Wales. In between are weeks in the Canaries, (family flat self catering or air BnB) a cruise to the Caribbean or European City breaks.

Some of my favourite breaks are in our caravan or a few days in a Premier Inn hotel near a city or air BnB cottages.

I must say I'm wanting something at the higher end sooner rather than later - maybe a cruise or Canada. I had booked a week in Kyiv before Covid and a 'Special Military Operation' put a stop to it. Also Covid cancelled a fortnight cruise in the Adriatic too! 

[AuRavelling79]

I had no intentions of retiring really until this year when I hit 65. Knowing that I can retire on my next birthday (or sooner) seems to have sown a seed in my head that I really don’t want to do this any longer. I’m sat in the chair covered in salt stains, split hands and frozen feet in the winter working for people who retired in their fifties!
If I can survive financially I really only have one more winter in me.

Each to their own......personally if I'm still fit and active at 65 I'll carry on as long as possible as I won't want to  just survive financially...

I'll still want to go on luxury holidays abroad,drive a nice car,buy decent clothes and eat out at posh restaurants occasionally...

I'll have a big nest egg behind me by the time I'm 65 but window cleaning  is just so damn convenient for bringing in income for minimal hours that I can't see me retiring fully that early unless my health stops me

and there’s the French rioting because their pension age has been put up.
There is a reason people strive to retire. I have no intention of working ‘till I drop. In fifteen or sixteen years time you’ll probably change your mind Dazmond. Money isn’t everything. I certainly have no interest in blowing my savings on eating beans in a bath for seven grand that’s for sure 😂
There are two JW windies near me and both are wrecked from falls, both in their late sixties or early seventies, still working one has resorted to scuttling around on a mobility scooter on his days off.

Interesting you mentioned they were JW's and working late 60's/early 70's in poor physical health. I can make a guess why their religious beliefs might feed into this - did you have a reason for mentioning their religion?

[DJW]

I'll still want to go on luxury holidays abroad

Daz, going on foreign holidays isnt luxury, they're just foreign holidays.

I usually stay in 5 star hotels with a spa so they are luxurious to me!😄

We’ve got a Spar just down the road. Dirty Derrick runs it. Does a good deal on a four pack of baked beans.

[DJW]

I had no intentions of retiring really until this year when I hit 65. Knowing that I can retire on my next birthday (or sooner) seems to have sown a seed in my head that I really don’t want to do this any longer. I’m sat in the chair covered in salt stains, split hands and frozen feet in the winter working for people who retired in their fifties!
If I can survive financially I really only have one more winter in me.

Each to their own......personally if I'm still fit and active at 65 I'll carry on as long as possible as I won't want to  just survive financially...

I'll still want to go on luxury holidays abroad,drive a nice car,buy decent clothes and eat out at posh restaurants occasionally...

I'll have a big nest egg behind me by the time I'm 65 but window cleaning  is just so damn convenient for bringing in income for minimal hours that I can't see me retiring fully that early unless my health stops me

and there’s the French rioting because their pension age has been put up.
There is a reason people strive to retire. I have no intention of working ‘till I drop. In fifteen or sixteen years time you’ll probably change your mind Dazmond. Money isn’t everything. I certainly have no interest in blowing my savings on eating beans in a bath for seven grand that’s for sure 😂
There are two JW windies near me and both are wrecked from falls, both in their late sixties or early seventies, still working one has resorted to scuttling around on a mobility scooter on his days off.

Interesting you mentioned they were JW's and working late 60's/early 70's in poor physical health. I can make a guess why their religious beliefs might feed into this - did you have a reason for mentioning their religion?

No particular reason other than they were working together in the evening to spread the word so to speak. They even gave me a leaflet but thank god I’m an Atheist.
Nice chaps, have a good laugh with one when I see him.
Just both looked wrecked.

[Slacky]

I think 4/5 star hotels are nothing special these days. Most people from working class backgrounds can afford a Grand or a little more for a fortnight abroad which is what a 5* hotel around the Med/Middle East/Mexico costs these days.

Quickly becomes 5 or 6 grand with a family though including travel and spending  money etc. Not many working class people can afford that every year.

Luxury compared to a week in a 2 or 3 star hotel in benidorm which is more like the average working class foreign holiday

But that still doesn't make those holidays luxury items.

A 2 or 3* star holiday in Benidorm is for the likes of Sun readers and coach potatoes who scrounge off the state. I saw one this morning outside a block of flats I do, sat on the path on the concrete in her dressing gown dragging on a fag. I bet she still goes away this year on a state funded foreign holiday.

Luxury is subjective surely.

Maldives to me in a 5 star hotel is luxury but i appreciate for some it may be dossing it.

I'm sure the Maldives in a 2* hotel would be luxurious.