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Stoots

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2023, 10:00:49 am »
With stuff like  connys/fsg/gutters etc I think there's 3 prices.

1. A want to do it price.

If you want to do the job then just charge your normal hourly rate let's say this is £50 per hour.

2  I don't really want to do it but I'll do it at a decent price rate. Let's say this is £100 per hour.

3. I definitely don't want to do it wild horses couldn't drag me there nor could a go on yer missus..  but if you are off your nut daft I will. £200 per hour.

I was going  to say just say no but everyone has a  price.

dazmond

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2023, 12:28:54 pm »
With stuff like  connys/fsg/gutters etc I think there's 3 prices.

1. A want to do it price.

If you want to do the job then just charge your normal hourly rate let's say this is £50 per hour.

2  I don't really want to do it but I'll do it at a decent price rate. Let's say this is £100 per hour.

3. I definitely don't want to do it wild horses couldn't drag me there nor could a go on yer missus..  but if you are off your nut daft I will. £200 per hour.

I was going  to say just say no but everyone has a  price.

No they haven't.....I wouldn't do the job at ANY price!
price higher/work harder!

Stoots

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2023, 01:18:32 pm »
With stuff like  connys/fsg/gutters etc I think there's 3 prices.

1. A want to do it price.

If you want to do the job then just charge your normal hourly rate let's say this is £50 per hour.

2  I don't really want to do it but I'll do it at a decent price rate. Let's say this is £100 per hour.

3. I definitely don't want to do it wild horses couldn't drag me there nor could a go on yer missus..  but if you are off your nut daft I will. £200 per hour.

I was going  to say just say no but everyone has a  price.

No they haven't.....I wouldn't do the job at ANY price!

BS mate  :D

Everyone has a price.

Maybe not in every situation.  I mean I'd like to think I wouldnt massacre children for a few million quid but clean someones fsg don't talk daft 😅

dd

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2023, 03:41:08 pm »

  Hey Lee,
  i would be charging  4 pounds a metre for clearing the Gutters,   4 pounds a metre cleaning G/F/S,
  that's 80 metres of gutters full of moss, that's a good few hours work, constantly emptying your
  Guttervac & flushing out the the carbon/poles and hose when they get heavy & blocked, you need
to price these jobs well or it is simply not worth it for peanuts.
That translates to £640

james peters

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2023, 08:35:42 pm »
I do think some of you die hard window cleaners with a closed mind are missing a trick . I mean the ones who say no to this and that.
I have dipped my toe into soft washing, and pressure washing on a small scale , and have found it to be a nice change even a few times a month...
AND
far more lucrative than window cleaning
so .. I  look at it like this ...
window cleaning ... fantastic ... day in day out bread and butter......
add ons ....the cream

Smudger

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2023, 08:55:18 pm »
Your right

Our services cover every aspect of exterior cleaning -everything pays better than window licking - however windows does bring a safe regular income

It’s great trying new things - it’s a challenge for the old noggin

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

lal

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2023, 09:18:57 pm »

  Hey Lee,
  i would be charging  4 pounds a metre for clearing the Gutters,   4 pounds a metre cleaning G/F/S,
  that's 80 metres of gutters full of moss, that's a good few hours work, constantly emptying your
  Guttervac & flushing out the the carbon/poles and hose when they get heavy & blocked, you need
to price these jobs well or it is simply not worth it for peanuts.
That translates to £640

Well done, you've past the maths test with flying colours.  ;)

Stoots

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2023, 07:37:50 am »
I do think some of you die hard window cleaners with a closed mind are missing a trick . I mean the ones who say no to this and that.
I have dipped my toe into soft washing, and pressure washing on a small scale , and have found it to be a nice change even a few times a month...
AND
far more lucrative than window cleaning
so .. I  look at it like this ...
window cleaning ... fantastic ... day in day out bread and butter......
add ons ....the cream

Yes and no

I've tried domestic pressure washing a few years ago. Can't get the prices round here that would make it worthwhile. Houses are small and couldnt find anyone wanting to pay 400 quid plus for a days pressure washing. But in the right area absolutely, I know a guy 20 miles from me who's flat out everyday but he lives in an affluent area almost every house is a 5 bed detached plus. Similar story when ive offered gutters people want to pay 20 quid can't get decent prices....yet they will pay me 12 quid for 8 minutes window cleaning. That's why I ended up as windows only, been there and tried loads of things.

I'm thinking that way now though windows 3 days a week and find something else to do. Even if the money isn't any better a change is welcome.

I've just been on a spray painting course and looking to get into that.

dazmond

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2023, 08:31:03 am »
I do think some of you die hard window cleaners with a closed mind are missing a trick . I mean the ones who say no to this and that.
I have dipped my toe into soft washing, and pressure washing on a small scale , and have found it to be a nice change even a few times a month...
AND
far more lucrative than window cleaning
so .. I  look at it like this ...
window cleaning ... fantastic ... day in day out bread and butter......
add ons ....the cream

I'm not missing any trick.

I'm happy with my existing income

I don't want to work any more hours

🙂
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2023, 12:15:44 pm »
I'm already earning between £50-£100 an hour window cleaning.no need for me to buy a pressure washer and all the faff that entails....

I do clean the odd f/s/g/conny roof job with existing equipment but all it does is replace the income lost from window cleaning customers who skip cleans due to building work(or whatever)throughout the year.👍
price higher/work harder!

james peters

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2023, 05:33:31 pm »
I'm already earning between £50-£100 an hour window cleaning.no need for me to buy a pressure washer and all the faff that entails....

I do clean the odd f/s/g/conny roof job with existing equipment but all it does is replace the income lost from window cleaning customers who skip cleans due to building work(or whatever)throughout the year.👍

you have the equipment for soft washing of renderd walls daz
all you need is a back pack  and pole with fan jets and some chemical... then you would have more of those  hours you enjoy  at a £100 or more  for maybe 3 or 4 hours, with one payment on completion ( no waiting for small payments ) I dont see the faff in this ?

james peters

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2023, 09:11:45 pm »
I do think some of you die hard window cleaners with a closed mind are missing a trick . I mean the ones who say no to this and that.
I have dipped my toe into soft washing, and pressure washing on a small scale , and have found it to be a nice change even a few times a month...
AND
far more lucrative than window cleaning
so .. I  look at it like this ...
window cleaning ... fantastic ... day in day out bread and butter......
add ons ....the cream

I'm not missing any trick.

I'm happy with my existing income

I don't want to work any more hours

🙂

during covid nonsense ... we had our garden landscaped ... so about 70 square meters  of patio ... so i bought a pressure washer , ...
an electric one ... sthil , one of the top of the range ... I needed it for our patio and drive which is also about 50 square meters

forward on. a customer asked if i could do her drive and patio.  I was up to date with windows so I agreed a price and did it on a day that didnt affect my normal work.  knowing I only had a domestic machine , I did a pre hypo wash , and a after hypo treatment... the results were amazing. ....
from that first jobs profits I bought a petrol washer.... looking forward to the future .
my better half works most saturdays  as a dialisis nurse on a renal unit. so I plan to use these saturday mornings pressure washing .

NWH

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2023, 09:27:44 pm »
I'm already earning between £50-£100 an hour window cleaning.no need for me to buy a pressure washer and all the faff that entails....

I do clean the odd f/s/g/conny roof job with existing equipment but all it does is replace the income lost from window cleaning customers who skip cleans due to building work(or whatever)throughout the year.👍

you have the equipment for soft washing of renderd walls daz
all you need is a back pack  and pole with fan jets and some chemical... then you would have more of those  hours you enjoy  at a £100 or more  for maybe 3 or 4 hours, with one payment on completion ( no waiting for small payments ) I dont see the faff in this ?

It’s more of a faff though James if you have good window stuff turning up and cleaning a few windows is a lot easier than soft washing,and have people got softwashing jobs at the 100 an hour mark almost everyday of the week coz I know plenty that have that on the windows,just a thought.

Stoots

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2023, 12:04:28 am »
Is there anyone you don't know Nwh  :D

Smudger

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2023, 12:12:24 am »
only their supervisors...


who earn 50 bags a year LoL

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

james peters

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2023, 08:38:12 am »
I'm already earning between £50-£100 an hour window cleaning.no need for me to buy a pressure washer and all the faff that entails....

I do clean the odd f/s/g/conny roof job with existing equipment but all it does is replace the income lost from window cleaning customers who skip cleans due to building work(or whatever)throughout the year.👍

you have the equipment for soft washing of renderd walls daz
all you need is a back pack  and pole with fan jets and some chemical... then you would have more of those  hours you enjoy  at a £100 or more  for maybe 3 or 4 hours, with one payment on completion ( no waiting for small payments ) I dont see the faff in this ?

It’s more of a faff though James if you have good window stuff turning up and cleaning a few windows is a lot easier than soft washing,and have people got softwashing jobs at the 100 an hour mark almost everyday of the week coz I know plenty that have that on the windows,just a thought.

yes NWH... If you read my posts properly , you will understand better.
I have lots of windows to clean.... but when I get a gap in my schedule I like to do a softwash or a pressure wash.
Its a nice change and a nice top up.

james peters

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2023, 09:06:30 am »
At the moment my son works with me so I tend to be up to date with windows . so these add ons  fill the gaps ... when he goes to uni in september I will struggle to keep on top of things , although my daughters may help part time .

robbo333

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2023, 02:44:58 pm »
Why not just treat it as a very lazy day's work and go in with a day rate.
You've got to clean the windows anyway, so add a few little bits like the garage door and some bits of cladding or whatever.
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Stoots

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2023, 07:09:03 pm »
Im going to experiment with a "monster monday" tomorrow

470 quid of regular cleans (32 houses) plus a con roof and a fsg booked in. The fsg and con roof i dont normally do but i promised them ages ago when i had last guy working for me so now im reaping the rewards of taking on jobs i dont want to do anymore  ::)roll

Idea is if i can rattle off 500 quid of work i`ll be done by wednesday. 3 days a week is my aim from now on.

Bet i change my mind and come home early and dont get it all done though  :D it sounds a good idea sat on my sofa.

NWH

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Re: Pricing advice f/s/g
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2023, 07:30:34 pm »
⬆️ easily done with the right work but that won’t seem easy if your averaging 90 odd houses a week if they are small or medium sized properties.