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DaveG

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Agm leisure battery
« on: April 23, 2023, 10:24:33 am »
I seem to be mullering Leisure batteries lately, are the agm type better for the work we do?
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Stoots

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2023, 11:33:54 am »
Yes they are.

I used to go through a cheap leisure battery every year.

I have a yuasa agm one now not cheap though

Spruce

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2023, 12:29:45 pm »
Yes they are.

I used to go through a cheap leisure battery every year.

I have a yuasa agm one now not cheap though

How do you charge it?
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Splash & dash

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2023, 02:08:46 pm »
Yes we have them on our vans and find they last around 6 years but that’s with a programmable charger set for the specific needs of the battery’s and they are charged most nights

Smudger

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2023, 03:55:51 pm »
Yes we have them on our vans and find they last around 6 years but that’s with a programmable charger set for the specific needs of the battery’s and they are charged most nights

Is that from the mains - so no split charging ?

Darran
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matthewprice

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2023, 04:11:34 pm »
I am trying a lithium battery at the moment . Got 75 amp . Had to buy cetck lithium charger . Finding it great at the moment . Charges to 13.8 . Weight is so much lighter. And after a weeks work it still shows 12.9 . Only problem I have had is with the link controller. Didn’t turn off the battery safety setting . Lol

Splash & dash

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2023, 05:36:47 pm »
Yes we have them on our vans and find they last around 6 years but that’s with a programmable charger set for the specific needs of the battery’s and they are charged most nights

Is that from the mains - so no split charging ?

Darran


Yes , with my Renault master Renault when it was new said if we connected anything to the main vehicle electrics it would void the 4 year warranty, Evan a split charger so have always kept everything separate so no comebacks and just done the same with all our vans just in case .

Stoots

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2023, 06:35:44 pm »
Yes they are.

I used to go through a cheap leisure battery every year.

I have a yuasa agm one now not cheap though

How do you charge it?

Bench charge every day, did have a split relay briefly in my old van but not bothered in my new one since it needs a B2B type.

dazmond

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2023, 08:53:54 pm »
My numax leisure batteries usually last around 4 years before I need 2 new ones which is acceptable considering I use them for heating my water every day as well as powering my reel and pump.
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zesty

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2023, 09:11:32 pm »
I am trying a lithium battery at the moment . Got 75 amp . Had to buy cetck lithium charger . Finding it great at the moment . Charges to 13.8 . Weight is so much lighter. And after a weeks work it still shows 12.9 . Only problem I have had is with the link controller. Didn’t turn off the battery safety setting . Lol

Interesting, how often are you charging it?

Does seem like a good idea as you’ll get 100’s of more cycles out of it compared with a lead acid.

matthewprice

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2023, 09:18:16 pm »
So far once a week . Although I could leave it longer . Need to look into the link controller to make sure I have that right

matthewprice

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2023, 09:20:51 pm »
Battery only £350 . Plus £120 for charger . Went for more expensive charger as it has auto turn off . For safety . Some said problems charging in the cold . But if need be can charge inside . As lifting it is so easy now

zesty

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2023, 09:21:29 pm »
So far once a week . Although I could leave it longer . Need to look into the link controller to make sure I have that right

You mean the WFP link? If so, what do you mean? Surely that’s not got anything to do with charging the battery?

matthewprice

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2023, 09:25:15 pm »
Yes the WFP link controller Didn’t have battery protection turned off . So it turned everything off

zesty

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2023, 06:43:24 am »
Yes the WFP link controller Didn’t have battery protection turned off . So it turned everything off

What cos the voltage dropped below 10 odd volts?

The only thing that puts me off is cold weather charging, don’t really fancy bringing it in all winter to charge and then connecting everything back up in the morning!

If the battery is around 0c and under, you’ll have to bring it in, warm it up, then charge it which seems a bit faffy.

I do like the benefit of it lasting longer between charges though. There is defo some very enticing benefits to lithium!


matthewprice

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2023, 07:24:17 am »
First week I just wanted to see if I could take the battery lower think got to about 9 . Turned off every thing . Believe I should be able to go lower technically. . Although I don’t need to .

Spruce

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2023, 09:14:05 am »
First week I just wanted to see if I could take the battery lower think got to about 9 . Turned off every thing . Believe I should be able to go lower technically. . Although I don’t need to .

You will damage a lithium battery if you let the charge drop below 90% of its capacity, although some suppliers tell you that you can fully discharge them. So you should only use 67.5 amps of the 75 amps from your battery.

Again, recharging is another hot topic. Some suppliers do say that it is best to not recharge your lithium batteries above 80% charged, although Tesla say 90%.

It's just too complicated for me atm. I will stick with the old lead acid battery technology, as I know I can fully charge my 105amp overnight; only use 50 amps a day and recharge it every night.
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Smudger

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2023, 12:06:08 pm »
Cheers spruce

Same as you - getting too old for this new fangled technology- I will stick with the old stuff 😋

Darran
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DaveG

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2023, 12:57:30 pm »
Thanks for the replies everyone
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DaveG

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Re: Agm leisure battery
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2023, 12:59:01 pm »
My numax leisure batteries usually last around 4 years before I need 2 new ones which is acceptable considering I use them for heating my water every day as well as powering my reel and pump.

How often do you charge them Daz and what charger do you use?
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