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Smudger

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2023, 06:15:56 pm »
Yes every other year - this year will be a substantial rise and a minimum charge implemented

I fully expect to lose a few this time - but rather that than run on bare minimum

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

NBwcs

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2023, 06:25:11 pm »
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.

dazmond

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2023, 08:01:04 pm »
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.

Usually a quid or 2,some larger jobs a fiver.
price higher/work harder!

Splash & dash

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2023, 10:51:24 pm »
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.


3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut .

Smudger

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2023, 11:58:26 pm »
while its easy to say only a £1 - it really depends on what the work is and what's already being charged - it could easily be said of you your prices must have been far too cheap to allow rises like that and then again this year - BUT - I won't because I have no knowledge of the size/type property you are cleaning.

I have retirement homes - 2 windows at front 2 at the back - I do around a dozen - in reality they don't take much longer than a 4 bed detached (all 12) - couldn't justify £3 each rise

With the inflation rate/fuel/electricity to name but some of the stuff rising in price - window cleaning price rises are a must - but only for what you feel is right

Darran

Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

dazmond

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2023, 08:42:34 am »
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.


3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut .

Yes only a quid or two every 3 years or so....of course I'm not taking a huge pay cut! ;D

I've never had as much money as I do now and can easily pay my bills so I must be doing something right! :)
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2023, 08:45:56 am »
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.


3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut .

I would never ever put up prices every year and certainly not by £3 or more.i just couldn't rip off my customers like that because IMO that's what your doing! ;)

I prefer a much fairer pricing structure
price higher/work harder!

deeege

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2023, 09:02:07 am »
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.


3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut .

Yes only a quid or two every 3 years or so....of course I'm not taking a huge pay cut! ;D

I've never had as much money as I do now and can easily pay my bills so I must be doing something right! :)

If you only put a £20 job up by £2 in 3 years, you are taking a real terms pay cut on that particular job.

You know this Daz, because you have used and understood an inflation calculator in the past.

Whether you are earning more overall has nothing to do with the above.
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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2023, 11:51:09 am »
All depends what inflation is doing. At the moment it’s high but it won’t be this high forever. £3 rise every year on a £12 job is 25% rise first year. 2nd year it will be 20% rise etc
So way over the current inflation rate.
When it drops back to 2% will you only increase your prices in line with that?

NBwcs

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2023, 12:00:48 pm »
As Smudger says, without knowing the original price to which your adding your £3 to then its impossible to make a sweeping statement either way. £3  a year on a  £40 job, you could probably get away with, £3 on a £30 job you could probably use 10% inflation as a justified excuse this year, two year running might raise eyebrows, £3 on a £20 job two years on the trot and your pushing it, £3 on £10 job two years running and dont be surprised if you lose a lot of work. I've got in laws in Pompey who pay £12 and just had notification it's going upto £15,theyve said nothing but are actively looking for a new shiner, and that's without a price rise last year.

a900

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2023, 02:08:06 pm »
As Smudger says, without knowing the original price to which your adding your £3 to then its impossible to make a sweeping statement either way. £3  a year on a  £40 job, you could probably get away with, £3 on a £30 job you could probably use 10% inflation as a justified excuse this year, two year running might raise eyebrows, £3 on a £20 job two years on the trot and your pushing it, £3 on £10 job two years running and dont be surprised if you lose a lot of work. I've got in laws in Pompey who pay £12 and just had notification it's going upto £15,theyve said nothing but are actively looking for a new shiner, and that's without a price rise last year.

If we have price increases with other things in life like a boiler service or garage bill.  We sometimes think it might be more than I could pay elsewhere but the service or product is good. For me I would rather stick with someone providing good service or product.

Those are the sort of customers we want. We’ve had it before where people have asked us to leave it based on the price. Then they’ve got quotes and realised that’s the going rate.

I’m not concerned for loosing customers by putting the prices up 2 years in a row as it’s out of the norm to have this level of inflation and the customers I'm after appreciate that and know it’s not just them that faces it.

a900

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2023, 02:10:18 pm »
I'll be putting mine up again , put a lot up last year but everything keeps going up so why shouldn't window cleaning.

There may have never been a better time to put prices up, they are expecting it so don't disappoint them.

Looking forward to my mortgage payments going a couple of hundred quid a month this year so I'm sure they can manage a quid or 2 extra each to cover it.

I text all my price increases with text local via cleaner planner. Can do your entire round in minutes.

To answer the topic question. Speaking to text local I’ve discovered that they offer the service I’m after when you can upload an excel and create a message inserting the data from the excel file.

But I would be very interested if you have any more info on how it works within cleaner planner. Is there a help article on it. Or can you talk us through it?

Ascjim

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2023, 02:18:00 pm »
Yes it works within CP. You will also get a Text local discount.

dazmond

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2023, 04:53:39 pm »
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2023, 04:55:11 pm »
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.


3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut .

Yes only a quid or two every 3 years or so....of course I'm not taking a huge pay cut! ;D

I've never had as much money as I do now and can easily pay my bills so I must be doing something right! :)

If you only put a £20 job up by £2 in 3 years, you are taking a real terms pay cut on that particular job.

You know this Daz, because you have used and understood an inflation calculator in the past.

Whether you are earning more overall has nothing to do with the above.

I must be taking a pay cut then although it just never feels like it
price higher/work harder!

Splash & dash

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2023, 05:47:46 pm »
while its easy to say only a £1 - it really depends on what the work is and what's already being charged - it could easily be said of you your prices must have been far too cheap to allow rises like that and then again this year - BUT - I won't because I have no knowledge of the size/type property you are cleaning.

I have retirement homes - 2 windows at front 2 at the back - I do around a dozen - in reality they don't take much longer than a 4 bed detached (all 12) - couldn't justify £3 each rise

With the inflation rate/fuel/electricity to name but some of the stuff rising in price - window cleaning price rises are a must - but only for what you feel is right

Darran

I don’t want to be quoting prices on hear as it will be  taken the wrong way but all our work is very well priced and our lowest hourly rate  is considerably higher that a certain person on hear 😂😂😂😂 all our commercial work  pays well into three figures per hour per man  without busting a gut . I don’t see any point in increasing any job by £1 that is nothing theses days , maybe some areas are poor prices but we won’t work in those areas . I don't feel putting up a £15  by £3 is excessive, we don’t do much at this price  but didn’t have a single cancellation  , we can easily do 4-6 per hour at that rate  so it’s not bad money . It’s very easy for  well priced work to suddenly go to low priced work when you look at the economic climate at this time , so I feel there is a need to put up prices again this year , we have had several ask if we are putting them up again some jobs were only increased last august and they are expecting them to go up again , I would be a fool not to put them up , I know we are in a lucky situation with a shortage of good reliable cleaners here we don’t need any more work but it still keeps coming in so it’s priced very high if we get it it’s good if we don't not worried, then we will increase the lowest paying jobs by a higher figure  again if they cancel that’s fine , as we can afford to loose them but they haven’t been cancelling they have been happy with with the rises .

Splash & dash

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2023, 05:54:19 pm »
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....


We wouldn’t normally increase the price two years running , but with the cost of living going up like it is if we get left behind in two years time the increase  will need to be £10 , the feed back from customers is they are expecting and happy with another price rise , ware we are ones aren’t short of money they aren’t council house types and ime not being rude to ones in council houses just trying to say  that ones like that don’t have the money in the first place , our customers aren’t like that they are monied people,.

robbo333

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2023, 05:55:40 pm »
Last year, I put the prices up for some customers because, I either didn't really want the job or they were quite a bit underpriced.
This year I shall probably put up all the remaining customers 'just to break even'.
On the plus side, all the price increases last year were all ok and I've had quite a few customers say "I thought you'd be putting your prices up, because everything is going up" Naturally my reply is..."funny you should say that, you've just beaten me to it..."
I think many of my customers are expecting a price increase, many of them say "is it still £20?" as though they are expecting an increase.
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Splash & dash

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2023, 06:04:16 pm »
As Smudger says, without knowing the original price to which your adding your £3 to then its impossible to make a sweeping statement either way. £3  a year on a  £40 job, you could probably get away with, £3 on a £30 job you could probably use 10% inflation as a justified excuse this year, two year running might raise eyebrows, £3 on a £20 job two years on the trot and your pushing it, £3 on £10 job two years running and dont be surprised if you lose a lot of work. I've got in laws in Pompey who pay £12 and just had notification it's going upto £15,theyve said nothing but are actively looking for a new shiner, and that's without a price rise last year.

If I were going to increase a £40 job it would go up by a minimum of £5 -8  some £10
We don’t do any £10 jobs but when we did they went up to £13  .
£15 job  will be going up to £18-20 .
Out of well over 4,500 jobs increase we lost less than a hand full , I think sometimes we can be our worst enemy by not having the conference to put up prices to what they should be .
There is a window cleaner near me who earns £70 per day still doing 3 bed semis for £5 bloke is a fool but if he’s happy with that it’s up to him . He rarely picked up new work as ones openly say you cannot expect a decent job done for £5 so they won’t have him .

Slacky

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Re: Price increase text message
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2023, 06:24:57 pm »
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.