[tlwcs]

And the biggest joy of all, is that loop. No thanks. 😁

[Steven Biggs]

Loops never been an issue for me . Don’t know if it’s the pole hose we use .

[KS Cleaning]

Two reasons I won't use univalve is because it's on or off and no in between like a tap which is more controllable and the main reason is finish cleaning a window, then you got to lift the pole back up on the glass or lift off the glass to pull the pole hose to turn it off, ridiculous way of working 

Or you turn it off when the brush is on the window frame/sill at the bottom of the glass, no need to lift it off to pull the hose.

[dazmond]

Each to there own but the univalve is the best for me.ive been using them for years.no need for me to slow the flow down.if I want to use as little water as possible on a certain window I just work faster(eg splash and dash).😄

[Stoots]

I use a univalve but most of the time I dont bother tuning water on and off...only between sides of house not every window it's just an extra few seconds wasted. My water is cheap enough as not on a meter so I just whack it on full flow and use plenty.

The only annoyance with a univalve is accidentally turning it on when the hose gets trapped otherwise its far less faff than a tap.

[Ggh]

Like a little ball valve?

No. A quarter turn tap.

Got a link please?

[AuRavelling79]

I will stick with a univalve,  those taps are awful to use imo.

Can you adjust the flow infinitely with a univalve?

No need.

Imagine this scenario...

You are cleaning a front door in sub zero temperatures. You want to rinse the glass, but gently so not too much water flows. I turn the tap to just above a dribble and scrub.
Then I turn it up a little more ... the exact amount depending upon the size of the glass panel(s).

Very little water on the step, if any.

Job jobbed quickly and perfectly.

Rarely a need to trad. Rarely a need to 'buff' with microfibre. Rarely a need to sweep and/or salt.

And of course, the icing on the cake ...

No flow controller. 
 

For this scenario using the univalve, I just pull on the hose to turn water on for a few seconds to soak the glass panels, then I pull on the  hose to turn the water off, I then brush the glass panels with the water off, then a quick rinse.

Sounds good. However I can of course do the same with a flick of the tap OR run it at any speed from a dribble to full power. 

Can you readily use a univalve with a brush head that swivels?

When it is on or off is it instant or does the controller lag, especially at say 40' height.

I know I am moving away from icy conditions but genuine want to know questions.

[AuRavelling79]

And the biggest joy of all, is that loop. No thanks. 😁

What loop?

[AuRavelling79]

Each to there own but the univalve is the best for me.ive been using them for years.no need for me to slow the flow down.if I want to use as little water as possible on a certain window I just work faster(eg splash and dash).😄

Don't forget we are talking icy conditions. Think avoiding ice after washing quadruple patio doors onto concrete or resin drive.

[AuRavelling79]

Like a little ball valve?

No. A quarter turn tap.

Got a link please?

Like the tap in this holster.

https://purefreedom.co.uk/product/leather-belt-holster-for-pole-hose-tap-fittings/

[KS Cleaning]

I will stick with a univalve,  those taps are awful to use imo.

Can you adjust the flow infinitely with a univalve?

No need.

Imagine this scenario...

You are cleaning a front door in sub zero temperatures. You want to rinse the glass, but gently so not too much water flows. I turn the tap to just above a dribble and scrub.
Then I turn it up a little more ... the exact amount depending upon the size of the glass panel(s).

Very little water on the step, if any.

Job jobbed quickly and perfectly.

Rarely a need to trad. Rarely a need to 'buff' with microfibre. Rarely a need to sweep and/or salt.

And of course, the icing on the cake ...

No flow controller. 
 

For this scenario using the univalve, I just pull on the hose to turn water on for a few seconds to soak the glass panels, then I pull on the  hose to turn the water off, I then brush the glass panels with the water off, then a quick rinse.

Sounds good. However I can of course do the same with a flick of the tap OR run it at any speed from a dribble to full power. 

Can you readily use a univalve with a brush head that swivels?

When it is on or off is it instant or does the controller lag, especially at say 40' height.

I know I am moving away from icy conditions but genuine want to know questions.

I use a Univalve with swivel without any issues.
There is no lag with the pump kicking in, it’s instant water, but there is a little lag on the pump stopping when turning water off, although the water does turn off immediately.
Couldn’t comment on working at 40’ , highest I go is 30’ and there is no difference, the water is instant both on and off at that height.

[tlwcs]

And the biggest joy of all, is that loop. No thanks. 😁

What loop?

Really?
The excess pole hose that disappears when the pole is extended and catches on everything when the pole is collapsed.
I get the fact you enjoy using a tap and get the benefit of occasionally being able to restrict the flow, but for me there’s no joy in a tap
Tony

[Splash & dash]

Like a little ball valve?

No. A quarter turn tap.

Got a link please?

Like the tap in this holster.

https://purefreedom.co.uk/product/leather-belt-holster-for-pole-hose-tap-fittings/

Lol ,  those things went out of fashion years ago wet leg , gets caught on stuff I had one for less than a week and dumped it waste if time , we don’t use uni valves but yes at 40 feet there is no lag with them responding . We have approximately 30 poles and I found the univalve broke after a few months and sometimes took several pulls to turn on or off so didn’t replace it squeezing the pole hose is far easier and cannot go wrong , just our point of view some will love other methods but I feel kiss is the best approach .

[DJW]

Tap for me, always has been. Holster on the belt.
Yep the loop can be a pain at times. The hose and tap get wound onto the reel, never disconnect.
Couldn’t work with a univalve I don’t think, all that tugging away. I grew out of that.
Some on here need a tap on the head.

[Smudger]

Tap for me, always has been. Holster on the belt.
Yep the loop can be a pain at times. The hose and tap get wound onto the reel, never disconnect.
Couldn’t work with a univalve I don’t think, all that tugging away. I grew out of that.
Some on here need a tap on the head.

you want 2 taps ? one that pee's down your leg and the other on your head 

 

[robbo333]

I have neither a tap, nor hot water; damn, I'm buggered.
In icy conditions, I trad front doors and any windows near (and I mean near) the front door.
I'm always amazed how quick they get done, (sometimes I wonder if it's better trading them anyway?)
For me it's seconds either way.
I've used a tap before and the ability to alter the flow is very helpful indeed, but (icy conditions aside) I'm a constant, high flow, kind of guy; in and out fairly quick. 
I don't think the expense of hot water (for me) would outweigh the benefits, so I am going to pass on that one.
What is great, is that we have all these different ways of working to suit everybody's individual needs and if one thing doesn't work then something else probably will.
And yes...roll on the +degree weather! 

[AuRavelling79]

Tap for me, always has been. Holster on the belt.
Yep the loop can be a pain at times. The hose and tap get wound onto the reel, never disconnect.
Couldn’t work with a univalve I don’t think, all that tugging away. I grew out of that.
Some on here need a tap on the head.

Still don't get what the 'loop' issue is.

The hose and tap get wrapped round the reel.  Check.

I don't get a wet leg, why would I?

My everyday pole extends to 20ft and has 24ft of pole hose. If the pole is collapsed then any excess I need to lift  just sits on a hook I've made which is attached to my belt.

I can also put about 30m of reinforced pole hose on the hook before I walk from the van and then pay it out as I (eg) go round the back of a house. Then on the way back if there are obstacles and pinch points I do the same on the way back.

Where does other peoples' excess hose go? Not held in their hand or trailing on the floor, surely?

[DJW]

The loop for me is the excess pole hose from the tap to the brush when the pole is collapsed. Usually it’s trailed on the ground with the reel hose.

Wet leg? Rarely get that. Trim the hose with proper cutters and don’t strain the connections.

[james peters]

Having used a univalve and a tap, my preference is a tap.
my tap is between the gooseneck and brush, so I only benefit on saving water when the pole is collapsed.
I like that I can control the flow rate with a tap.

I had a week off during the cold patch. but I usually try to work if I can .
hot water from tap into tank , heater in van overnight, and start work around 10.30