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zesty

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Expenses
« on: December 05, 2022, 09:42:44 am »
How much are your yearly expenses now?

With the cost of everything so high, I’d expect we’re all now hovering around 6-7k easily.

It’s quite amazing to think how much is now spent on my business these days, given that window cleaning has historically been a very low expenses job.

Smudger

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2022, 12:39:34 pm »
7k a month is about right...

certainly up in the last few months mainly due to fuel costs

Darran
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dazmond

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2022, 03:43:18 pm »
Yep £6 -7k per year is average for me as a one man band and I'm only part time.....

Still beats driving around in an old car climbing ladders every day and collecting (and earning very little tbh).even though expenses are higher I earn far more than I did as a trad window cleaner and used to  work longer hours too!
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2022, 03:52:07 pm »
I earn over triple what I did as a trad window cleaner per year,less hours and safer to boot....

Expenses trad were around £2k per year so if I'm earning £30k+ more a year an extra £5k in expenses is not that bad at all....🙂
price higher/work harder!

tlwcs

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2022, 04:06:49 pm »
Mine were £12,200 with the van payment
About 25% of turnover

dd

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2022, 04:31:59 pm »
Main expense is running the van. As a sole trader expenses are not massively higher than they would be trad (I use a cold water system).

zesty

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2022, 04:50:41 pm »
Main expense is running the van. As a sole trader expenses are not massively higher than they would be trad (I use a cold water system).
You must only be around the 2k mark then, I’m cold water but the cost of WFP far succeeds trad…

I’m around the same as Daz.

Splash & dash

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2022, 05:12:03 pm »
Lol our diesel bill is around £400 per week I’ll let the mathematician s work that one out then there is all the other expenses wages ,vat , holiday pay  pensions , new poles etc water , insurances it’s a huge sum when you look at the total amount

deeege

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2022, 05:17:05 pm »
Main expense is running the van. As a sole trader expenses are not massively higher than they would be trad (I use a cold water system).
You must only be around the 2k mark then, I’m cold water but the cost of WFP far succeeds trad…

I’m around the same as Daz.

Unless you are going to work on a bicycle, I’d say expenses of £2k per year is impossible.

I’m around £8k per year and that’s with leasing a new van.
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DJW

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2022, 05:30:18 pm »
2k is ridiculous!
Fuel, insurances, van sevicing, poles, resin, water rates, clothing, electric etc.
Some companies would pay more than that on leaflets alone.

dazmond

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2022, 05:33:46 pm »
2k is ridiculous!
Fuel, insurances, van sevicing, poles, resin, water rates, clothing, electric etc.
Some companies would pay more than that on leaflets alone.

For most window cleaners I'd say they'd spend nearly £2k a year just on fuel before any other expenses these days!
price higher/work harder!

Ggh

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2022, 05:35:47 pm »
 ;D6k a week before any profit!

zesty

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2022, 07:31:43 pm »
2k is ridiculous!
Fuel, insurances, van sevicing, poles, resin, water rates, clothing, electric etc.
Some companies would pay more than that on leaflets alone.

He hasn’t said an amount, I’m guessing, but 2k when trad was about right for me. Though that was nearly 10 years ago for me.

Now it’s 6-7k easy with WFP and everything that goes with it.


tonyoliver

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2022, 10:55:57 am »
On the boot front you never wear boots I wear engelbert strauss  boots they have a tie cap and a sole liner I tried on a nail that went to one end and came out the other the liner deflected the nail ruined the boot but saved a trip to a and e boots are essential part of Ppe for the job drop a ladder on your toes the trainer isn’t going to do much  and offers no protection other than looking good 

Smudger

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2022, 11:00:37 am »
On the boot front you never wear boots I wear engelbert strauss  boots they have a tie cap and a sole liner I tried on a nail that went to one end and came out the other the liner deflected the nail ruined the boot but saved a trip to a and e boots are essential part of Ppe for the job drop a ladder on your toes the trainer isn’t going to do much  and offers no protection other than looking good

this on the wrong thread ?

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

tonyoliver

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2022, 02:00:33 pm »
Yes wrong thread

DJW

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2022, 02:13:02 pm »
Boot him off!

CleanClear

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2022, 03:13:48 pm »
Lol our diesel bill is around £400 per week I’ll let the mathematician s work that one out then there is all the other expenses wages ,vat , holiday pay  pensions , new poles etc water , insurances it’s a huge sum when you look at the total amount

VAT is not an expense is it ?
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Splash & dash

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2022, 03:43:10 pm »
Lol our diesel bill is around £400 per week I’ll let the mathematician s work that one out then there is all the other expenses wages ,vat , holiday pay  pensions , new poles etc water , insurances it’s a huge sum when you look at the total amount

VAT is not an expense is it ?


It is in my books as it has to be paid 😂😂😂😂

NWH

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Re: Expenses
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2022, 03:49:17 pm »
Yeah but you don’t pay it you just collect it lol it’s like I’ve got this really important job right I’m earning over 80 odd k aren’t I good,it’s like being given a better job title just to get you work a bit harder 🤣🤣.