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SB Cleaning

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2022, 08:06:05 pm »
Hello Stoots
Yes 250 litres a day or less

I’m very economical on my water usage
Uni valve and my xline brush has 11 pencil jets

I use large brush 14 inch is it🤔

My biggest day is 14 semi detached houses
Takes 6 hours

2 houses are just fronts
But 3  houses have flat roofs so up a ladder
1 of these has a large conservatory

This takes 10 barrels
Luckily this is road my parents live in and where my water setup is

So if I ran out of water can fill up on site 😄

I can always carry more barrels

My setup is very diy

Rectangle bucket with shurflo pump screwed inside short end a large bolt pops up through bucket floor,
acts as a barrier stops car battery 🔋 sliding along bucket and squashing pump

And an eBay power regulator switch to turn pump speed up and down

I do lift hose reel out of van and it’s connected to and pump box with pole hose that I shut under van door and lock

My parents road where pure water is has a school at top of the road so 3.15 to 4pm
The road is full of Chelsea tractors 🚜

My parents don’t have off street parking so
I’d have to fill up water before 3 or after 4 pm

I don’t have the flashiest equipment
So lose some speed there
But I think I’m quite quick

I’ve watched other wfp windies work
While I’m having a sandwich and I’ve thought there quite slow

But probably people think I’m a slow coach 💁🏻‍♂️

I take it all with a pinch of salt now

I’ve heard some outrageous claims on this
Site on how many houses have been cleaned in a day and how much waters been used, earnings etc

Maybe I’m a snail 🐌😂

It just sounds to me like you could make some improvements to your round/equipment to make life easier for yourself in the long run.

For example I cleaned 24 houses today 8 till 2pm and used about 500l of water. That's not to brag at all but it's a fairly normal day for me so just to show what can be done. 250l and 14 houses seems painfully slow for 6 hours. Again that's not to knock you nothing wrong with taking your time that's your perogative but what if you did have the latest gear such as high mod poles and electric reels maybe you would be able to get through works faster.

Things such as climbing on flat roofs would be a no no for me too time consuming.
Maybe invest in equipment and invest in gaining new work to compact your round and get rid of jobs that slow you down.

Just sounds like you are struggling, 14 houses and not home till 5pm sounds not very enjoyable at all  :'(

Is there any reason you can't start before 9:30 ? I would be aiming to finish before 3 to fill your water up before the school run...
Depends what he's being paid for the 14 houses,  he might be earning more than you  even though you splashed and dashed 24.

zesty

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2022, 08:44:49 pm »
I work 7:30 to midday these days, sometimes it’ll stretch to 2pm if I do a gutter clear or whatever after the round.

Took a few years to refine the round, but boy is it nice to be back for the afternoon. Especially as I’m renovating the house. Time is precious.

My neighbours don’t understand, they can’t believe how I earn a living on such short hours. Window cleaning is a funny one, it’s like no other job!

If you’re happy with those hours, crack on, but it may help to start early and aim to be home for 3pm…

No right or wrong, as long as you’re not finding the job stressful and un enjoyable.

lee_dewing

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2022, 08:57:49 pm »
Hello Stoots

So: 24 houses today 8 till 2pm

That’s 24houses/6 hrs= 4 houses an hour

15 minutes per house
Was that driving to different roads Stoots or were they all in the same road?

Maybe I can’t do it because I don’t believe it can be done.

Bit like the 3 minute mile
No one believed it could be done

Until Roger Bannister did 🏃🏻‍♂️
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Stoots

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2022, 09:17:43 pm »
Hello Stoots

So: 24 houses today 8 till 2pm

That’s 24houses/6 hrs= 4 houses an hour

15 minutes per house
Was that driving to different roads Stoots or were they all in the same road?

Maybe I can’t do it because I don’t believe it can be done.

Bit like the 3 minute mile
No one believed it could be done

Until Roger Bannister did 🏃🏻‍♂️

Quite compact today. 1 house then move van. I'd say on average 1 to 2 mins between jobs. Mostly semis with a few detacheds. I'd say an average semi takes me 10 mins to clean so with pack away time and move the van 4 maybe 5 an hour is do able.

Smudger

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2022, 10:40:16 pm »
Lee - I wouldn't worry about what other people do or don't do - you need only worry about yourself and your rate.

I have found the guys with a lower rate are not usually slower on the glass - its all the other bits that drag them down - faffing when parking extra trips to the van getting bits and bobs of the next clean card - poor hose practices - ie more tangles etc..

without being rude - you come across as a bit of a worrier/overthinker - in this game you are alone - there is no set standard to quality/pace etc..

if your worried about pace look at the off glass times

But an earlier start in the morning would be my priority

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

zesty

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2022, 07:24:22 am »
Hello Stoots

So: 24 houses today 8 till 2pm

That’s 24houses/6 hrs= 4 houses an hour

15 minutes per house
Was that driving to different roads Stoots or were they all in the same road?

Maybe I can’t do it because I don’t believe it can be done.

Bit like the 3 minute mile
No one believed it could be done

Until Roger Bannister did 🏃🏻‍♂️

Quite compact today. 1 house then move van. I'd say on average 1 to 2 mins between jobs. Mostly semis with a few detacheds. I'd say an average semi takes me 10 mins to clean so with pack away time and move the van 4 maybe 5 an hour is do able.

I have a really unusual round, in which I usually move the van  every couple of houses, perhaps only a few hundred meters, but i rarely have more than 3 houses all within reach.

I decided to to only really take on bigger houses (not always) but good priced work. I quite like the little journeys between jobs. Granted, it is a waste of time. Gives the body a short rest and a sip of water though.

I only clean around 8-10 houses a day now. That’s the advantage of years of refining.

How do you find cleaning that many houses stoots?



NWH

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2022, 07:55:01 am »
⬆️ I agree I do much the same only a small amount of jobs per day 6-10 on average,it should get easier if like you say you keep refining the trouble is people are lazy and don’t so it’s not possible or you’re a liar.

dazmond

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2022, 08:09:07 am »
I work 7:30 to midday these days, sometimes it’ll stretch to 2pm if I do a gutter clear or whatever after the round.

Took a few years to refine the round, but boy is it nice to be back for the afternoon. Especially as I’m renovating the house. Time is precious.

My neighbours don’t understand, they can’t believe how I earn a living on such short hours. Window cleaning is a funny one, it’s like no other job!

If you’re happy with those hours, crack on, but it may help to start early and aim to be home for 3pm…

No right or wrong, as long as you’re not finding the job stressful and un enjoyable.

It's amazing how many window cleaners that have been going for many years are still busting a gut working long days..... ;D

Each to their own.... ;)

Im actually more productive working short days and part time hours week after week.i don't tend to suffer with burn out and i don't get too fed up with cleaning and enjoy my day to day life a lot more. 8)
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2022, 08:17:38 am »
16 houses pencilled in for today,20 for tomorrow and another 16 on Friday.most are compact estate houses this week.each day I'll complete these jobs in 5 hours.no problem. :)
price higher/work harder!

DJW

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2022, 08:27:36 am »
I never count them.
Work nine till three thirty then knock it on the head.
I’m not that anal about windowcleaning.
My favourite property is always the last one.

Stoots

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2022, 09:53:36 am »
I don't care how many houses anyone cleans or if they earn more or less money. Just trying to help him maybe speed is something he can look at, maybe not, take it or leave it.

Another thought Lee what about getting a bigger van with a high payload ? There's some vans that can carry 1.5 ton plus. If you are only using 250l a day you could just fill a big van up once at the weekend and have it last you all week. An investment maybe but if its cuts 2 or 3 hours off each workday.


vistech

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2022, 04:49:46 pm »
I live in a flat and clean five flats in my block neighbours just post money through door, and five in next block bank transfer no problem at all don't even move motor

AuRavelling79

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2022, 05:58:35 pm »
I don't care how many houses anyone cleans or if they earn more or less money. Just trying to help him maybe speed is something he can look at, maybe not, take it or leave it.

Another thought Lee what about getting a bigger van with a high payload ? There's some vans that can carry 1.5 ton plus. If you are only using 250l a day you could just fill a big van up once at the weekend and have it last you all week. An investment maybe but if its cuts 2 or 3 hours off each workday.

Makes a lot of sense that.

I think dropping the barrels for a tank is deffo the way forward. I've done trad., trolley from an estate car with barrels. A 200L tank on a trailer plus barrels. It took me 18 months from going wfp to bite the bullet and buy a new (Doblo) van with a 400L tank. It transformed my day back then (2006) and took me from a £150 a day feeling tired to £200 a day in 6 hours instantly.

For context in 2004 I would do about £100 a day trad. With barrels etc. I got to about £150 in 2005 and getting the van in 2006 it was unusual NOT to do £200.

It's a game of three halves!

NWH

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2022, 07:06:09 pm »
The first thing I would say to someone is are you pretty sure you’ll be doing this seriously if so get as new van as you can with system as big as you can.

dazmond

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2022, 07:27:39 pm »
I never count them.
Work nine till three thirty then knock it on the head.
I’m not that anal about windowcleaning.
My favourite property is always the last one.

Don't you have worksheets or a schedule?I love being organised and having a set amount of work to do.all my weeks work is on my phone(cleaner planner).... ;D

price higher/work harder!

DJW

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2022, 07:47:22 pm »
Nope, never have a worksheet, never count jobs. Most of my work is from memory although I use CP mainly for accounting.
Hate routine and never set goals.
The only routine I stick to is getting regular nights sleep and never work past 3.30
Rarely clean houses in the same order as it becomes boring and monotonous.

NWH

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2022, 07:57:34 pm »
Daz if I had to guess you were born in December.organising your work like you do,I should know I’ve lived with one for over half my life known her for longer 🤣🤣.

Gringo

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2022, 07:52:04 am »
Was Dazmondos birthday earlier in Nov, don't know if you heard but he went to Maldives, then had that massive tub of beans in jacuzzi :o

dazmond

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2022, 08:09:03 am »
Nope, never have a worksheet, never count jobs. Most of my work is from memory although I use CP mainly for accounting.
Hate routine and never set goals.
The only routine I stick to is getting regular nights sleep and never work past 3.30
Rarely clean houses in the same order as it becomes boring and monotonous.

I love routine.....its comfortable!😄
price higher/work harder!

DJW

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Re: Cleaning neighbours
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2022, 08:51:26 am »
Sound like my Mrs.
Same food for breakfast every morning whilst watching the same news channel at the same time. Watch the same tv prog, the same reality shows in the same jungle with the same format at the same time of the year, go to work and do the same job every day.
I’m the opposite of that 😀
Probably why I hate Christmas so much!