[NWH]

That’s impossible and it can’t be done don’t you know hose only comes in 100 meter lengths lol🤣,you’re a liar.

[Splash & dash]

That’s impossible and it can’t be done don’t you know hose only comes in 100 meter lengths lol🤣,you’re a liar.

You haven’t got a clue Nigel you dont know our set up we have 100 meters of microbore and 30 meters of pole hose on each reel have a look at the pictures 😂😂😂 and just for the record you can buy microbore in 150 meter lengths, or at least you used to be able to , as I have had it years ago think it was daqua that sold it like that .

[Splash & dash]

And hear is a couple more vans with the same set up  😂😂😂😂😂

[NWH]

M8 I thought you knew my sense of humour of course you can have more hose Jesus 🤣🤣💤

[Bungle]

Rumbled again Nigel 

[NWH]

Ooh allo again bungle lol yeah do you know I’ve never done or thought about joining a bit of hose together 🤣🤣

[NWH]

Let’s get ready to rumble let’s get ready to rummmble lol.

[Richard iSparkle]

Everytime I dabble into this I get reminded why I always end up working back on my own.

About a month ago I decided I would like to get a part timer to help as getting a bit bored on my own

Anyway 2 weeks ago I took a lad on a trial day, seemed OK so agreed to give him a month trial. Then the 2nd day he messaged me saying he was sick so we re arranged for the following week. Next week and came and his car had broken down so he couldn't get here.

I binned him off and advertised again not a good start.

Spoke to a lad last week and arranged Friday of last week to do a trial day. Last minute he said he had forgot he had an appointment booked and could we do Monday (today). Wasnt too bothered about that as I don't like working Fridays anyway and was only doing it for him.

So last night I spoke to him checked everything was ok, all good to go.

He's supposed to be meeting me at 8am this morning and 5 mins ago I get the message "can we arrange for another day I've been in hospital all night".

Now of course this could true but I don't have the patience and it's really not a good sign.

Wonder how long before i give up on the idea again 

i wonder how you are recruiting them to start off with?

i advertise, then phone screen the ones i'm interested in, then interview face to face, then offer a work trial, check references, then offer a job at the end of all that..

i'll usually have 2 or 3 to choose from after the full  interviews, and they have to be pretty committed to get to that stage.

lots will never respond to the phone call right at the start, and some will be no show for the interview or work trial.

until i've offered them a job i'm still advertising too.

it sounds like your selection process might be too short so you're getting people who aren't really that keen

PS and they're paid at the end of the month too, so that rules out people who aren't that bothered

[Smudger]

I think you are right Richard - I get the impression that the op gets the first lad he sees down the pub - shoves a pole in his hand and expects a fully dedicated worker 

[jo5hm4n]

Richard is bang on the money here.

Selection process makes a huge difference.  We do the same.  We might get 20-50 Applicants for a job, whittle this down to say 5-10 applicants for a phone call, followed by booking face to face interview.  Interview has leading questions that helps us to make a judgement on their character which most of the time works too be honest.  From that stage we then pick a top 3 list who we would choose, then give one of them a trial for a week, and review.


Top tip - Any CVs you get where they have a different job each year or can't hold down a job for more than 3 years is a very bad sign.  In most cases we pick candidates who stick with a job for more than 5 years unless they have a good reason why they had to leave the job.

The CV Alone gives you enough data to make an informed decision about whether or not they are even compatible for the job on offer.

Its a shame that we have to be so analytical and judgemental, but if you want an employee to actually last and not keep wasting your own time and money and effort, you need to invest more into the selection process.

[Smudger]

Richard is bang on the money here.

Selection process makes a huge difference.  We do the same.  We might get 20-50 Applicants for a job, whittle this down to say 5-10 applicants for a phone call, followed by booking face to face interview.  Interview has leading questions that helps us to make a judgement on their character which most of the time works too be honest.  From that stage we then pick a top 3 list who we would choose, then give one of them a trial for a week, and review.


Top tip - Any CVs you get where they have a different job each year or can't hold down a job for more than 3 years is a very bad sign.  In most cases we pick candidates who stick with a job for more than 5 years unless they have a good reason why they had to leave the job.

The CV Alone gives you enough data to make an informed decision about whether or not they are even compatible for the job on offer.

Its a shame that we have to be so analytical and judgemental, but if you want an employee to actually last and not keep wasting your own time and money and effort, you need to invest more into the selection process.

This is Key - flakey work history is a BIG indicator that they won't stick it or be reliable - added to this we ask for a covering letter - a few lines about themselves and why they are looking for a job - if they don't include this with the CV  they are dumped before going any further

Darran

[Ggh]

Employing this year has been hell. So many time wasters.

[NWH]

You need someone that does a top job as well as all the other factors mentioned forget everything if they are useless at the job some people just can’t or haven’t got the dexterity with the pole,yeah I’ve done the job mate I really know what I’m doing say clean that then only to be made to lol.
If you think someone should be able to go out and do the job to a payable standard on their own with a few weeks months be prepared to lose work,it takes time,I’ve got someone that’s been at for 3 years pole only not traditional I’ve had to buy a 5,10” cheese grater to take his edges off.

[G Griffin]

Everytime I dabble into this I get reminded why I always end up working back on my own.

About a month ago I decided I would like to get a part timer to help as getting a bit bored on my own

Anyway 2 weeks ago I took a lad on a trial day, seemed OK so agreed to give him a month trial. Then the 2nd day he messaged me saying he was sick so we re arranged for the following week. Next week and came and his car had broken down so he couldn't get here.

I binned him off and advertised again not a good start.

Spoke to a lad last week and arranged Friday of last week to do a trial day. Last minute he said he had forgot he had an appointment booked and could we do Monday (today). Wasnt too bothered about that as I don't like working Fridays anyway and was only doing it for him.

So last night I spoke to him checked everything was ok, all good to go.

He's supposed to be meeting me at 8am this morning and 5 mins ago I get the message "can we arrange for another day I've been in hospital all night".

Now of course this could true but I don't have the patience and it's really not a good sign.

Wonder how long before i give up on the idea again 

You employ because you are bored working on your own?
Is that a good enough reason for employing?

[Smudger]

Everytime I dabble into this I get reminded why I always end up working back on my own.

About a month ago I decided I would like to get a part timer to help as getting a bit bored on my own

Anyway 2 weeks ago I took a lad on a trial day, seemed OK so agreed to give him a month trial. Then the 2nd day he messaged me saying he was sick so we re arranged for the following week. Next week and came and his car had broken down so he couldn't get here.

I binned him off and advertised again not a good start.

Spoke to a lad last week and arranged Friday of last week to do a trial day. Last minute he said he had forgot he had an appointment booked and could we do Monday (today). Wasnt too bothered about that as I don't like working Fridays anyway and was only doing it for him.

So last night I spoke to him checked everything was ok, all good to go.

He's supposed to be meeting me at 8am this morning and 5 mins ago I get the message "can we arrange for another day I've been in hospital all night".

Now of course this could true but I don't have the patience and it's really not a good sign.

Wonder how long before i give up on the idea again 

You employ because you are bored working on your own?
Is that a good enough reason for employing?

No it isn’t

[Stoots]

Everytime I dabble into this I get reminded why I always end up working back on my own.

About a month ago I decided I would like to get a part timer to help as getting a bit bored on my own

Anyway 2 weeks ago I took a lad on a trial day, seemed OK so agreed to give him a month trial. Then the 2nd day he messaged me saying he was sick so we re arranged for the following week. Next week and came and his car had broken down so he couldn't get here.

I binned him off and advertised again not a good start.

Spoke to a lad last week and arranged Friday of last week to do a trial day. Last minute he said he had forgot he had an appointment booked and could we do Monday (today). Wasnt too bothered about that as I don't like working Fridays anyway and was only doing it for him.

So last night I spoke to him checked everything was ok, all good to go.

He's supposed to be meeting me at 8am this morning and 5 mins ago I get the message "can we arrange for another day I've been in hospital all night".

Now of course this could true but I don't have the patience and it's really not a good sign.

Wonder how long before i give up on the idea again 

You employ because you are bored working on your own?
Is that a good enough reason for employing?

No it isn’t

Bold statement.

If someone is bored working alone and finds having company good for their enjoyment of the job and mental health then to them it's a good enough reason.

If its a good enough reason for you or anyone else is completely irrelevant.

[Smudger]

No - its not a good enough reason to employ - the reasons why are long and varied - but the short answer is employing some one so you have a bit of company will result - as you have found out getting  poor workers - and worse poor management

Darran

[Splash & dash]

No - its not a good enough reason to employ - the reasons why are long and varied - but the short answer is employing some one so you have a bit of company will result - as you have found out getting  poor workers - and worse poor management

Darran

And to much time drinking tea in the van and not working 😂😂😂😂

[Smudger]

Sounds more like he needs a therapist rather than an employee...

 

[Splash & dash]

Sounds more like he needs a therapist rather than an employee...

 

😂😂