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NWH

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2022, 10:15:19 pm »
Actually no you don’t have to pay Vat when you have a rich wife no why would I need to go up and over Vat limits and worry about the stress that goes with it,when you love what you do every day you’ll never work a day in you’re life 👍.
Now is it a 4x4 or an R8 come on I need help in deciding what to do,the 3rd option  is to get rid of the 14 year old van 😂

You work full time, you claim to earn £400-£500+ daily when working alone, you now have had a worker with you for 7 months and you still have not passed the Vat threshold. Something isn’t adding up here Nigel…..

I know a fisherman he once told me that once you’ve got you’re bait right you’ll find all the fish start biting at once,he said they normally bite in 3s 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Slacky

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2022, 10:29:59 pm »
Is that the same fisherman who used to say it’s the fishermen with small maggots who play the baiting game?

NWH

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2022, 10:47:17 pm »
No it was Chris Packham that told me a bird in the hand is worth more than 2 ugly ones in the bush lol.

DJW

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2022, 10:50:38 pm »
More like the windowcleaner who goes to bed with problem in hand and wakes up with solution on chest I think.

NWH

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2022, 11:12:37 pm »
I’d be more than happy with that by reaching my chest I can remember the days when it would fly over my shoulder like a shaken up can of coke 🤣.

SB Cleaning

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2022, 07:18:08 am »
Actually no you don’t have to pay Vat when you have a rich wife no why would I need to go up and over Vat limits and worry about the stress that goes with it,when you love what you do every day you’ll never work a day in you’re life 👍.
Now is it a 4x4 or an R8 come on I need help in deciding what to do,the 3rd option  is to get rid of the 14 year old van 😂

You work full time, you claim to earn £400-£500+ daily when working alone, you now have had a worker with you for 7 months and you still have not passed the Vat threshold. Something isn’t adding up here Nigel…..

I know a fisherman he once told me that once you’ve got you’re bait right you’ll find all the fish start biting at once,he said they normally bite in 3s 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
So you have spun us a load of bull$hit and now your trying to get out of it with a childish post like that ;D

NWH

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2022, 07:29:27 am »
No m8

deeege

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2022, 07:40:06 am »
Log off Nigel, you’re an embarrassment.
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

NWH

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2022, 07:45:08 am »
Up early for this one m8 lol.

Stoots

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2022, 11:43:19 am »
I must be one of the minority that like nigels posts. Absoloute crackpot  ;D

NWH

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2022, 12:02:36 pm »
😘

Mike Burd

Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2022, 12:15:01 pm »
You use the expression lad a lot if you employ lads you will have this sort of problem, you need reliable men most lads will have been out on the beer all weekend , I have no idea what you are offering pay wise but suspect this could also be a reason why theses ones are so unreliable, I have 5 full time staff and 4 others that I can call on to help out and I never get this situation, but they are paid  well and are men not lads the modern day younger generally doesn’t understand the ethos of work .
Do your guys do about 40 houses a day each?

Splash & dash

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2022, 12:32:47 pm »
You use the expression lad a lot if you employ lads you will have this sort of problem, you need reliable men most lads will have been out on the beer all weekend , I have no idea what you are offering pay wise but suspect this could also be a reason why theses ones are so unreliable, I have 5 full time staff and 4 others that I can call on to help out and I never get this situation, but they are paid  well and are men not lads the modern day younger generally doesn’t understand the ethos of work .
Do your guys do about 40 houses a day each?

If it’s estate houses one after the other then up to 48-55 but some are fronts only , some days it’s considerably less if big manor houses  some days it’s commercial only .

NWH

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2022, 01:16:44 pm »
Blimey 8 Weekly no wonder I get told I’m full of bu**poop on here 40 houses lol,I can’t remember the last day we did over 10.

DJW

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2022, 01:46:49 pm »
Nearly seven houses an hour for eight hours with no lunch break. That’s going some.

dazmond

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2022, 04:13:32 pm »
Everytime I dabble into this I get reminded why I always end up working back on my own.

About a month ago I decided I would like to get a part timer to help as getting a bit bored on my own

Anyway 2 weeks ago I took a lad on a trial day, seemed OK so agreed to give him a month trial. Then the 2nd day he messaged me saying he was sick so we re arranged for the following week. Next week and came and his car had broken down so he couldn't get here.

I binned him off and advertised again not a good start.

Spoke to a lad last week and arranged Friday of last week to do a trial day. Last minute he said he had forgot he had an appointment booked and could we do Monday (today). Wasnt too bothered about that as I don't like working Fridays anyway and was only doing it for him.

So last night I spoke to him checked everything was ok, all good to go.

He's supposed to be meeting me at 8am this morning and 5 mins ago I get the message "can we arrange for another day I've been in hospital all night".

Now of course this could true but I don't have the patience and it's really not a good sign.

Wonder how long before i give up on the idea again  ;D

you probably need to go through at least 10 lads to find a decent one.....then when you ve trained him up and got him working how you want him to work he ll catch on how much money your making out of him (after a year or two if your lucky!)then he ll leave you in the lurch and you ll have to start all over again.

it really isnt worth the faff and the hassle in my experience...... ::)roll

but good luck anyway Adam.... :)
price higher/work harder!

Mike Burd

Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2022, 04:22:14 pm »
You use the expression lad a lot if you employ lads you will have this sort of problem, you need reliable men most lads will have been out on the beer all weekend , I have no idea what you are offering pay wise but suspect this could also be a reason why theses ones are so unreliable, I have 5 full time staff and 4 others that I can call on to help out and I never get this situation, but they are paid  well and are men not lads the modern day younger generally doesn’t understand the ethos of work .
Do your guys do about 40 houses a day each?

If it’s estate houses one after the other then up to 48-55 but some are fronts only , some days it’s considerably less if big manor houses  some days it’s commercial only .
I'm just doing the numbers. We've just over 4,000 customers, 8 full time vans and with extras (gutters etc.). We are 8 weekly. I'm just impressed that you can get 5 full time staff to manage in effect 9000 customers if they were 8 weekly. I reckon I'd need 15 vans to cover our work if it was all 4 weekly. We do travel mind - around 30 miles in each direction, but still. Your guys must all be supermen. I'm sure you said you never get cancels either so they must be amazing staff. I'm jealous.

Splash & dash

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2022, 05:05:54 pm »
Blimey 8 Weekly no wonder I get told I’m full of bu**poop on here 40 houses lol,I can’t remember the last day we did over 10.

We have a couple of housing estates ware we do several hundred houses and only move the vans half a mile all week boring work but very profitable, the guys love it as they get good bonuses on  productivity 

Splash & dash

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2022, 05:10:00 pm »
Nearly seven houses an hour for eight hours with no lunch break. That’s going some.

As I said some are fronts only but I personally can do 6 3 bed semis per hour and that’s not rushing we have roads ware we do every single house , one guy goes one way with 125 meters of hose the other guy goes the other direction they meet in the middle. Then cross over the road and do the same . We do have lunch break but work 8 hours per day on the glass . The guys want to do this as it benefits them financially.

Splash & dash

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Re: Joys of employing
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2022, 05:21:39 pm »
You use the expression lad a lot if you employ lads you will have this sort of problem, you need reliable men most lads will have been out on the beer all weekend , I have no idea what you are offering pay wise but suspect this could also be a reason why theses ones are so unreliable, I have 5 full time staff and 4 others that I can call on to help out and I never get this situation, but they are paid  well and are men not lads the modern day younger generally doesn’t understand the ethos of work .
Do your guys do about 40 houses a day each?

If it’s estate houses one after the other then up to 48-55 but some are fronts only , some days it’s considerably less if big manor houses  some days it’s commercial only .
I'm just doing the numbers. We've just over 4,000 customers, 8 full time vans and with extras (gutters etc.). We are 8 weekly. I'm just impressed that you can get 5 full time staff to manage in effect 9000 customers if they were 8 weekly. I reckon I'd need 15 vans to cover our work if it was all 4 weekly. We do travel mind - around 30 miles in each direction, but still. Your guys must all be supermen. I'm sure you said you never get cancels either so they must be amazing staff. I'm jealous.

We do commercial work up to 300 miles from home , that’s only a few days every 6-8 weeks ,but 99% of our domestic is within 2 miles of my home , so it’s literally a 5 muinit drive , all my guys are very motivated and hard workers I have had some right time wasters over the years but we are a small team that get on well , they know if they crack on they will get a decent bonus at the end of the month , I do pay a much higher rate than most would  don’t want to say on hear how much but they couldn’t earn what  they do doing anything else , there are 6 workers on the tools as I go out every day as well , we do a lot of 3 bed semis which we can knock out very quickly, they are also very close together so no travel time . We vary rarely get cancellations unless there is a genuine reason , I have a very strict regime won’t take messers either as customers or staff 😂😂. I am in the process of selling off a load of work at the moment as we have to much