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Splash & dash

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #80 on: October 04, 2022, 05:07:52 pm »
Questions for you Winpro...

When you are stood away from your van working can you adjust the flow rate on your pole and if so how?

Does your controller allow you to run your pump at maximum pressure/power and if you do how do your plastic hose clips fare?



Genuine question why would you need to adjust flow rate on the same job ? I understand if doing a first clean or plastic clean but for normal windows never needed to adjust it in 18 + years . To be fair it’s very rare we ever alter the flow rate  full stop . We dont have them but you can get a thing called one shot that will adjust the flow etc whilst working up to 100 meters away from the van provided it’s in line of sight
We always double clip hose connections as we use hot water and they will leak if you don’t clip them

AuRavelling79

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #81 on: October 04, 2022, 05:10:05 pm »
Questions for you Winpro...

When you are stood away from your van working can you adjust the flow rate on your pole and if so how?

Does your controller allow you to run your pump at maximum pressure/power and if you do how do your plastic hose clips fare?



Genuine question why would you need to adjust flow rate on the same job ? I understand if doing a first clean or plastic clean but for normal windows never needed to adjust it in 18 + years . To be fair it’s very rare we ever alter the flow rate  full stop . We dont have them but you can get a thing called one shot that will adjust the flow etc whilst working up to 100 meters away from the van provided it’s in line of sight
We always double clip hose connections as we use hot water and they will leak if you don’t clip them
Have a look at my last couple of posts with examples.
It's a game of three halves!

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #82 on: October 04, 2022, 05:15:53 pm »
So let me tell you a about a farmhouse that I do. The fronts have traditional sliding sash windows which are a bit worse for wear. One is particularly poor so I turn the flow low.

The backs have upper windows which are leaded and need to be carefully cleaned. But then there are rooflights on a new extension which has new glass doors across its whole width.

So I want low flow in places, mid flow on the rooflights and full flow on the patio doors. I adjust thus with a tap.

I don't see any benefit to the system being used by most on here.

The owner did say that the previous cleaner got water in the old windows.

Maybe he just cracked on at his pre set speed?

If I had a fob to adjust flow from a distance how long does it take to change and settle down? Immediately? A couple of seconds? Longer? Does it work from behind a house?

Well if you are prepared to allow one job prevent you from using a far better solution for the other 99.9% and be better for your whole system then...... I ain't wasting any more time with you pal, crack on!🤔😎👌

So no "far better solution" at all -  just hot air and ridicule from you then. To recap - my simple system gets water where I want it at the precise flow I need it exactly when I want it. Yours doesn't.

I have no failure of pump, no failure of battery no over usage of water.

Sorry if your "Rolls-Royce" can't make it up a farm track. You're getting water to a brush. If you want to do that by gold-plating it so you can look down on me then that's fine by me.

Now ... can anyone else answer this question please?

If I had a fob to adjust flow from a distance how long does it take to change and settle down? Immediately? A couple of seconds? Longer? Does it work from behind a house?

Like I said, ain't worth arguing about. Jog on old timer.😎👍
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Splash & dash

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #83 on: October 04, 2022, 05:16:15 pm »
So let me tell you a about a farmhouse that I do. The fronts have traditional sliding sash windows which are a bit worse for wear. One is particularly poor so I turn the flow low.

The backs have upper windows which are leaded and need to be carefully cleaned. But then there are rooflights on a new extension which has new glass doors across its whole width.

So I want low flow in places, mid flow on the rooflights and full flow on the patio doors. I adjust thus with a tap.

I don't see any benefit to the system being used by most on here.

The owner did say that the previous cleaner got water in the old windows.

Maybe he just cracked on at his pre set speed?

If I had a fob to adjust flow from a distance how long does it take to change and settle down? Immediately? A couple of seconds? Longer? Does it work from behind a house?

We have a few jobs that are similar but just use the same flow rate , if they leak that’s their problem mot mine as I explain if Windows are ropey when quoting that they might leak , if they are that bad we wouldn’t take on the job don’t need that type of work plenty of decent jobs so no point in doing them as far as ime concerned

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #84 on: October 04, 2022, 05:18:27 pm »
Questions for you Winpro...

When you are stood away from your van working can you adjust the flow rate on your pole and if so how?

Does your controller allow you to run your pump at maximum pressure/power and if you do how do your plastic hose clips fare?



Genuine question why would you need to adjust flow rate on the same job ? I understand if doing a first clean or plastic clean but for normal windows never needed to adjust it in 18 + years . To be fair it’s very rare we ever alter the flow rate  full stop . We dont have them but you can get a thing called one shot that will adjust the flow etc whilst working up to 100 meters away from the van provided it’s in line of sight
We always double clip hose connections as we use hot water and they will leak if you don’t clip them

I think he's just determined to find situations that justify why he's right and 99% of wfp users, plus every supplier is wrong!🥴🤔🤣
Comfortably Numb!

AuRavelling79

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #85 on: October 04, 2022, 05:32:24 pm »
Questions for you Winpro...

When you are stood away from your van working can you adjust the flow rate on your pole and if so how?

Does your controller allow you to run your pump at maximum pressure/power and if you do how do your plastic hose clips fare?



Genuine question why would you need to adjust flow rate on the same job ? I understand if doing a first clean or plastic clean but for normal windows never needed to adjust it in 18 + years . To be fair it’s very rare we ever alter the flow rate  full stop . We dont have them but you can get a thing called one shot that will adjust the flow etc whilst working up to 100 meters away from the van provided it’s in line of sight
We always double clip hose connections as we use hot water and they will leak if you don’t clip them

I think he's just determined to find situations that justify why he's right and 99% of wfp users, plus every supplier is wrong!🥴🤔🤣

 ;D
It's a game of three halves!

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #86 on: October 04, 2022, 05:34:05 pm »
'A problem for every solution' that's it! 😁
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AuRavelling79

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #87 on: October 04, 2022, 05:35:40 pm »
So let me tell you a about a farmhouse that I do. The fronts have traditional sliding sash windows which are a bit worse for wear. One is particularly poor so I turn the flow low.

The backs have upper windows which are leaded and need to be carefully cleaned. But then there are rooflights on a new extension which has new glass doors across its whole width.

So I want low flow in places, mid flow on the rooflights and full flow on the patio doors. I adjust thus with a tap.

I don't see any benefit to the system being used by most on here.

The owner did say that the previous cleaner got water in the old windows.

Maybe he just cracked on at his pre set speed?

If I had a fob to adjust flow from a distance how long does it take to change and settle down? Immediately? A couple of seconds? Longer? Does it work from behind a house?

We have a few jobs that are similar but just use the same flow rate , if they leak that’s their problem mot mine as I explain if Windows are ropey when quoting that they might leak , if they are that bad we wouldn’t take on the job don’t need that type of work plenty of decent jobs so no point in doing them as far as ime concerned

They are decent jobs. To me a decent job is one that pays a good rate for the time spent.  And it is nice to stand out from others who choose not to do them.
It's a game of three halves!

AuRavelling79

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #88 on: October 04, 2022, 05:37:38 pm »
'A problem for every solution' that's it! 😁

But I have no problem.

And yet you offer a solution where none is needed. And which would reduce the finesse with with which I prefer to work.
It's a game of three halves!

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #89 on: October 04, 2022, 05:51:06 pm »
'A problem for every solution' that's it! 😁

But I have no problem.

And yet you offer a solution where none is needed. And which would reduce the finesse with with which I prefer to work.

All sorted then,  just carry on exactly as you're doing.👍
Comfortably Numb!

Splash & dash

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #90 on: October 04, 2022, 06:00:30 pm »
So let me tell you a about a farmhouse that I do. The fronts have traditional sliding sash windows which are a bit worse for wear. One is particularly poor so I turn the flow low.

The backs have upper windows which are leaded and need to be carefully cleaned. But then there are rooflights on a new extension which has new glass doors across its whole width.

So I want low flow in places, mid flow on the rooflights and full flow on the patio doors. I adjust thus with a tap.

I don't see any benefit to the system being used by most on here.

The owner did say that the previous cleaner got water in the old windows.

Maybe he just cracked on at his pre set speed?

If I had a fob to adjust flow from a distance how long does it take to change and settle down? Immediately? A couple of seconds? Longer? Does it work from behind a house?

We have a few jobs that are similar but just use the same flow rate , if they leak that’s their problem mot mine as I explain if Windows are ropey when quoting that they might leak , if they are that bad we wouldn’t take on the job don’t need that type of work plenty of decent jobs so no point in doing them as far as ime concerned

They are decent jobs. To me a decent job is one that pays a good rate for the time spent.  And it is nice to stand out from others who choose not to do them.


We can afford to be fussy with what jobs we take on as there is a shortage of cleaners hear but I don’t call the type of job you describe as a decent job , sounds to me that it will have flaking paint , rotten wood etc getting in the bristles of the brush and making the job harder and longer to do , it’s not for us , but each to their own , we prefer nice houses with large  UPVC easy to clean windows  that are quick to do and pay a premium 😂😂


NWH

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #91 on: October 04, 2022, 06:08:37 pm »
We would pole tops regardless of condition and if need be trad the bottoms as long as the price was worth it,turn the flow up turn the flow down etc sod that if it gets the pole it gets a good rinse.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #92 on: October 04, 2022, 06:11:11 pm »
We would pole tops regardless of condition and if need be trad the bottoms as long as the price was worth it,turn the flow up turn the flow down etc sod that if it gets the pole it gets a good rinse.

So you'll use trad tools but not change the flow of your water to suit?
It's a game of three halves!

AuRavelling79

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #93 on: October 04, 2022, 06:13:53 pm »
So let me tell you a about a farmhouse that I do. The fronts have traditional sliding sash windows which are a bit worse for wear. One is particularly poor so I turn the flow low.

The backs have upper windows which are leaded and need to be carefully cleaned. But then there are rooflights on a new extension which has new glass doors across its whole width.

So I want low flow in places, mid flow on the rooflights and full flow on the patio doors. I adjust thus with a tap.

I don't see any benefit to the system being used by most on here.

The owner did say that the previous cleaner got water in the old windows.

Maybe he just cracked on at his pre set speed?

If I had a fob to adjust flow from a distance how long does it take to change and settle down? Immediately? A couple of seconds? Longer? Does it work from behind a house?

We have a few jobs that are similar but just use the same flow rate , if they leak that’s their problem mot mine as I explain if Windows are ropey when quoting that they might leak , if they are that bad we wouldn’t take on the job don’t need that type of work plenty of decent jobs so no point in doing them as far as ime concerned

They are decent jobs. To me a decent job is one that pays a good rate for the time spent.  And it is nice to stand out from others who choose not to do them.


We can afford to be fussy with what jobs we take on as there is a shortage of cleaners hear but I don’t call the type of job you describe as a decent job , sounds to me that it will have flaking paint , rotten wood etc getting in the bristles of the brush and making the job harder and longer to do , it’s not for us , but each to their own , we prefer nice houses with large  UPVC easy to clean windows  that are quick to do and pay a premium 😂😂

I like houses with large UPVC as well. I then use the pump at full blast and get them done very fast, but as long as I get the hourly rate I want - and of course the customer is happy - then I don't mind using my water flow skilfully at all.
It's a game of three halves!

windowswashed

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #94 on: October 04, 2022, 06:16:14 pm »
I increase my flow controller by 3-5 going from small brush to large brush, that's it.

CleanClear

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #95 on: October 04, 2022, 06:24:56 pm »

I like houses with large UPVC as well. I then use the pump at full blast and get them done very fast, but as long as I get the hourly rate I want - and of course the customer is happy - then I don't mind using my water flow skilfully at all.

Using a tap on houses with large UPVC gets them done very fast ?  ;D  When i get the hourly rate i want i just get them done, not sure about "very" fast.
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NWH

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #96 on: October 04, 2022, 06:58:38 pm »
We would pole tops regardless of condition and if need be trad the bottoms as long as the price was worth it,turn the flow up turn the flow down etc sod that if it gets the pole it gets a good rinse.

So you'll use trad tools but not change the flow of your water to suit?

No it’s all about the time it takes to get the job done we pole the tops regardless due to H&S if they are they bad just trad em downstairs what’s the point messing about if they are in that bad a condition,if the price isn’t right with windows like that I would walk anyway be cheaper for them to get them repaired than to have me keep cleaning em lol.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #97 on: October 04, 2022, 07:09:21 pm »
We would pole tops regardless of condition and if need be trad the bottoms as long as the price was worth it,turn the flow up turn the flow down etc sod that if it gets the pole it gets a good rinse.

So you'll use trad tools but not change the flow of your water to suit?

No it’s all about the time it takes to get the job done we pole the tops regardless due to H&S if they are they bad just trad em downstairs what’s the point messing about if they are in that bad a condition,if the price isn’t right with windows like that I would walk anyway be cheaper for them to get them repaired than to have me keep cleaning em lol.

Exactly.
It's a game of three halves!

AuRavelling79

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #98 on: October 04, 2022, 07:12:16 pm »

I like houses with large UPVC as well. I then use the pump at full blast and get them done very fast, but as long as I get the hourly rate I want - and of course the customer is happy - then I don't mind using my water flow skilfully at all.

Using a tap on houses with large UPVC gets them done very fast ? ;D  When i get the hourly rate i want i just get them done, not sure about "very" fast.

Not quite. The large UPVC windows get done very fast because the flow is full blast. But if there is (say) a wooden door with a glass panel I can turn it down - especially in winter when I might not want copious amounts of freezing water left behind.
It's a game of three halves!