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JandS

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Flow controller
« on: September 26, 2022, 04:39:31 pm »
When they go do they just stop working?
On Friday mine turned itself off 3 times during the day but when I pressed the button it came back on again.
Today after 5 minutes it switched itself off and wouldn't come back on....fiddled with wiring to no avail so did rest of day with battery straight to pump.......new controller ordered.
On full flow it certainly makes a difference speed wise but certainly uses up the water.

Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

JandS

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2022, 08:37:04 pm »
It's only about a year old as well.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Ched

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2022, 08:55:56 pm »
If it's a spring one they can repair it for a reasonable fee then you have a spare.

JandS

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2022, 09:32:30 pm »
V16
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Rob.Hall

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2022, 09:46:31 pm »
 Give Ian a call at v controllers  07507980159.
He helped me out with a problem.
I found them very helpful.

Ched

  • Posts: 441
Re: Flow controller
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2022, 10:21:01 pm »
It's only about a year old as well.
Definitely email Ian Shepard at Spring as he might be able to help as it's not very old.

Spruce

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2022, 06:24:11 am »
They are programmed to automatically switch off when the battery voltage drops to 10.4v under load.
Once the load on the battery is removed the battery voltage will recover very quickly giving the impression it is charged.
This points to a failing battery or one that needs charging.

Then again, a poor connection can also cause a voltage drop to the controller.
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Simon Trapani

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2022, 06:26:18 am »
Almost always a battery or connection problem. Be interesting to see what it was when you get this sorted.

Spruce

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2022, 07:30:20 am »
Almost always a battery or connection problem. Be interesting to see what it was when you get this sorted.

I agree. While there is always the possibility that the controller has developed a fault, by and large these controllers are bullet proof.

A pump will still run on a low battery voltage if the controller is bypassed. This could give the impression the original problem isn't battery related.
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Ian Sheppard

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2022, 11:08:13 am »
V16

As the controller is a year old we can certainly take a look at it for you. The issue may be related to the pump drive stage but without seeing the controller its difficult to know for sure. Drop me an email ian.sheppard@springltd.co if you would like us to take a look at it

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JandS

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2022, 08:53:31 pm »
Emailed you Ian....the battery is only 3 months old and is showing full charge and operating normally with new controller.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Missing Link

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2022, 09:46:46 pm »
Bin the flow controllers; they're over-priced, annoying, and fragile things.

Get a couple of cheap Chinese motor controllers:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334001873263

We've used them for years now and I always keep a spare in the glove compartment.  My last must've lasted a couple of years, but when it went I just re-wired a new one in, in under ten minutes.
Pronouns She/Her/Madam/Ma'am

Splash & dash

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2022, 10:00:07 pm »
Bin the flow controllers; they're over-priced, annoying, and fragile things.

Get a couple of cheap Chinese motor controllers:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334001873263

We've used them for years now and I always keep a spare in the glove compartment.  My last must've lasted a couple of years, but when it went I just re-wired a new one in, in under ten minutes.


Another high class item from china 😂😂😂😂 wouldn't put that rubbish  in any  of my vans it’s very likely to catch fire , sub standard cables and components , just like theses cheap Chinese  heaters ones use in camper vans many have gone up in flames and insurance won’t pay  out as they aren’t CE marked or approved use at your own risk . Never worth the risk for paying around  £90 more for a decent approved item , that’s covered with a warranty.

Missing Link

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2022, 10:55:21 pm »
Another high class item from china 😂😂😂😂 wouldn't put that rubbish  in any  of my vans it’s very likely to catch fire , sub standard cables and components , just like theses cheap Chinese  heaters ones use in camper vans many have gone up in flames and insurance won’t pay  out as they aren’t CE marked or approved use at your own risk . Never worth the risk for paying around  £90 more for a decent approved item , that’s covered with a warranty.

Funnily enough, whatever flow controller you're using, yep, made in China.  ;D
Pronouns She/Her/Madam/Ma'am

Splash & dash

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2022, 11:01:17 pm »
Another high class item from china 😂😂😂😂 wouldn't put that rubbish  in any  of my vans it’s very likely to catch fire , sub standard cables and components , just like theses cheap Chinese  heaters ones use in camper vans many have gone up in flames and insurance won’t pay  out as they aren’t CE marked or approved use at your own risk . Never worth the risk for paying around  £90 more for a decent approved item , that’s covered with a warranty.

Funnily enough, whatever flow controller you're using, yep, made in China.  ;D

No they aren’t 

Missing Link

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2022, 11:05:04 pm »
No they aren’t

Aye, they will be.  We all know it.
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AuRavelling79

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2022, 11:33:38 pm »
Flow controller is completely unnecessary. Haven't used once since the old dial days. Present pump is over 5 years old.
It's a game of three halves!

Pete Thompson

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2022, 11:59:10 pm »
Flow controller is completely unnecessary. Haven't used once since the old dial days. Present pump is over 5 years old.

I think the primary purpose is to save water, rather than reduce wear on the pump.

Generally speaking, increasing the flow will speed up the cleaning, but beyond a certain point, increasing the flow will not noticeably increase the speed (so you are just wasting water)

Plus, a flow controller will automatically adjust the power to the pump to compensate for a higher level to pump to, longer hose etc. without a flow controller, the flow would decrease at height and hose length.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2022, 04:28:49 pm »
Flow controller is completely unnecessary. Haven't used once since the old dial days. Present pump is over 5 years old.

I think the primary purpose is to save water, rather than reduce wear on the pump.

Generally speaking, increasing the flow will speed up the cleaning, but beyond a certain point, increasing the flow will not noticeably increase the speed (so you are just wasting water)

Plus, a flow controller will automatically adjust the power to the pump to compensate for a higher level to pump to, longer hose etc. without a flow controller, the flow would decrease at height and hose length.

If there is no flow controller it is as fast as it can be - the controller does not increase the flow beyond the pump's maximum capacity. I work up to 45 feet through 100metres of hose and get no appreciable difference in flow. I can adjust it with the in line tap if I need to turn the flow down.

I like to do things that "can't be done" or "won't work" - my other fave is reinforced pole hose on my reel instead of microbore - which saves a lot of effort and arm ache.
It's a game of three halves!

Splash & dash

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Re: Flow controller
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2022, 05:58:24 pm »