[Mike Burd]

It sounds as though at long last the government will be acting. As it's just a continuity gov, I can't see why this wasn't done weeks ago to provide certainty for people. No handouts though as it sounds like we'll be paying it back over many years.

[Ggh]

Gotta protect the dividends of the energy companies. Sod the poor, they can pay it back for generations.

[NBwcs]

Thought id have a look at my comparison between aug 21 and aug 22 for both gas and electric, i live in a 3bed detached .and with Octopus Energy.

Aug 21   electric (day) 16.44 p/kwh
                                     (night)10.23 p/kwh
                                     (standing charge)  19.10p per day
                    gas          2.6p kwh
                                     (Standing charge) 17.00p per day

Aug 22    electric (day) 28.57 p/kwh
                                   (night) 19.71 p/kwh
                                   (standing charge) 42.45 per day
                    gas         6.93p kwh
                                   (standing charge)  25.92p per day

My  DD was £116.53 aug21 and now £215.67

so thats an increase of ...    electric (day) + 73.78%
                                                          electric (night) + 92.67%
                                                          electric st/ch  +122.25%
                                                           Gas                       +166.54%
                                                           Gas  st/ch          + 52.47% 
                                                           DD                        + 85.27%

So putting bickering aside boys, i'm  sure we can all agree it doesn't make for great reading and doesn't include the forthcoming October increase 

And we can also agree it does not include any financial help her Lizziness will announce tomorrow and in the next few weeks.

Tories have had all summer to sort something, yet they refused to.

Dude. You can roll away until your eyes do a full 360. You know I’m right.
Truss’ stance on solar is blatant lies too.
More of the same with this administration, it seems.

https://www.solarpowerportal.co.uk/news/energy_sector_hits_back_as_truss_dubs_solar_farms_paraphernalia

Same old lying tories.

Meanwhile our customers take the lolly handed out at just the right time after knowing what the prices will be and the new PM is in place.



"just the right time!"   This should have been done weeks ago instead of subjecting the UK general public to a 6 week Conservative leader trial bought about by there own prime ministers appalling behaviour. A general election only takes 4 weeks. I wonder how many people have lost their jobs in that 6 weeks who might not have done if this had been done earlier?

 

[AuRavelling79]

Should've been done weeks ago.

It was. It's been promised, we got money in April, more promised then and now details coming through.

Now that we know what ofgem said about the cap we are getting the assistance as autumn arrives. We just didn't know the details.

As for lost jobs, give me a break. Companies round here can't get staff. Cafés and Bars have signs up asking for staff. Other firms have posters outside begging for workers. Flyers come through my door offering sign up bonuses.

No one on here is getting cancellations in any significant number.

Yet political point scorers try and whip up panic on here. Not happy with Boris going they expect the party leader election rules to be changed on a whim to suit their hand wringing whining.

Calm down, grow a backbone and get stuck in to your work  and stop dripping like a sheep's wet bits.

[Slacky]

Sheeps wet bits

Yip, that's accurate.....

[Bungle]

Picked up 2 today. Both walk ups 👍

[NBwcs]

   Sounds like i've hit a nerve 

Should've been done weeks ago.

It was. It's been promised, we got money in April, more promised then and now details coming through.

Now that we know what ofgem said about the cap we are getting the assistance as autumn arrives. We just didn't know the details.

Behave yourself, you know full well everyones been waiting on news of new help not insufficiant help announced months ago.

As for lost jobs, give me a break. Companies round here can't get staff. Cafés and Bars have signs up asking for staff. Other firms have posters outside begging for workers. Flyers come through my door offering sign up bonuses.

You live in the south west dont you? of course theres jobs around you, Cameron made sure of that when he thought he could sort out the in fighting in his own party and it spectacularly backfired.

No one on here is getting cancellations in any significant number.

We,re still enjoying the hottest , dryest  spell since 1976,hardly a surprise there then is there 

Yet political point scorers try and whip up panic on here. Not happy with Boris going they expect the party leader election rules to be changed on a whim to suit their hand wringing whining.

God forbid the people of this country should  want a Government to actually govern during a "crisis".

Calm down, grow a backbone and get stuck in to your work  and stop dripping like a sheep's wet bits.

Just for the record, i have no political bias im very much a floating voter which is how it should be because the world is an ever changing place and no one party has all the answers. this gives me the "backbone" to call it out when somethings clearly not right and not blindly defend every action the party i voted for takes, its a political party making serious decsions not a football team. I get the impression if they dug Jimmy Saville up and put a blue rosette on him you'd still vote Tory.
 Heres hoping they might have got something right , only time will tell.

[AuRavelling79]

Yes, NBwcs - even now the latest announcement has come through you're still dripping on.

Covid payments to our customers - not enough. Energy bill payments to our customers - not enough.

No sign of significant cancellations - still not enough.

The weather is hot and sunny? Wrong weather now is it?

And now the Queen has passed away that will be another ten days of a government with their eyes off the football.

What next? The wrong King?

As for your disgusting jibe about Savile, blue rosettes and my voting record about which you couldn't hit a barn door at ten paces, I'll leave it there as a glowing example of your mindset.

[Gringo]

Just sticking to OP, lost 2 picked up 1, so by my reckoning I'm 50% down new enquiries to jobs lost, how are others getting on??? Thread seems to have got political with all talk of Tory and Jimmy Saville stuff

[alank]

Two walk ups this week just estate houses one at £16 one at £14, priced up a farm that i probably will not get due to price.
Two are moving one of which has informed me that they want us to clean the new house once its ready and its going to be higher priced than the one they are leaving.
The other one has left our details and recommendation with the new owners.
Have had a lower response from the last flyers that were put out June/July.
Most of the new work appears to be coming in from walk ups so the pickup is in today being sign written.

[NBwcs]

Yes, NBwcs - even now the latest announcement has come through you're still dripping on.

Covid payments to our customers - not enough. Energy bill payments to our customers - not enough.

No sign of significant cancellations - still not enough.

The weather is hot and sunny? Wrong weather now is it?

And now the Queen has passed away that will be another ten days of a government with their eyes off the football.

What next? The wrong King?

As for your disgusting jibe about Savile, blue rosettes and my voting record about which you couldn't hit a barn door at ten paces, I'll leave it there as a glowing example of your mindset.

Covid payments?.... Wrong king?.... 
Where's all that coming from? As for the Saville comment, quite clearly used  as an extreme example of blind loyalty, calm down and  dont take it so personally.  Even allowing for everyones different political views, there won't be a single shiner on here who doesn't want your optimism about the forthcoming winter to prove right. I'll leave it there.

[AuRavelling79]

NBwcs, Covid payments and Wrong King are examples of how nothing is good enough for you.

And telling me not to take personally that I'd vote for the Tories based on a notorious paedo wearing a blue rosette?

If you said that about any other poster and they reported you to the mods then at the very least the post would have been removed.

On the point of cancellations - even as I am typing this post an enquiry has come through for yet another window cleaning quote.

Thankfully the vast majority of our customers don't share your negative mindset.

[NWH]

There’s still people out there ie customers that will try and keep us on I’m sure out of loyalty to a point,it’s the younger customers that don’t know the meaning of the word that will have no issue with cancelling.

[AuRavelling79]

There’s still people out there ie customers that will try and keep us on I’m sure out of loyalty to a point,it’s the younger customers that don’t know the meaning of the word that will have no issue with cancelling.

True. However maybe some of the younger set (under 50/60) are still paying off mortgages, cars and Uni costs and so economics drives their decisions a bit more?

[Ggh]

There’s still people out there ie customers that will try and keep us on I’m sure out of loyalty to a point,it’s the younger customers that don’t know the meaning of the word that will have no issue with cancelling.

True. However maybe some of the younger set (under 50/60) are still paying off mortgages, cars and Uni costs and so economics drives their decisions a bit more?

Most under 50 have been priced out of a mortgage and pay ridiculous rents.

I’m still waiting for Truss’ help for those on heating oil. Seems they’ve been thrown under the bus. That’s what most of our customers use. It’s already up 300%

[Slacky]

How is it you’ve managed to create a window cleaning round where the majority of your customers use heating oil for fuel?

That’s some demographic to target.

[Slacky]

Saying that I’ve never done a survey of my custards to see how they heat their home.

What on earth made you do that?

[Simon Trapani]

This thread needs to be longer😳

[AuRavelling79]

This thread needs to be longer😳

Good point. 

Locked. If there is a marked uptick in cancellations we can revisit it.

Edit to add: Even if not we can check how everyone is doing in a few weeks time.

[AuRavelling79]

Well, coming up to two months after locking this thread I am opening it again to see if cancellations are becoming an issue for anyone now.