[Bungle]

Soupy was asked - and visually told he was lying that leccy was up 180 odd %

he's proved this to be true - so in all good grace  accept it...

Generally from what ive heard on the radio etc... the average bill will be 180 odd % higher by April - deny it, bury your head in the sand all you like - but thats the way its going esp. as we have a zombie govt at this time

Darran

I haven’t called  anyone a liar but have said mine and none of my friends and family have gone up by anything like what he’s quoting , only time will tell what will happen and this time next year we will be in a position to know exact what has and what will happen with energy prices , I said it before and will say it again Joe bloggs stacking shelves in Tesco will not be able to pay bills like this as well as run a car ,pay the mortgage or rent,  buy food , pay water bills , council tax , buy cloths etc , it’s just simply not possible, if no one pays their bills then all the energy companies will go bust so what will happen then ? It’s a right old mess I agree but a group of windows cleaners on a forum can debate this until the cows come home and it won’t make the slightest difference, I personally can afford what ever the cost is but on principle  will not pay those sort of prices end off .

I agree what you're saying about lower paid people not affording their energy bills. This cannot go on indefinitely as no one will be able to afford anything, we'll be going back to the dark ages and just about surviving. How will your principle of not paying the prices work though?

[Splash & dash]

Soupy was asked - and visually told he was lying that leccy was up 180 odd %

he's proved this to be true - so in all good grace  accept it...

Generally from what ive heard on the radio etc... the average bill will be 180 odd % higher by April - deny it, bury your head in the sand all you like - but thats the way its going esp. as we have a zombie govt at this time

Darran

I haven’t called  anyone a liar but have said mine and none of my friends and family have gone up by anything like what he’s quoting , only time will tell what will happen and this time next year we will be in a position to know exact what has and what will happen with energy prices , I said it before and will say it again Joe bloggs stacking shelves in Tesco will not be able to pay bills like this as well as run a car ,pay the mortgage or rent,  buy food , pay water bills , council tax , buy cloths etc , it’s just simply not possible, if no one pays their bills then all the energy companies will go bust so what will happen then ? It’s a right old mess I agree but a group of windows cleaners on a forum can debate this until the cows come home and it won’t make the slightest difference, I personally can afford what ever the cost is but on principle  will not pay those sort of prices end off .

I agree what you're saying about lower paid people not affording their energy bills. This cannot go on indefinitely as no one will be able to afford anything, we'll be going back to the dark ages and just about surviving. How will your principle of not paying the prices work though?

Ime seriously thinking of living in the camper van and leaving the house  empty  for a while been thinking about a long trip away  , or might rent the house out for a few months , I certainly won’t be paying  the predicted  energy costs out of principal , we haven’t made a decision yet  but ime considering all options .

[Arnold Palmer]

Just looked at the combined  gas and electric bill and it’s gone up by 60%  so far , that’s a long way off your 189%

OK then, if yours has gone up 60% so far let's make it simple and say you started at say 20p/kwh

20p/kwh + 60% = 32p/kwh

32p/kwh  + 80% (announced by Offbollox last week) = 57.6p/kwh

Percentage increase from 20p/kwh to 57.6p/kwh is.....

188%

Tell me again how I'm "way off", "need counselling" and "need to get a grip" man.

See above.

[andycap]

Just sent a few text messages for tomorrow...2 came back ..hold off at the minute 😧
I’m only a small round anyway and these two have previously been bang on😳

[johnny bravo]

just offer a 6/8 weekly clean

[Bungle]

Soupy was asked - and visually told he was lying that leccy was up 180 odd %

he's proved this to be true - so in all good grace  accept it...

Generally from what ive heard on the radio etc... the average bill will be 180 odd % higher by April - deny it, bury your head in the sand all you like - but thats the way its going esp. as we have a zombie govt at this time

Darran

I haven’t called  anyone a liar but have said mine and none of my friends and family have gone up by anything like what he’s quoting , only time will tell what will happen and this time next year we will be in a position to know exact what has and what will happen with energy prices , I said it before and will say it again Joe bloggs stacking shelves in Tesco will not be able to pay bills like this as well as run a car ,pay the mortgage or rent,  buy food , pay water bills , council tax , buy cloths etc , it’s just simply not possible, if no one pays their bills then all the energy companies will go bust so what will happen then ? It’s a right old mess I agree but a group of windows cleaners on a forum can debate this until the cows come home and it won’t make the slightest difference, I personally can afford what ever the cost is but on principle  will not pay those sort of prices end off .

I agree what you're saying about lower paid people not affording their energy bills. This cannot go on indefinitely as no one will be able to afford anything, we'll be going back to the dark ages and just about surviving. How will your principle of not paying the prices work though?

Ime seriously thinking of living in the camper van and leaving the house  empty  for a while been thinking about a long trip away  , or might rent the house out for a few months , I certainly won’t be paying  the predicted  energy costs out of principal , we haven’t made a decision yet  but ime considering all options .

I was thinking similar. I was thinking about selling the house, van, motorbikes....packing work in and live in my caravan. Feck it, I've had enough of the lot of it.

[Bungle]

Just sent a few text messages for tomorrow...2 came back ..hold off at the minute 😧
I’m only a small round anyway and these two have previously been bang on😳

😢

[windowswashed]

I have a nest egg for a rainy day but think it's going to pay to get solar installed in the house, needs must. I'm not paying thiose daft energy prices  when it kicks in.

Without government help a lot of small businesses will not be viable to make a profit and will fold, guarantee it!

I think I will be able to ride out the storm reasonably well as I clean in a lot of affluent areas but I also have a mixed bag of work/customers to minimise the risks. from previous experience of hard times, this will be the worst and anyone who thinks it won't affect them directly or indirectly hasn't really taken on board the fact that wages have been kept low since the banking crisis, covid, fuel poverty, interest rates escalating for mortgages, rising inflation and job losses to follow, not good times but hard times ahead for one or two years minimum.

[Splash & dash]

Soupy was asked - and visually told he was lying that leccy was up 180 odd %

he's proved this to be true - so in all good grace  accept it...

Generally from what ive heard on the radio etc... the average bill will be 180 odd % higher by April - deny it, bury your head in the sand all you like - but thats the way its going esp. as we have a zombie govt at this time

Darran

I haven’t called  anyone a liar but have said mine and none of my friends and family have gone up by anything like what he’s quoting , only time will tell what will happen and this time next year we will be in a position to know exact what has and what will happen with energy prices , I said it before and will say it again Joe bloggs stacking shelves in Tesco will not be able to pay bills like this as well as run a car ,pay the mortgage or rent,  buy food , pay water bills , council tax , buy cloths etc , it’s just simply not possible, if no one pays their bills then all the energy companies will go bust so what will happen then ? It’s a right old mess I agree but a group of windows cleaners on a forum can debate this until the cows come home and it won’t make the slightest difference, I personally can afford what ever the cost is but on principle  will not pay those sort of prices end off .

I agree what you're saying about lower paid people not affording their energy bills. This cannot go on indefinitely as no one will be able to afford anything, we'll be going back to the dark ages and just about surviving. How will your principle of not paying the prices work though?

Ime seriously thinking of living in the camper van and leaving the house  empty  for a while been thinking about a long trip away  , or might rent the house out for a few months , I certainly won’t be paying  the predicted  energy costs out of principal , we haven’t made a decision yet  but ime considering all options .

I was thinking similar. I was thinking about selling the house, van, motorbikes....packing work in and live in my caravan. Feck it, I've had enough of the lot of it.

We have been looking at possibly buying a field and putting a log cabin on it ,( obviously got to get planning) bore hole for  water , solar with battery back up for electric , and wind turbine , and septic tank and  not needing any outside supplies , it’s not cheap technology but it’s an option that in the long term could  save a fortune , ime in the process of selling of over 4,000 jobs  so this will give me a nice little lump sum to put towards it .

[robbo333]

I'm 8 weekly in Bournemouth and had 3 cancel this year; all said it was due to rising costs. Good customers too.
I am still doing price increases (£1 here £2 there) and that is all going ok.
What I have changed is: I'm cutting down on my workload, so I was ready to bin off a few jobs that I don't really enjoy. Probably 5% of my round. However, now, I will keep hold of these customers and maybe do a cull this time next year.
I have done no advertising at all this year and I'm still picking up work, not loads, but some.
Personally, I will ignore any outside influences and just keep going.

[dazmond]

Soupy was asked - and visually told he was lying that leccy was up 180 odd %

he's proved this to be true - so in all good grace  accept it...

Generally from what ive heard on the radio etc... the average bill will be 180 odd % higher by April - deny it, bury your head in the sand all you like - but thats the way its going esp. as we have a zombie govt at this time

Darran

I haven’t called  anyone a liar but have said mine and none of my friends and family have gone up by anything like what he’s quoting , only time will tell what will happen and this time next year we will be in a position to know exact what has and what will happen with energy prices , I said it before and will say it again Joe bloggs stacking shelves in Tesco will not be able to pay bills like this as well as run a car ,pay the mortgage or rent,  buy food , pay water bills , council tax , buy cloths etc , it’s just simply not possible, if no one pays their bills then all the energy companies will go bust so what will happen then ? It’s a right old mess I agree but a group of windows cleaners on a forum can debate this until the cows come home and it won’t make the slightest difference, I personally can afford what ever the cost is but on principle  will not pay those sort of prices end off .

I agree what you're saying about lower paid people not affording their energy bills. This cannot go on indefinitely as no one will be able to afford anything, we'll be going back to the dark ages and just about surviving. How will your principle of not paying the prices work though?

Ime seriously thinking of living in the camper van and leaving the house  empty  for a while been thinking about a long trip away  , or might rent the house out for a few months , I certainly won’t be paying  the predicted  energy costs out of principal , we haven’t made a decision yet  but ime considering all options .

Really?a camper van in the middle of winter?

I don't think you ve thought this through mate!😄

[DJW]

It’s CIU, anything goes on here 

I’m going to leave the house empty and live on a cruise ship for the winter. Probably work out the same as the energy bill.

[Splash & dash]

Soupy was asked - and visually told he was lying that leccy was up 180 odd %

he's proved this to be true - so in all good grace  accept it...

Generally from what ive heard on the radio etc... the average bill will be 180 odd % higher by April - deny it, bury your head in the sand all you like - but thats the way its going esp. as we have a zombie govt at this time

Darran

I haven’t called  anyone a liar but have said mine and none of my friends and family have gone up by anything like what he’s quoting , only time will tell what will happen and this time next year we will be in a position to know exact what has and what will happen with energy prices , I said it before and will say it again Joe bloggs stacking shelves in Tesco will not be able to pay bills like this as well as run a car ,pay the mortgage or rent,  buy food , pay water bills , council tax , buy cloths etc , it’s just simply not possible, if no one pays their bills then all the energy companies will go bust so what will happen then ? It’s a right old mess I agree but a group of windows cleaners on a forum can debate this until the cows come home and it won’t make the slightest difference, I personally can afford what ever the cost is but on principle  will not pay those sort of prices end off .

I agree what you're saying about lower paid people not affording their energy bills. This cannot go on indefinitely as no one will be able to afford anything, we'll be going back to the dark ages and just about surviving. How will your principle of not paying the prices work though?

Ime seriously thinking of living in the camper van and leaving the house  empty  for a while been thinking about a long trip away  , or might rent the house out for a few months , I certainly won’t be paying  the predicted  energy costs out of principal , we haven’t made a decision yet  but ime considering all options .

Really?a camper van in the middle of winter?

I don't think you ve thought this through mate!😄

Already got one it’s like living in a house but smaller , fixed double bed , Wabasto heating , shower and toilet swivel front seats  two more travel seats , very comfortable, 600 watt so,ar charging lithium batteries can permanently live off grid in it . I want to go around Europe for 12 months but with work cannot do it at the moment .

[DJW]

I’ve got a damper van. It has a 650l water tank, two batteries and three seats. Only sleep in it during lunch breaks.

[AuRavelling79]

I’ve got a damper van. It has a 650l water tank, two batteries and three seats. Only sleep in it during lunch breaks.

Maybe the tank is leaking? 

[NBwcs]

And you can take off the government help that comes in too. And so will your customers.

No government help announced for commercial accounts. No cap either.

Just nipped into a local butchers, just a small shop, and overheard the owner saying. His electric bill alone for the. Business has gone up £1000 a month.
There's alot of businesses out there waiting with baited breath to see what the new pm will do. And a lot are in far more danger than us. Not good times.

[Arnold Palmer]

And you can take off the government help that comes in too. And so will your customers.

No government help announced for commercial accounts. No cap either.

Just nipped into a local butchers, just a small shop, and overheard the owner saying. His electric bill alone for the. Business has gone up £1000 a month.
There's alot of businesses out there waiting with baited breath to see what the new pm will do. And a lot are in far more danger than us. Not good times.

Some aren't waiting.

I see Brewdog just shut 6 bars.

https://news.sky.com/story/brewdog-to-close-six-pubs-due-to-spiralling-costs-and-no-prospect-of-help-from-clueless-government-12686261

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

I always thought everyone was on £500 a day here?

[mike1986]

And you can take off the government help that comes in too. And so will your customers.

No government help announced for commercial accounts. No cap either.

Just nipped into a local butchers, just a small shop, and overheard the owner saying. His electric bill alone for the. Business has gone up £1000 a month.
There's alot of businesses out there waiting with baited breath to see what the new pm will do. And a lot are in far more danger than us. Not good times.

 🤥 no way his electric bill has gone up 1k a month

[simon w]

And you can take off the government help that comes in too. And so will your customers.

No government help announced for commercial accounts. No cap either.

Just nipped into a local butchers, just a small shop, and overheard the owner saying. His electric bill alone for the. Business has gone up £1000 a month.
There's alot of businesses out there waiting with baited breath to see what the new pm will do. And a lot are in far more danger than us. Not good times.

 🤥 no way his electric bill has gone up 1k a month

Probably his tenants growing dope up in the loft above