[zesty]

I want to know what it costs you per month or year if easier.

Include water rate

All your filters/maintenance

New RO etc

Resin

The whole lot, let me know what it costs you. Preferably from those who are in hard water areas.

I’m deciding whether to carry on buying from a mate who a 5 min drive away, or produce my own.

I only pay him £15 for 700l and I’ve not got any of the faff of maintenance or new filters etc.

I’m unconvinced it’ll be better to purify myself, but I may do if it works out considerably cheaper.

[Stoots]

£15 for 700l is steep.

I use about 2 bags of resin a year and a set of filters a year so 300 quid ish.

I'm not on a water meter and pay 400 odd quid a year for that.

So £750 a year ish.

I maybe use 2000l of pure a week so 4000l from the tap.

All very rough estimates.


I did work it out once when I was on a water meter at my last house and total cost came to about £130 a month then.

[zesty]

That 700l lasts me 2-3 days easy 

[Stoots]

That 700l lasts me 2-3 days easy 

Jeez ive used about 550l today 

[JandS]

What's your TDS  Adam mine's only about 85/90 so just use double di vessels......bag of resin earns me about £6k.

[Smudger]

I want to know what it costs you per month or year if easier.

Include water rate

All your filters/maintenance

New RO etc

Resin

The whole lot, let me know what it costs you. Preferably from those who are in hard water areas.

I’m deciding whether to carry on buying from a mate who a 5 min drive away, or produce my own.

I only pay him £15 for 700l and I’ve not got any of the faff of maintenance or new filters etc.

I’m unconvinced it’ll be better to purify myself, but I may do if it works out considerably cheaper.

Stop being a nosey bar steward   

Approx £60 a year on filters
Membrane 1 x 18 months (225.00)  so £150 a year
water comes in at around £1350 a year - thats producing 3,000 Ltrs a day Monday to Friday
(I don't pay for waste back to sewer)
Electric - Unsure its £80 a month to run the pump - immersion  hot water tank and lights  in the unit - so say £30for the pump
thats £360 a year

Total spend £1920 for 750,000 ltrs of pure

I think 

[Stoots]

What's your TDS  Adam mine's only about 85/90 so just use double di vessels......bag of resin earns me about £6k.

It fluctuates a lot in wakefield. I've seen it anywhere from 80 to 300.

More often than not it seems to be in the 200s.

[JandS]

Yes I thought it was the same in Wakey as round here when I decided to fill up at wife's friends house whose windows I clean.
Filled up and then tested it and it was reading 27 in tank, it had burnt through my resin.....coming out of tap was 280......that was in Ossett less than 4 miles away.

[H2GoKent]

The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true

[Lee GLS]

I use 550-600 cubic Meters a year, I use roughly 3-400 a day 3/4 days a week. I don’t bother with resin anymore and my ro lasts roughly 3/4 years so £50 year on filters, £550 year on water, I never touch the ro until this filters need changing.

[Splash & dash]

£15 for 700l is steep.

I use about 2 bags of resin a year and a set of filters a year so 300 quid ish.

I'm not on a water meter and pay 400 odd quid a year for that.

So £750 a year ish.

I maybe use 2000l of pure a week so 4000l from the tap.

All very rough estimates.


I did work it out once when I was on a water meter at my last house and total cost came to about £130 a month then.

£15 for 700 ltr of pure is very cheap look at spotless waters charges they are about £40 for 1000 ltr

[Stoots]

The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true

Yes of course you would say that 

You know full well you are not better off buying. You have extra fuel cost to go fill up for a start and at current fuel prices you could well spend £5/£10 or more driving just to get your water.

Let's take me as an example, nearest spotless water is 15 miles away that's best part of a tenner of fuel plus an hour round trip then god knows what they charge for 500l of pure.

Compare to producing 500l of my own for probably less than a fiver .

[zesty]

£15 for 700l is steep.

I use about 2 bags of resin a year and a set of filters a year so 300 quid ish.

I'm not on a water meter and pay 400 odd quid a year for that.

So £750 a year ish.

I maybe use 2000l of pure a week so 4000l from the tap.

All very rough estimates.


I did work it out once when I was on a water meter at my last house and total cost came to about £130 a month then.

£15 for 700 ltr of pure is very cheap look at spotless waters charges they are about £40 for 1000 ltr

It’s really cheap, I might stay as I am.

[H2GoKent]

The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true

Yes of course you would say that 

You know full well you are not better off buying. You have extra fuel cost to go fill up for a start and at current fuel prices you could well spend £5/£10 or more driving just to get your water.

Let's take me as an example, nearest spotless water is 15 miles away that's best part of a tenner of fuel plus an hour round trip then god knows what they charge for 500l of pure.

Compare to producing 500l of my own for probably less than a fiver .

Depends where in the country you are as well. In some parts of the UK the water is 60ppm, even I wouldn't recommend buying (unless you have access isuues, live in a flat or something) but down here in the South the water is chalky
Down here in Kent our tap water is between 300 and 400 ppm pre treatment, gives your membranes a proper workout, after going through a high quality RO using a good pump our water is still around 8-10ppm so we use a fair bit of resin

[H2GoKent]

The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true

Yes of course you would say that 

You know full well you are not better off buying. You have extra fuel cost to go fill up for a start and at current fuel prices you could well spend £5/£10 or more driving just to get your water.

Let's take me as an example, nearest spotless water is 15 miles away that's best part of a tenner of fuel plus an hour round trip then god knows what they charge for 500l of pure.

Compare to producing 500l of my own for probably less than a fiver .

The use of the phrase 'better off' matters as well. If you save £10 a month by making your own but you spend an hour making it then you are not better off making your own, I don't work for £10 an hour and I'm sure you don't.
It also depends where your fill up is and what if you have people who work for you?
As I said originally it is cheaper to make your own in cash terms, but you're not better off spending time messing about making water and worrying about it if it's going to reduce the amount of time spent earning.
You could service your own van and save money, but is it a good use of your time?
Actually, this isn't a good use of mine 

[Pete Thompson]

Ok this is a good estimate for a weekly cost, I use about 550 litres per day.

My actual water itself costs me £3.10 per cubic metre, and I use about 2,750 litres per week and you will put approx 50% to waste, so the water itself will be around:
(£3.10 x 2) x 2.750 = £17.05

That £3.10 includes the sewerage charge (which is calculated based on usage so you can't avoid it), but does not include standing charges as you have to pay them anyway.

Then I change my prefilters once every 2 months, they cost approx £4.60 for a 10" carbon and about £2 for a 5 micron filter.  So, £3.30 per month is about £77p per week.

Resin, well a 25LTR bag of resin lasts me about 7 months and costs about £100 as my 4040 RO gets the water down to about 9ppm.  Thats about £3.30 per week.

Then there's the RO membranes themselves, mine last about 5 years and cost £316.  So that's £1.21 per week.

So your rough weekly estimate:
Water : £17.05
Prefilters : £0.77
Resin : £3.30
RO Membrane : £1.21

TOTAL WEEKLY COST: £22.33

Or 0.8 p per litre.

As for time spent, switching the water on at the end of the day takes about 20 seconds.

Changing the filters takes about 20 mins every other month

Changing the membrane takes about 40 minutes every 5 years.

Changing the resin about 30 mins every 7 months.

So, total time taken equates to about 15 mins per month.

My advice would never ever be reliant on someone else for something as essential as pure water. Plus it will always always be cheaper to produce yourself.

And what’s this “an hour making it” lol! It takes seconds to switch on.

[zesty]

Ok this is a good estimate for a weekly cost, I use about 550 litres per day.

My actual water itself costs me £3.10 per cubic metre, and I use about 2,750 litres per week and you will put approx 50% to waste, so the water itself will be around:
(£3.10 x 2) x 2.750 = £17.05

That £3.10 includes the sewerage charge (which is calculated based on usage so you can't avoid it), but does not include standing charges as you have to pay them anyway.

Then I change my prefilters once every 2 months, they cost approx £4.60 for a 10" carbon and about £2 for a 5 micron filter.  So, £3.30 per month is about £77p per week.

Resin, well a 25LTR bag of resin lasts me about 7 months and costs about £100 as my 4040 RO gets the water down to about 9ppm.  Thats about £3.30 per week.

Then there's the RO membranes themselves, mine last about 5 years and cost £316.  So that's £1.21 per week.

So your rough weekly estimate:
Water : £17.05
Prefilters : £0.77
Resin : £3.30
RO Membrane : £1.21

TOTAL WEEKLY COST: £22.33

Or 0.8 p per litre.

As for time spent, switching the water on at the end of the day takes about 20 seconds.

Changing the filters takes about 20 mins every other month

Changing the membrane takes about 40 minutes every 5 years.

Changing the resin about 30 mins every 7 months.

So, total time taken equates to about 15 mins per month.

My advice would never ever be reliant on someone else for something as essential as pure water. Plus it will always always be cheaper to produce yourself.

And what’s this “an hour making it” lol! It takes seconds to switch on.

Interesting.

I’ve got no worries with relying on my mate, he’s defo not going to suddenly stop me buying it. He’s well happy with it, it’s extra cash for him and we’re good mates anyway.

I don’t use much water, I’ve got a 750litre tank, so I fill up when I have around 50 litres left, so I get around 700l for £15, that can last me 3,4 even 5 days depending on my work.

On that basis, it seems like It’s easier to buy it, I am in one of the hardest water areas in the country, so having the ease of no filter changes and faff seems beneficial, even if it is a bit more expensive…

Thanks for the info, very helpful 👍🏼

[Splash & dash]

The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true

Yes of course you would say that 

You know full well you are not better off buying. You have extra fuel cost to go fill up for a start and at current fuel prices you could well spend £5/£10 or more driving just to get your water.

Let's take me as an example, nearest spotless water is 15 miles away that's best part of a tenner of fuel plus an hour round trip then god knows what they charge for 500l of pure.

Compare to producing 500l of my own for probably less than a fiver .

The use of the phrase 'better off' matters as well. If you save £10 a month by making your own but you spend an hour making it then you are not better off making your own, I don't work for £10 an hour and I'm sure you don't.
It also depends where your fill up is and what if you have people who work for you?
As I said originally it is cheaper to make your own in cash terms, but you're not better off spending time messing about making water and worrying about it if it's going to reduce the amount of time spent earning.
You could service your own van and save money, but is it a good use of your time?
Actually, this isn't a good use of mine 

But it doesn’t take any time at all to make water , just connect one hose to the van plug in the mains power turn on tap and booster pump and it does  it all it’s self, and switches off when the tanks are full , I fill 3 vans a day and it takes 5 muinits .

[Splash & dash]

Ok this is a good estimate for a weekly cost, I use about 550 litres per day.

My actual water itself costs me £3.10 per cubic metre, and I use about 2,750 litres per week and you will put approx 50% to waste, so the water itself will be around:
(£3.10 x 2) x 2.750 = £17.05

That £3.10 includes the sewerage charge (which is calculated based on usage so you can't avoid it), but does not include standing charges as you have to pay them anyway.

Then I change my prefilters once every 2 months, they cost approx £4.60 for a 10" carbon and about £2 for a 5 micron filter.  So, £3.30 per month is about £77p per week.

Resin, well a 25LTR bag of resin lasts me about 7 months and costs about £100 as my 4040 RO gets the water down to about 9ppm.  Thats about £3.30 per week.

Then there's the RO membranes themselves, mine last about 5 years and cost £316.  So that's £1.21 per week.

So your rough weekly estimate:
Water : £17.05
Prefilters : £0.77
Resin : £3.30
RO Membrane : £1.21

TOTAL WEEKLY COST: £22.33

Or 0.8 p per litre.

As for time spent, switching the water on at the end of the day takes about 20 seconds.

Changing the filters takes about 20 mins every other month

Changing the membrane takes about 40 minutes every 5 years.

Changing the resin about 30 mins every 7 months.

So, total time taken equates to about 15 mins per month.

My advice would never ever be reliant on someone else for something as essential as pure water. Plus it will always always be cheaper to produce yourself.

And what’s this “an hour making it” lol! It takes seconds to switch on.

I have a separate  meter and only pay  for the water no sewage charge on the water for the van works out a lot cheaper

[H2GoKent]

And what’s this “an hour making it” lol! It takes seconds to switch on.

The guy describes all the various processes to make water and how long they take and then says the above.
That's the hour I'm talking about 

Trust me if you live in a hard water area it's not as easy to get the water down to the right ppm, but as I said  of course it is cheaper to make your own, depends on how you like to spend your time. If you buy you can easily price the small extra cost into your work