[Stoots]

£2.15 a litre I've just paid this morning 

I put the good stuff in by accident 

[Splash & dash]

Local audi dealer and bmw dealer both said to replace the battery’s is 2/3 the cost of the vehicle on an average  its a complex job to replace them apparently it involves removing most  of the interior of the vehicle . I should have added that they did say at vehicle age of 6-8 years so it’s not cost effective to replace them .

I find it strange that dealers are talking replacement after 8 years when Consumer Reports (US equivalent of Which) are talking 200,000 miles. (https://www.myev.com/research/ev-101/how-long-should-an-electric-cars-battery-last/amp)

I don't have a dog in this fight: I have a diesel car and a diesel van and I'll run them till they die.

One thing I do think is happening: battery technology is changing very fast indeed and I suspect that "facts" are quoted by people that are well out of date. Then you end up with people hearing that "it takes 300,000 miles to break even on an EV." It gets repeated and repeated until eventually it's believed regardless of how wrong it is.

When technology is moving fast you have to keep up with the changes as much as you can.

I think the manufacturers and dealers are in the best position to know ware technology is going , and it’s life span  and replacement costs , there isn’t enough lithium in the world anyway to  support all the needs for vehicle batteries , they are starting to develop a different type of battery to replace it I cannot remember what it’s called  but again all this is in its infancy.

[Perfect Windows]

Nature, (again, the first source I found) doesn't agree with you about lithium supplies.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02222-1

With the amount of money going into battery research, I suspect one of dozens of technologies could end up paying off. Some don't even use lithium as a component, preferring sodium (ludicrously abundant) and some using neither.



Vin

[Splash & dash]

Nature, (again, the first source I found) doesn't agree with you about lithium supplies.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02222-1

With the amount of money going into battery research, I suspect one of dozens of technologies could end up paying off. Some don't even use lithium as a component, preferring sodium (ludicrously abundant) and some using neither.



Vin

You are waisted as a window cleaner think you should go into manufacturing 😂😂😂😂😂

[dazmond]

I might just buy a new diesel van in 2029 and run it until retirement...I'll be 59 by then with probably 20 years left(I'll retire fully by 80 health permitting of course)

[G Griffin]

I might just buy a new diesel van in 2029 and run it until retirement...I'll be 59 by then with probably 20 years left(I'll retire fully by 80 health permitting of course)

The best laid plans of mice and men......

[AuRavelling79]

Nature, (again, the first source I found) doesn't agree with you about lithium supplies.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02222-1

With the amount of money going into battery research, I suspect one of dozens of technologies could end up paying off. Some don't even use lithium as a component, preferring sodium (ludicrously abundant) and some using neither.



Vin

You are waisted as a window cleaner think you should go into manufacturing 😂😂😂😂😂

Only if he has the stomach for it. 

[deeege]

I might just buy a new diesel van in 2029 and run it until retirement...I'll be 59 by then with probably 20 years left(I'll retire fully by 80 health permitting of course)

Good luck with that Daz.

[dazmond]

I might just buy a new diesel van in 2029 and run it until retirement...I'll be 59 by then with probably 20 years left(I'll retire fully by 80 health permitting of course)

The best laid plans of mice and men......

The guy I used to work for back in 1992 is still going and so is the other local cleaner(79 and 78 respectively).they look great for their age and are fit and healthy.they both only work mornings though these days...

[deeege]

I might just buy a new diesel van in 2029 and run it until retirement...I'll be 59 by then with probably 20 years left(I'll retire fully by 80 health permitting of course)

The best laid plans of mice and men......

The guy I used to work for back in 1992 is still going and so is the other local cleaner(79 and 78 respectively).they look great for their age and are fit and healthy.they both only work mornings though these days...

They are outliers Daz. The average person is nowhere near capable of doing a manual job at 75+ years of age. It’s possible, but I wouldn’t set your retirement plans on it happening.

[dazmond]

I might just buy a new diesel van in 2029 and run it until retirement...I'll be 59 by then with probably 20 years left(I'll retire fully by 80 health permitting of course)

The best laid plans of mice and men......

The guy I used to work for back in 1992 is still going and so is the other local cleaner(79 and 78 respectively).they look great for their age and are fit and healthy.they both only work mornings though these days...

They are outliers Daz. The average person is nowhere near capable of doing a manual job at 75+ years of age. It’s possible, but I wouldn’t set your retirement plans on it happening.

I don't class myself as an 'average' person as you put it.....most of my drinking buddies and a few school mates are already dead mate unfortunately.....not everyone makes it to 50 years of age....

Working outside and doing an active job keeps us healthy.....its sitting down all day that knocks the nails in your coffin early!

[deeege]

I might just buy a new diesel van in 2029 and run it until retirement...I'll be 59 by then with probably 20 years left(I'll retire fully by 80 health permitting of course)

The best laid plans of mice and men......

The guy I used to work for back in 1992 is still going and so is the other local cleaner(79 and 78 respectively).they look great for their age and are fit and healthy.they both only work mornings though these days...

They are outliers Daz. The average person is nowhere near capable of doing a manual job at 75+ years of age. It’s possible, but I wouldn’t set your retirement plans on it happening.

I don't class myself as an 'average' person as you put it.....most of my drinking buddies and a few school mates are already dead mate unfortunately.....not everyone makes it to 50 years of age....

Working outside and doing an active job keeps us healthy.....its sitting down all day that knocks the nails in your coffin early!

I’d bet good money that you’ve had more time off work with muscular injuries in the last 5 years that the average 50 year old manual worker.  Tweeking your back, foot injuries etc etc

You may think you’re invincible Daz but all these niggles you’ve had will come back to bite you in the ass when you get to 70+.

Good luck anyway, personally I hope I’m long retired and comfortable when I’m 75.

[dazmond]

I might just buy a new diesel van in 2029 and run it until retirement...I'll be 59 by then with probably 20 years left(I'll retire fully by 80 health permitting of course)

The best laid plans of mice and men......

The guy I used to work for back in 1992 is still going and so is the other local cleaner(79 and 78 respectively).they look great for their age and are fit and healthy.they both only work mornings though these days...

They are outliers Daz. The average person is nowhere near capable of doing a manual job at 75+ years of age. It’s possible, but I wouldn’t set your retirement plans on it happening.

I don't class myself as an 'average' person as you put it.....most of my drinking buddies and a few school mates are already dead mate unfortunately.....not everyone makes it to 50 years of age....

Working outside and doing an active job keeps us healthy.....its sitting down all day that knocks the nails in your coffin early!

I’d bet good money that you’ve had more time off work with muscular injuries in the last 5 years that the average 50 year old manual worker.  Tweeking your back, foot injuries etc etc

You may think you’re invincible Daz but all these niggles you’ve had will come back to bite you in the ass when you get to 70+.

Good luck anyway, personally I hope I’m long retired and comfortable when I’m 75.

I've had 2 weeks off in 5 years with slight injuries....one with my back and one with my foot....

Granted there are no guarantees but your making out as if window cleaning is a heavy manual job which it isnt....its easy these days with light poles and no collecting....

and the beauty of it is you can cut down your hours to suit...

I never want to retire fully and I won't until I'm forced to through illness or injury.....

My dad was still working at 74 before lung cancer killed him(63 years of smoking and he drank fairly heavily)he d never been ill in his life before then!

[deeege]

I might just buy a new diesel van in 2029 and run it until retirement...I'll be 59 by then with probably 20 years left(I'll retire fully by 80 health permitting of course)

The best laid plans of mice and men......

The guy I used to work for back in 1992 is still going and so is the other local cleaner(79 and 78 respectively).they look great for their age and are fit and healthy.they both only work mornings though these days...

They are outliers Daz. The average person is nowhere near capable of doing a manual job at 75+ years of age. It’s possible, but I wouldn’t set your retirement plans on it happening.

I don't class myself as an 'average' person as you put it.....most of my drinking buddies and a few school mates are already dead mate unfortunately.....not everyone makes it to 50 years of age....

Working outside and doing an active job keeps us healthy.....its sitting down all day that knocks the nails in your coffin early!

I’d bet good money that you’ve had more time off work with muscular injuries in the last 5 years that the average 50 year old manual worker.  Tweeking your back, foot injuries etc etc

You may think you’re invincible Daz but all these niggles you’ve had will come back to bite you in the ass when you get to 70+.

Good luck anyway, personally I hope I’m long retired and comfortable when I’m 75.

I've had 2 weeks off in 5 years with slight injuries....one with my back and one with my foot....

You’ve just had 2 weeks off with a foot injury. Then last year you had atleast 2 weeks off with back/neck muscle problems. Then you also did some ankle ligaments and was off for 3-4 weeks. There’s probably been numerous others which I’m forgetting also. 

[DJW]

Don’t mention the heart trouble!

Keep taking the blueberries.

[DJW]

and the Covid! Sound like a pretty sickly specimen to me. Just average really.

[dazmond]

I might just buy a new diesel van in 2029 and run it until retirement...I'll be 59 by then with probably 20 years left(I'll retire fully by 80 health permitting of course)

The best laid plans of mice and men......

The guy I used to work for back in 1992 is still going and so is the other local cleaner(79 and 78 respectively).they look great for their age and are fit and healthy.they both only work mornings though these days...

They are outliers Daz. The average person is nowhere near capable of doing a manual job at 75+ years of age. It’s possible, but I wouldn’t set your retirement plans on it happening.

I don't class myself as an 'average' person as you put it.....most of my drinking buddies and a few school mates are already dead mate unfortunately.....not everyone makes it to 50 years of age....

Working outside and doing an active job keeps us healthy.....its sitting down all day that knocks the nails in your coffin early!

I’d bet good money that you’ve had more time off work with muscular injuries in the last 5 years that the average 50 year old manual worker.  Tweeking your back, foot injuries etc etc

You may think you’re invincible Daz but all these niggles you’ve had will come back to bite you in the ass when you get to 70+.

Good luck anyway, personally I hope I’m long retired and comfortable when I’m 75.

I've had 2 weeks off in 5 years with slight injuries....one with my back and one with my foot....

You’ve just had 2 weeks off with a foot injury. Then last year you had atleast 2 weeks off with back/neck muscle problems. Then you also did some ankle ligaments and was off for 3-4 weeks. There’s probably been numerous others which I’m forgetting also. 

Nope!...one week off for foot...the ankle ligaments were playing football 12 years ago!🤣🤣🤣....you said the last 5 years!😄

Back problem was 2020....2 years ago!only took a week off then too...

[dazmond]

and the Covid! Sound like a pretty sickly specimen to me. Just average really.

I worked all week with covid....😉

[G Griffin]

and the Covid! Sound like a pretty sickly specimen to me. Just average really.

I worked all week with covid....😉

Record week?

[KS Cleaning]

and the Covid! Sound like a pretty sickly specimen to me. Just average really.

I worked all week with covid....😉

Record week?

🤣🤣