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Shrek

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Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2022, 09:14:50 am »
If someone has to send thousands of reminders then they’ve got a crap customer base . I send around 2 per hundred per month. Probably why I can’t justify the cost. Takes minutes while I’m sat on the bog 🚽 on the last day of the month.

theres only me and my rolling debt is usually around a grand so can only assume with 10 vans it would be 10 grand, would much rather have them all on go cardless for my own sanity.

Wow , I might have 1 or 2 customers that are on holiday and it rolls over to the next month but it’s never more than £60 for me!

Really?my rolling debt list is usually around the £500-£1000 mark at any one time...I've just had a week off so it got down to £300....

Sometimes it's as high as £1500 but it all comes in eventually.some 4 weekly customers don't pay for 2 or 3 months and some commercial its usually 28 days....

That’s terrible, obviously your customers don’t respect your payment rules as much as mine do.
I wouldn’t say it’s something to brag about either 😂

Slacky

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Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2022, 02:28:52 pm »
Its not worth using when you have 400 customers,  if you had 4000 and need the cashflow for wages it might be a different story.

It’s be cheaper to pay a part timer £15 an hour for 10 hours a week (2 x 5 hour days or something like that)  every week to sort payments out - £7800 a year.

Go cardless for 4000 customers a month - £10,080 a year.

Unless my figures are out …

Yes it may be cheaper (ive not done the numbers either) but i would have thought when you had 10 staff its more a cashflow thing, it would stress me out with loads of wages to pay and having to send reminders every week with thousands outstanding. Plus its always better to automate processes vs employ someone to do it which is open to human error.

If you had 10 plus staff and paid that kind of % to something like GoCardless that’s a huge amount per annum.

Its all relative.

NWH

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Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2022, 03:51:06 pm »
I wouldn’t say it is at 25-30% if you’re annual income no not really.

dazmond

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Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2022, 07:59:13 pm »
If someone has to send thousands of reminders then they’ve got a crap customer base . I send around 2 per hundred per month. Probably why I can’t justify the cost. Takes minutes while I’m sat on the bog 🚽 on the last day of the month.

theres only me and my rolling debt is usually around a grand so can only assume with 10 vans it would be 10 grand, would much rather have them all on go cardless for my own sanity.

Wow , I might have 1 or 2 customers that are on holiday and it rolls over to the next month but it’s never more than £60 for me!

Really?my rolling debt list is usually around the £500-£1000 mark at any one time...I've just had a week off so it got down to £300....

Sometimes it's as high as £1500 but it all comes in eventually.some 4 weekly customers don't pay for 2 or 3 months and some commercial its usually 28 days....

That’s terrible, obviously your customers don’t respect your payment rules as much as mine do.
I wouldn’t say it’s something to brag about either 😂

The more money I earn the more I'm owed....it really isn't terrible as I don't live hand to mouth like I used to....I see it as money in the bank
price higher/work harder!

Shrek

  • Posts: 3931
Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2022, 08:13:06 pm »
If someone has to send thousands of reminders then they’ve got a crap customer base . I send around 2 per hundred per month. Probably why I can’t justify the cost. Takes minutes while I’m sat on the bog 🚽 on the last day of the month.

theres only me and my rolling debt is usually around a grand so can only assume with 10 vans it would be 10 grand, would much rather have them all on go cardless for my own sanity.

Wow , I might have 1 or 2 customers that are on holiday and it rolls over to the next month but it’s never more than £60 for me!

Really?my rolling debt list is usually around the £500-£1000 mark at any one time...I've just had a week off so it got down to £300....

Sometimes it's as high as £1500 but it all comes in eventually.some 4 weekly customers don't pay for 2 or 3 months and some commercial its usually 28 days....

That’s terrible, obviously your customers don’t respect your payment rules as much as mine do.
I wouldn’t say it’s something to brag about either 😂

The more money I earn the more I'm owed....it really isn't terrible as I don't live hand to mouth like I used to....I see it as money in the bank

How does that work? So jobs 1-200 pay you on time , then jobs 201-350 pay you when they like?
Surely you say to every customer that payment is to be made within 5 days/2 weeks/ by the end of the month?

jonboywalton75

  • Posts: 2222
Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2022, 08:14:28 pm »
If someone has to send thousands of reminders then they’ve got a crap customer base . I send around 2 per hundred per month. Probably why I can’t justify the cost. Takes minutes while I’m sat on the bog 🚽 on the last day of the month.

theres only me and my rolling debt is usually around a grand so can only assume with 10 vans it would be 10 grand, would much rather have them all on go cardless for my own sanity.

Wow , I might have 1 or 2 customers that are on holiday and it rolls over to the next month but it’s never more than £60 for me!

Really?my rolling debt list is usually around the £500-£1000 mark at any one time...I've just had a week off so it got down to £300....

Sometimes it's as high as £1500 but it all comes in eventually.some 4 weekly customers don't pay for 2 or 3 months and some commercial its usually 28 days....


I'm same as u Daz, basically I'm approx 10 days waiting on an average job.
I used to wait a month to get paid at ICI, so I'm ahead on that 😁

Shrek

  • Posts: 3931
Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2022, 09:01:16 pm »
If someone has to send thousands of reminders then they’ve got a crap customer base . I send around 2 per hundred per month. Probably why I can’t justify the cost. Takes minutes while I’m sat on the bog 🚽 on the last day of the month.

theres only me and my rolling debt is usually around a grand so can only assume with 10 vans it would be 10 grand, would much rather have them all on go cardless for my own sanity.

Wow , I might have 1 or 2 customers that are on holiday and it rolls over to the next month but it’s never more than £60 for me!

Really?my rolling debt list is usually around the £500-£1000 mark at any one time...I've just had a week off so it got down to £300....

Sometimes it's as high as £1500 but it all comes in eventually.some 4 weekly customers don't pay for 2 or 3 months and some commercial its usually 28 days....


I'm same as u Daz, basically I'm approx 10 days waiting on an average job.
I used to wait a month to get paid at ICI, so I'm ahead on that 😁

How is that the same as dazmond? He just said he has 4 weekly customers paying after 3 months 😂

JandS

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Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2022, 09:28:36 pm »
I have 12 customers outstanding from last week which was a school holiday so some will have been away.......tomorrow night I'll send text reminders out which will take around a couple of minutes.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

dazmond

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Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2022, 09:06:41 am »
If someone has to send thousands of reminders then they’ve got a crap customer base . I send around 2 per hundred per month. Probably why I can’t justify the cost. Takes minutes while I’m sat on the bog 🚽 on the last day of the month.

theres only me and my rolling debt is usually around a grand so can only assume with 10 vans it would be 10 grand, would much rather have them all on go cardless for my own sanity.

Wow , I might have 1 or 2 customers that are on holiday and it rolls over to the next month but it’s never more than £60 for me!

Really?my rolling debt list is usually around the £500-£1000 mark at any one time...I've just had a week off so it got down to £300....

Sometimes it's as high as £1500 but it all comes in eventually.some 4 weekly customers don't pay for 2 or 3 months and some commercial its usually 28 days....

That’s terrible, obviously your customers don’t respect your payment rules as much as mine do.
I wouldn’t say it’s something to brag about either 😂

The more money I earn the more I'm owed....it really isn't terrible as I don't live hand to mouth like I used to....I see it as money in the bank

How does that work? So jobs 1-200 pay you on time , then jobs 201-350 pay you when they like?
Surely you say to every customer that payment is to be made within 5 days/2 weeks/ by the end of the month?

14 days I stipulate on my tickets but don't forget the work I've just cleaned in the last week or so and some of this will owe 2 cleans...

Honestly it really doesn't matter as I have a constant drip of money dropping into my account 365 days a year
price higher/work harder!

jonboywalton75

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Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2022, 10:02:22 am »
If someone has to send thousands of reminders then they’ve got a crap customer base . I send around 2 per hundred per month. Probably why I can’t justify the cost. Takes minutes while I’m sat on the bog 🚽 on the last day of the month.

theres only me and my rolling debt is usually around a grand so can only assume with 10 vans it would be 10 grand, would much rather have them all on go cardless for my own sanity.

Wow , I might have 1 or 2 customers that are on holiday and it rolls over to the next month but it’s never more than £60 for me!

Really?my rolling debt list is usually around the £500-£1000 mark at any one time...I've just had a week off so it got down to £300....

Sometimes it's as high as £1500 but it all comes in eventually.some 4 weekly customers don't pay for 2 or 3 months and some commercial its usually 28 days....


I'm same as u Daz, basically I'm approx 10 days waiting on an average job.
I used to wait a month to get paid at ICI, so I'm ahead on that 😁

How is that the same as dazmond? He just said he has 4 weekly customers paying after 3 months 😂

My debts are usually running at £6 - £800, similar to Daz
Having said that, just looked at cleaner planner and it's about £1200 at the moment, but that's cos I've worked very hard this week
Equates to just over a week waiting for payment, I'll take that 👍

Shrek

  • Posts: 3931
Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2022, 10:30:05 am »
   All my jobs from job no. 1 to job no. 400 pay within 5 days of cleaning, even the big commercial job I do. Many months I’m owed £0 at the end of the month 🙂

jonboywalton75

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Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2022, 11:12:03 am »
   All my jobs from job no. 1 to job no. 400 pay within 5 days of cleaning, even the big commercial job I do. Many months I’m owed £0 at the end of the month 🙂

Sounds great, not many on here can say that
I'm also like Daz that when i have time off my debt list reduces to almost nothing

deeege

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Re: Been living in the dark ages... What are must have items
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2022, 03:53:26 pm »
Debt list is usually around £4-5k but that is heavily skewed by a couple big monthly commercial jobs that are 60 days payment.

Regular work it’s currently £1446.00
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."