[mike1986]

There’s 2 of these in Cardiff now just popped up. They both have very small allocated areas which would be very difficult to build a sizeable round in if confined to those areas only, however the website makes this statement:

As a guide, you can expect estimated profits – not just turnover – of around £30,000 in year 1, £60,000+ in year 2 and up to £100K in year 3.

£100k PROFIT in year 3 😳 how do people fall for this stuff? 🤷‍♂️😂  Also wondering how to they get away with making  statements like that which would be impossible to deliver

[deeege]

Are these the fellas that have ‘FREE CLEAN OFFER’ in big lettering across the bonnet of their vans? Always makes me laugh when I see them about.

[NWH]

There’s 2 of these in Cardiff now just popped up. They both have very small allocated areas which would be very difficult to build a sizeable round in if confined to those areas only, however the website makes this statement:

As a guide, you can expect estimated profits – not just turnover – of around £30,000 in year 1, £60,000+ in year 2 and up to £100K in year 3.

£100k PROFIT in year 3 😳 how do people fall for this stuff? 🤷‍♂️😂  Also wondering how to they get away with making  statements like that which would be impossible to deliver

Mike go easy on em m8 you do know there’s 24hrs in the day you can work don’t you and I have it on a first hand basis that the 100k a year is cream work stand alone keypad entry stuff,they used to say 1 born every minute I’m starting to think it may be a higher number than that 🤣.
You would only ever sell that to someone that has no idea-clue-foggiest about window cleaning m8.

[DJW]

What they are saying is that it’s a scalable multivan  business so in theory you could hit £100k a year if you have enough employees and vans. You could put those kind of claims for any business.
£16500 + vat start up cost and that includes the DEPOSIT on a van.
Sounds a bit like pyramid selling. The guy at the top does very well according to Companies House

[Stoots]

Seen these about, they seem to be doing really well with multiple franchisees.

Their marketting is brilliant, website is really slick, they seem to know what they are doing.

Not sure why people feel the need to knock others doing well, fair play to them

[NWH]

I’ve seen the guy that owns this business let me know if you see him too will you I need a word with him, MODDED

[NWH]

Before he got in to window cleaning he was selling fishing rods and ice trays to the Eskimos or just any old fool that wanted parting  with their 💰,some people just want to hear you will give them the world why would any strange person advertise or come up to you and offer you that they’d keep quiet yeah.
I could give someone a 1000 worth of work a week tomorrow if they’ve never done the job before they’d have no business in a month.

[cgh window cleaning]

I thought these were down south based around Enfield and Potters bar.

If it's the same one they have been going years, and they do very well.They use this forum.

[deeege]

Seen these about, they seem to be doing really well with multiple franchisees.

Their marketting is brilliant, website is really slick, they seem to know what they are doing.

Not sure why people feel the need to knock others doing well, fair play to them

Is it the ones that advertise a free clean on their van then? I’ve only ever seen the van drivers looking stressed and flustered so I’m guessing not.

[Rob.Hall]

Good set up.
I have a nephew who took out a franchise with them.
He is doing well.
Good back up and training.
Not just windows.
But it's like everything.... You have to put effort and enthusiasm in to get results.

[Stoots]

Seen these about, they seem to be doing really well with multiple franchisees.

Their marketting is brilliant, website is really slick, they seem to know what they are doing.

Not sure why people feel the need to knock others doing well, fair play to them

Is it the ones that advertise a free clean on their van then? I’ve only ever seen the van drivers looking stressed and flustered so I’m guessing not.

I think you are referring to UK window clean, they are or were leeds based.  See their free window clean leaflets all over.  Their drivers do look like theyve been dragged out of the job centre   

[jo5hm4n]

I've personally dealt with 2 Franchisees from My Window Cleaner with the services that i offer and i can tell you that their business model is really good and the Franchisees are making very good money.

These guys are definitely in the top tier of franchise window cleaners in the UK.  They are really doing well.

[NWH]

I couldn’t disagree with anything you’ve said above but you have to look at it as an overall picture that’s all I’ve ever said,certain people it will suit others they will think they’ve been duped and in a lot of cases they have been.
Lot of genuine people selling a start up business like ours but I have heard 1-2 stories from people that have invested,not heard anything bad about the few on hear that offer it though.

[mike1986]

I wasn’t stating they were a bad company,  my point was the 100k per year profit (profit not turnover remember) in year 3 projection is beyond crazy and anybody who has experience working in the industry will know that. Particularly when you’re confined to a small area. It’s deliberately misleading

[mike1986]

I mean let’s be honest, we would all be buying a franchise from them if we believed it to be true wouldn’t we? You’d be a fool not to 😂

[Smudger]

I don’t think you can judge that really - I’m sure in theory you can make 100k by year 3 - after all look at  those on here - doing 4 hour days and working 3 maybe 4 day weeks for 70k a year - apply that to doing say a 39 hour week then anything is possible …

Some people are more motivated than others - if you get 3 franchises up and running the skys the limit

Whether in reality it can be done is another matter ….

Darran

[zesty]

I don’t think you can judge that really - I’m sure in theory you can make 100k by year 3 - after all look at  those on here - doing 4 hour days and working 3 maybe 4 day weeks for 70k a year - apply that to doing say a 39 hour week then anything is possible …

Some people are more motivated than others - if you get 3 franchises up and running the skys the limit

Whether in reality it can be done is another matter ….

Darran

I wonder if many on here are really earning that darran?

[Pete Thompson]

I just don’t understand why anyone would hand over a certain percentage of their hard earned cash every year to someone else.

Anyone can start up window cleaning, it’s not something that requires special training (much) or a powerful brand. I get the idea of franchising for something like Burger King, it’s a strong brand with a ready made customer base.

But there’s no such thing for window cleaning.

I would guess that by the 3rd year, a franchisee is going to be pretty fed up handing over their profit once they themselves have the knowledge and experience to do it on their own. And they’ll also be fed up being restricted in the areas they can work.

I’d be very surprised if the lifespan of a franchisee was beyond 3 years. After that they’re surely going to break away and go it alone, taking the customer base with them (as customers don’t belong to anyone)

[NWH]

You still need some level of business sense to be a window cleaner  give some credit lol,if you say that about someone that’s done it on their own and built it up  then what does that say about the person that buys in.

[NWH]

It’s not that hard in window cleaning to build a good brand and stand out.