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Steve Weatherley

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Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« on: April 11, 2022, 08:55:29 pm »
Does anyone use these? I have been using version 1 and been happy with it but now see they have updated it....

Splash & dash

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2022, 10:34:33 pm »
Does anyone use these? I have been using version 1 and been happy with it but now see they have updated it....


We use the original and love it dont like the look of the new ones and won’t be using them

Steve Weatherley

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2022, 05:41:25 am »
Thanks. I've been using the version 1 for 2 years and also love it.
I've just ordered the new version to try out. As I have a two man setup I will have one on each version. So will be able to make a comparison

Splash & dash

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2022, 08:28:03 am »
I think the new version will be prone to disconcerting as the fitting enters the pole and also it will be very  clinked hitting the end of the pole

Steve Weatherley

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2022, 07:39:02 pm »
I used mine all day today and didn't seem to have any disconnecting issues as it went up the pole. I have a uni valve fitted also and there were no issues with switching on or off. The only slight issue I had was when connecting it to my old female connector on the main hose reel sometimes it failed to connect but I think this is probably because it's still the old female connector

Splash & dash

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2022, 07:42:57 pm »
I used mine all day today and didn't seem to have any disconnecting issues as it went up the pole. I have a uni valve fitted also and there were no issues with switching on or off. The only slight issue I had was when connecting it to my old female connector on the main hose reel sometimes it failed to connect but I think this is probably because it's still the old female connector


Ime guessing it takes two hands to attach it rather than one when the fitting is just inside the pole ???

Steve Weatherley

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2022, 07:51:24 pm »
Think you may have misunderstood me.
My male connector is on the end of hosetail that sticks out of the end of the pole by 6 inches instead of version one of tubeless where it was inside the pole. The female connector is on the end of my main hosereel and sits inside the black cover (I forget it's name).
I did have to lean the pole up against a wall or rest it on something like a wheelie bin in order to be able to connect the pole as it did indeed take 2 hands. Personally I didn't feel inconvenienced by this though.
Hope this info is useful

Ortsa

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2022, 07:54:44 pm »
The new version is a load of poope and I don't know why they've done it.

Steve Weatherley

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2022, 08:11:11 pm »
Ortsa I'm curious to hear your reasons. I'm only one day into using it so have little evidence to agree or disagree.

Splash & dash

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2022, 08:53:33 pm »
Think you may have misunderstood me.
My male connector is on the end of hosetail that sticks out of the end of the pole by 6 inches instead of version one of tubeless where it was inside the pole. The female connector is on the end of my main hosereel and sits inside the black cover (I forget it's name).
I did have to lean the pole up against a wall or rest it on something like a wheelie bin in order to be able to connect the pole as it did indeed take 2 hands. Personally I didn't feel inconvenienced by this though.
Hope this info is useful



No I understand fully what you are saying I tried the hose tails sticking out of the end of the pole myself years ago didn’t like it at all , but with the fitting in section one of the pole and pushing the ejected sleeve up into the pole works a treat , I have converted all 28 of our poles to this it is brilliant very quick and easy

Splash & dash

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2022, 08:54:52 pm »
The new version is a load of poope and I don't know why they've done it.

Totally agree I made a set up like that 15 years ago waist of time

Ortsa

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2022, 09:34:57 pm »
Ortsa I'm curious to hear your reasons. I'm only one day into using it so have little evidence to agree or disagree.
To quote one of my posts elsewhere
'You now can't easily and smoothly connect and disconnect with your pole in one hand and your hose in the other, now you've got 6 inches of hose dangling awkwardly from the end of your pole. You've got to put the brush head on the ground to grab hold of this dangling mess and same to disconnect. Also the whole lot is more likely to get caught on the base cap as it goes up into the pole.

At least Gardiner have the decency to continue legacy products for those who need it (when they introduced the new gooseneck for example)

I'll probably end up having to 3d print the bits myself

jo5hm4n

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2022, 10:01:14 pm »
Ortsa I'm curious to hear your reasons. I'm only one day into using it so have little evidence to agree or disagree.
To quote one of my posts elsewhere
'You now can't easily and smoothly connect and disconnect with your pole in one hand and your hose in the other, now you've got 6 inches of hose dangling awkwardly from the end of your pole. You've got to put the brush head on the ground to grab hold of this dangling mess and same to disconnect. Also the whole lot is more likely to get caught on the base cap as it goes up into the pole.

At least Gardiner have the decency to continue legacy products for those who need it (when they introduced the new gooseneck for example)

I'll probably end up having to 3d print the bits myself

The only parts that you need to ensure you can use the original exceed hoseless design is the "pole bung" that sits at the base of the top section of the pole.  If you can find a way to get these theres no reason why you can't continue to use original design.

That is what i plan to do anyway.

Splash & dash

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2022, 10:30:13 pm »
Ortsa I'm curious to hear your reasons. I'm only one day into using it so have little evidence to agree or disagree.
To quote one of my posts elsewhere
'You now can't easily and smoothly connect and disconnect with your pole in one hand and your hose in the other, now you've got 6 inches of hose dangling awkwardly from the end of your pole. You've got to put the brush head on the ground to grab hold of this dangling mess and same to disconnect. Also the whole lot is more likely to get caught on the base cap as it goes up into the pole.

At least Gardiner have the decency to continue legacy products for those who need it (when they introduced the new gooseneck for example)

I'll probably end up having to 3d print the bits myself

The only parts that you need to ensure you can use the original exceed hoseless design is the "pole bung" that sits at the base of the top section of the pole.  If you can find a way to get these theres no reason why you can't continue to use original design.

That is what i plan to do anyway.


Making the bung is the easy part , we use theses , the important bit is the ejected sleeve

Ortsa

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2022, 06:57:36 pm »
Ortsa I'm curious to hear your reasons. I'm only one day into using it so have little evidence to agree or disagree.
To quote one of my posts elsewhere
'You now can't easily and smoothly connect and disconnect with your pole in one hand and your hose in the other, now you've got 6 inches of hose dangling awkwardly from the end of your pole. You've got to put the brush head on the ground to grab hold of this dangling mess and same to disconnect. Also the whole lot is more likely to get caught on the base cap as it goes up into the pole.

At least Gardiner have the decency to continue legacy products for those who need it (when they introduced the new gooseneck for example)

I'll probably end up having to 3d print the bits myself

The only parts that you need to ensure you can use the original exceed hoseless design is the "pole bung" that sits at the base of the top section of the pole.  If you can find a way to get these theres no reason why you can't continue to use original design.

That is what i plan to do anyway.


Making the bung is the easy part , we use theses , the important bit is the ejected sleeve

what is that? Looks good

Also the ejector sleeve is still available in their version 2 (although its a bit shorter)


Splash & dash

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Re: Exceeds Tubeless version 2
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2022, 09:12:43 pm »
Ortsa I'm curious to hear your reasons. I'm only one day into using it so have little evidence to agree or disagree.
To quote one of my posts elsewhere
'You now can't easily and smoothly connect and disconnect with your pole in one hand and your hose in the other, now you've got 6 inches of hose dangling awkwardly from the end of your pole. You've got to put the brush head on the ground to grab hold of this dangling mess and same to disconnect. Also the whole lot is more likely to get caught on the base cap as it goes up into the pole.

At least Gardiner have the decency to continue legacy products for those who need it (when they introduced the new gooseneck for example)

I'll probably end up having to 3d print the bits myself

The only parts that you need to ensure you can use the original exceed hoseless design is the "pole bung" that sits at the base of the top section of the pole.  If you can find a way to get these theres no reason why you can't continue to use original design.

That is what i plan to do anyway.


Making the bung is the easy part , we use theses , the important bit is the ejected sleeve

what is that? Looks good

Also the ejector sleeve is still available in their version 2 (although its a bit shorter)


They are water pipe anti crush inserts . Most plumbers merchants or farm shops sell them