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Adam Tarpley

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Working with other cleaner in your area
« on: March 24, 2022, 05:40:33 pm »
Hi All I'm a long time lurker and learnt alot from you guys. Finally
Started in jan and already up to 109 customers. All trad but plan to go over to wfp. How did you explain to your customers the change. I know I m a long way behind but live in Suffolk so always backwards lol
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Spruce

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Re: Working with other cleaner in your area
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2022, 06:35:34 pm »
Hi All I'm a long time lurker and learnt alot from you guys. Finally
Started in jan and already up to 109 customers. All trad but plan to go over to wfp. How did you explain to your customers the change. I know I m a long way behind but live in Suffolk so always backwards lol
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You don't. You practice and practice on your own windows, your families windows and your friends windows until you look and feel confident using wfp. Then you just carry on. You might lose a few customers, but WFP is an accepted cleaning method these days.

There will always be a few who generate questions. Wait for them to broach the subject.
 You can always just level with them. "You have always known that investing in WFP was expensive, so you wanted to try window cleaning to see if you could justify the future expense."

"You've quickly learnt that working off ladders is a risk you can no longer take."
" You want to stay alive for your family."
"Cleaning with pure water leaves your windows much cleaner for longer, and we can get into corners and flush out dirt that we couldn't do before."
" We value your privacy, and cleaning your upper floor windows from the ground affords you that privacy."

We changed a trad round over to wfp 18 years ago. Customer's didn't understand deionized water technology back then, so we had to explain in detail the system. Most still had no clue after each explanation.  A few even offered I could help myself to water from their outside tap after my in-depth deionized water explanation.

Eventually, I didn't bother to explain any more.

"What do you put in your water to make our windows so clean?" "It's not what we put in, it's what we take out."  "Oh."

"What water do you use?" "Its magic water." (Being from Africa, I could get away with saying that.)

I also told a few that we had a choice between water fed pole or an ultrasonic cleaner. "The first generation ultrasonic cleaner was so heavy it needed two of us to carry it. But all we had to do was point it at your windows, pull the trigger and in seconds the window was clean. Then they brought out a MK2 version which was much lighter, but it was so expensive I would have to remortgage my house to pay for it. I decided that due to cost, this system was the better option. Had I gone the ultrasonic route I would have had to increase your window cleaning price to £75 (or whatever price would shock them) which was another negative."

The other day, my lad reminded me that I hadn't told the ultrasonic cleaner story for a long time, and he missed seeing a customer's memorized face listening to it.  ;D



Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

james peters

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Re: Working with other cleaner in your area
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2022, 06:37:45 pm »
Hi All I'm a long time lurker and learnt alot from you guys. Finally
Started in jan and already up to 109 customers. All trad but plan to go over to wfp. How did you explain to your customers the change. I know I m a long way behind but live in Suffolk so always backwards lol
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well done on the 109 customers , thats great .
I wouldnt make a big deal about changing over. you need to have confidence in wfp as being the trade standard
you will ofcourse be asked , if the customer is home , you may even lose a few , but its the way foreward .

when I changed over 17 years ago , I tried explaining in detail , ( mind you, back then I was the first wfp guy in my town )
it was a nightmare ,
most people now know that window cleaners use a pole . some still dont like it , but thats ok .

dont worry to muck , keep it simple .

Spruce

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Re: Working with other cleaner in your area
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2022, 06:42:57 pm »
Hi All I'm a long time lurker and learnt alot from you guys. Finally
Started in jan and already up to 109 customers. All trad but plan to go over to wfp. How did you explain to your customers the change. I know I m a long way behind but live in Suffolk so always backwards lol
.

well done on the 109 customers , thats great .
I wouldnt make a big deal about changing over. you need to have confidence in wfp as being the trade standard
you will ofcourse be asked , if the customer is home , you may even lose a few , but its the way foreward .

when I changed over 17 years ago , I tried explaining in detail , ( mind you, back then I was the first wfp guy in my town )
it was a nightmare ,
most people now know that window cleaners use a pole . some still dont like it , but thats ok .

dont worry to muck , keep it simple .

He's done well, hasn't he?
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Smudger

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Re: Working with other cleaner in your area
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2022, 08:06:31 pm »
Spruce as always has it spot on - once your happy just clean wfp - none of your customers are long standing enough to worry how you clean  only that your turning up regular and it’s a good result - do it now before that 109 becomes 300 or so…
Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

chester666

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Re: Working with other cleaner in your area
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2022, 09:54:06 pm »
Thanks. pmsl sprouce I might use some of you phrases. Seriously  cheers for all the advice.

Spruce

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Re: Working with other cleaner in your area
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2022, 07:59:26 am »
Thanks. pmsl sprouce I might use some of you phrases. Seriously  cheers for all the advice.

When we had a window cleaner some 28 years ago when we came to England, he used to sink his ladders into the front lawn. The 4 holes he left in the front lawn used to really annoy me. I filled them in one day, and he went mental when he next came.

It was only when I went wfp that I realised how many of my newly acquired customers were happy that there would no longer be holes in their front and back lawns.

So that's another benefit - no more ladder holes in your front and/or back lawns.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)