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colin bird

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War & bills and losing work
« on: March 06, 2022, 09:00:32 pm »
Just wondered what everyone's view regarding the effect that the the Ukraine war,and increase in energy bills and rise in cost of living will have  on ourselves.
I was concerned about losing work when covid arrived but have to say it didn't affect my business.
I'm quite concerned  what is currently gong on in the world and the effect it will have on my business

stu_thomson

  • Posts: 531
Re: War & bills and losing
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2022, 09:04:03 pm »
The good thing about our business is that its only a small amount for our clients to pay each month, and if you lose one you’ll pick up another two
People say that money is not the key to happiness, but I always figured if you have enough money, you can have a key made!

dazmond

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Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2022, 09:02:53 am »
Just wondered what everyone's view regarding the effect that the the Ukraine war,and increase in energy bills and rise in cost of living will have  on ourselves.
I was concerned about losing work when covid arrived but have to say it didn't affect my business.
I'm quite concerned  what is currently gong on in the world and the effect it will have on my business

What is the point of worrying about it?

I just carry on as normal.....head down and get my work cleaned and hope i get paid...  ;D

I've had to dump 2 customers lately for non payment but ive picked up a few new jobs and also my add on jobs are coming in now....I'm cleaning a conny roof today for an existing customer and I did a  f/s/g clean last week for a different chap....

You just can't lose in this game.....
price higher/work harder!

NBwcs

  • Posts: 877
Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2022, 09:31:52 am »
"what is the point in worrying about it".         We've not all got Teflon skin like you have Daz  :)

"can't lose in this game".     That remains to be seen, we've certainly come through some bad time, covid, credit crunch to name two but raging Inflation and war are  new ones and will affect all customers to different degrees. The amount of "can we leave it this times" has increased alot in the last two weeks and I've lost a couple  of custys who cited things being a bit tight at the moment as the reason.  Recruiting more customers is really the only security blanket we have but who's to say that isn't going to get harder too. But I have to say I'm far more concerned about the global picture of where this is all going with that nut job Putin than I am my own business, it tends to put some perspective on it.

Edit.. Just read that latest Intel suggests Putin may have terminal bowel cancer... Now that is worrying, if he's on his way out, we're seeing the actions of a man  with no regard for his own life, the last throws of the dice  from a megalomaniac, now that is worth worrying about.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2022, 11:35:38 am »
Edit.. Just read that latest Intel suggests Putin may have terminal bowel cancer... Now that is worrying, if he's on his way out, we're seeing the actions of a man  with no regard for his own life, the last throws of the dice  from a megalomaniac, now that is worth worrying about.

Where did you see that? I had a look and all I could see was a report in "the daily star" which is basically toilet paper.
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

Slacky

  • Posts: 8261
Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2022, 11:37:15 am »
That has been touted the last few days, people are referring to his weight gain as being a possible sign of treatment for cancer.

It’s all speculation though isn’t it. How often does that turn out to be accurate. If it’s true I agree it might just be the last throws of the dice of a mad man wanting to leave his legacy for the world to observe. But then again, he’s always been nuts as we know all to well in this country.

NBwcs

  • Posts: 877
Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2022, 12:03:25 pm »
Edit.. Just read that latest Intel suggests Putin may have terminal bowel cancer... Now that is worrying, if he's on his way out, we're seeing the actions of a man  with no regard for his own life, the last throws of the dice  from a megalomaniac, now that is worth worrying about.

Where did you see that? I had a look and all I could see was a report in "the daily star" which is basically toilet paper.

Here you go..
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/intelligence-source-claims-vladimir-putin-6763148

Looks like it did originate from the Daily Star, so hopefully gonads.

NWH

  • Posts: 16952
Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2022, 01:49:55 pm »
It’s just not worth worrying about as Daz says just keep going and see what happens,in 30 years from now most of us will be dust anyway.

zesty

  • Posts: 2447
Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2022, 02:12:06 pm »
I keep telling people, inflation is different. It’s not a recession, this is new territory.

There will be window cleaners who lose work.

Everyone’s cost of living is going up, my energy bill has just doubled.

The next 12 months are going to be very interesting.

On the plus side, all the new window cleaning start ups will probably fold, less work out there, and their own cost of living will mean they can’t give this business a go. It’s not a viable business during high inflation.

£140 to fill my van tank up. Madness.

£190 a month council tax.



NWH

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Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2022, 04:08:17 pm »
Maybe people will push you back on you’re cleans it’s next winter that will be interesting not the next 6 months,imo when it comes to September that’s when the conversation might be had about how often they want you to come during the following 5 or 6 months.
Watch the Tele 📺 women walking about with “nothing” 2-3 kids in tow no money in their pocket just with what they have in the world  with them,it’s called perspective losing a few window cleaning jobs should make you feel very lucky to be living in the UK 🇬🇧.

DJW

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Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2022, 05:25:25 pm »
I’ve eaten the last of the caviar and will try to polish off the vodka later tonight.
That will stuff em!

dazmond

  • Posts: 23938
Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2022, 06:22:41 pm »
"what is the point in worrying about it".         We've not all got Teflon skin like you have Daz  :)

"can't lose in this game".     That remains to be seen, we've certainly come through some bad time, covid, credit crunch to name two but raging Inflation and war are  new ones and will affect all customers to different degrees. The amount of "can we leave it this times" has increased alot in the last two weeks and I've lost a couple  of custys who cited things being a bit tight at the moment as the reason.  Recruiting more customers is really the only security blanket we have but who's to say that isn't going to get harder too. But I have to say I'm far more concerned about the global picture of where this is all going with that nut job Putin than I am my own business, it tends to put some perspective on it.

Edit.. Just read that latest Intel suggests Putin may have terminal bowel cancer... Now that is worrying, if he's on his way out, we're seeing the actions of a man  with no regard for his own life, the last throws of the dice  from a megalomaniac, now that is worth worrying about.

I picked up another small domestic job today...£16....her window cleaner has not been for 12 months.... ;D

price higher/work harder!

dazmond

  • Posts: 23938
Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2022, 06:32:34 pm »
What's your customer demographic?most of my customers are wealthy retired folk or middle aged people like me....

I doubt I'll lose any more than a handful of jobs this year as usual....remember spring/summer is just around the corner! :).....People will not be heating their homes like their doing at the present time!👍
price higher/work harder!

Slacky

  • Posts: 8261
Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2022, 06:32:57 pm »
Ive been away, abroad, for the last two weeks, so wondered how the phone and enquiries would be once I got back, particularly as the war has kicked off since Ive been away.

So I had three pressure washing enquires today, one a patio, one a roof and patio and the third was a town centre.

I also had a window cleaning enquiry for a very large residential  at an 8  bedroom gaff in the sticks on the outskirts of Winchester.

Seems all is well in the land of cleaning so far as I can see.

SB Cleaning

  • Posts: 4285
Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2022, 07:01:11 pm »
What's your customer demographic?most of my customers are wealthy retired folk or middle aged people like me....

I doubt I'll lose any more than a handful of jobs this year as usual....remember spring/summer is just around the corner! :).....People will not be heating their homes like their doing at the present time!👍
Most of my customers are the same, if your cleaning for customers living hand to mouth then yes  your going to lose some..
as a 1 man band im not too bothered , I've always got plenty to do...
Picked up a regular 6wk clean today also a £300 FSG off a regular customer..there's plenty of work about.

Richard iSparkle

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Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2022, 07:23:03 pm »
If things get really bad they cut back on big spends (holidays, new cars, etc ) but keep the nice little spends going (Starbucks, lawn care, cleaners) to perk them up.

Sure we’ll be fine. If not we’ll just cut back a bit and last it out.

iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

Stoots

  • Posts: 6200
Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2022, 08:53:17 pm »
No doubt we will lose some, but then covid was a big panic and most of us ended up with more work than ever.

If you have relied on walk ups and referals up to this point you may be in trouble, for those who advertise anyway it will just be a case of turning up the marketting budget and replacing any drop outs.


deeege

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Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2022, 07:11:50 am »
I’ve noticed the gutter cleans and fsg have reduced dramatically recently, I put this down to the few companies advertising aggressively on FB and charging dirt cheap prices. I’m not too fussed about this but I did quite like having a few fsg jobs to drop onto for bad weather afternoons.

On the window cleaning side I’ve picked up loads lately.
£50 house 4 weekly
£80 house 6 weekly
£40 farmhouse 6 weekly
£60 tiny block of 4 flats 4 weekly
£160 office monthly
And a few in the £15-£20 range too
….and the enquiries keep on rolling in.

I’m not worried.
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

NWH

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Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2022, 12:29:53 pm »
Good decent work on the post above I take it they are done in good time,what would you call cheap as far as what others re charging for the F&G cleans.

Slacky

  • Posts: 8261
Re: War & bills and losing work
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2022, 02:15:40 pm »
Another roof cleaning job today.

Stupid money.