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Splash & dash

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2022, 06:55:04 pm »
Hypo

spray in on using backpack and water fed pole

Darran

what is Hypo?



Sodium hypochlorite ( bleach )

zesty

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2022, 12:51:17 pm »
Here’s my machine, as you can see, it’s now a bit like triggers broom!

It looked lovely when I picked it up from Ben all those years ago. It’s worked hard!

He doesn’t supply them on trolleys, he put mine on a trolley when I was there as a request. Makes it very practical to wheel around customers houses!










Splash & dash

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2022, 04:08:01 pm »
Here’s my machine, as you can see, it’s now a bit like triggers broom!

It looked lovely when I picked it up from Ben all those years ago. It’s worked hard!

He doesn’t supply them on trolleys, he put mine on a trolley when I was there as a request. Makes it very practical to wheel around customers houses!







.



Thanks for that it’s intresting . This is a genuine question and not a dig in any way I have just been on the phone to Ben at Rutland and  explained the type of stuff we are trying to remove I asking explained that we are using nano trolleys he said that his machine won’t do anything the nano trolly won’t do but will apply much more product faster but it will still need scrubbing, I explained what you said about never scrubbing anything and he said all stuff including vinyl cladding on commercial buildings will still need scrubbing before rinsing , so now I am not sure wether buying one like yours is worth my while ,Ben said what I am doing isn’t any different it what I would have to do with his machine except it will apply a lot more product , what did you use before you had the one you have now ?? The pictures I posted earlier are typical of the stuff we clean on a daily basis what are you cleaning ? And how are you doing it without scrubbing? What mix are you using and what strength ?? Sorry for all the questions but just don’t understand why you arnt having to scrub anything. Any advice greatly appreciated.  If I di get one it will be like yours in a trolly , I need 4 of them  but dint want it slender money on it if the nano trolleys we have now are just as good ???   I assume you use a wheel bin as a mix tank and draw from that ??

zesty

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2022, 05:01:10 pm »
No the machine is purely about efficiency and speed, the strength is what’s needed to prevent scrubbing, I think most guys are using 2% but you need 5% plus for really bad render.

Cladding is obviously easier, and needs less strength.


I use a big blue barrel for the softwash mix, and then a massive wager butt for rinsing

Splash & dash

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2022, 06:47:38 pm »
No the machine is purely about efficiency and speed, the strength is what’s needed to prevent scrubbing, I think most guys are using 2% but you need 5% plus for really bad render.

Cladding is obviously easier, and needs less strength.


I use a big blue barrel for the softwash mix, and then a massive wager butt for rinsing


Thanks for the information 👍

zesty

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #45 on: February 11, 2022, 07:43:57 pm »
No the machine is purely about efficiency and speed, the strength is what’s needed to prevent scrubbing, I think most guys are using 2% but you need 5% plus for really bad render.

Cladding is obviously easier, and needs less strength.


I use a big blue barrel for the softwash mix, and then a massive wager butt for rinsing


Thanks for the information 👍

The other great thing about a softwash machine is the roller pump is designed for checmial use, so defo a good idea for regular use!

Ian101

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2022, 03:50:47 pm »
if not said already strong hypo and lead flashings don't go well together ... turns lead orange.


zesty

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #47 on: February 12, 2022, 07:03:01 pm »
if not said already strong hypo and lead flashings don't go well together ... turns lead orange.

Yeah it rusts metal, badly .

Ggh

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2022, 08:27:15 am »



Looks very good but is a big place to do with a back pack 😂😂 well done

I sat the backpack by the tap and connected it to the hose reel which made life a lot easier.
The hypo was agricultural stuff, incredibly cheap and very strong.
Even with a surfactant and 30-45 minutes dwell time it needed a couple of applications - though it was extremely grubby.

There are some health and safety concerns with the use of it you're also not supposed to get into a water source.
It did do a highly effective job of restoring the render but I think I'd rather just spend my time cleaning windows.

If it gets into a stream, you’re probably killing lots of fish.

NWH

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2022, 11:18:48 am »
I’m sure you can earn very well doing this but as said it’s not as easy as it looks,saw a window cleaning company that’s also gone into roof cleaning they’ve purchased a spider lift and it looked like they were using a sand blasting method to get off the moss etc.
Charging around 2k per roof seems good until all the costs are weighed up of the lift H&S courses and vehicle to get it to site and the maintaining of the lift itself,need to clean a fair few roofs a month to make it pay.

zesty

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2022, 01:05:12 pm »
I’m sure you can earn very well doing this but as said it’s not as easy as it looks,saw a window cleaning company that’s also gone into roof cleaning they’ve purchased a spider lift and it looked like they were using a sand blasting method to get off the moss etc.
Charging around 2k per roof seems good until all the costs are weighed up of the lift H&S courses and vehicle to get it to site and the maintaining of the lift itself,need to clean a fair few roofs a month to make it pay.

That’s why you hire a cherry picker for £150, if they’re charging £2k then they are making serious money.

Honestly, softwashing is amazing money compared to window cleaning, it’s quick, one lump sum, and less strenuous. I’d happily trade all my window cleaning work for daily SoftWashing if I could…

Done right, it’s safe, effective, simple and easy.

Slacky

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2022, 01:25:36 pm »
I wouldn't trade all of mine but I would trade a very high percentage of it for soft/pressure washing work.


zesty

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2022, 01:36:41 pm »
Quote from: Slacky link=topic= 221956.msg2086594#msg2086594 date=1644758736
I wouldn't trade all of mine but I would trade a very high percentage of it for soft/pressure washing work.

Regarding our emails a while back slacky, just sent you another one   ;D

Splash & dash

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2022, 01:53:10 pm »
I’m sure you can earn very well doing this but as said it’s not as easy as it looks,saw a window cleaning company that’s also gone into roof cleaning they’ve purchased a spider lift and it looked like they were using a sand blasting method to get off the moss etc.
Charging around 2k per roof seems good until all the costs are weighed up of the lift H&S courses and vehicle to get it to site and the maintaining of the lift itself,need to clean a fair few roofs a month to make it pay.

That’s why you hire a cherry picker for £150, if they’re charging £2k then they are making serious money.

Honestly, softwashing is amazing money compared to window cleaning, it’s quick, one lump sum, and less strenuous. I’d happily trade all my window cleaning work for daily SoftWashing if I could…

Done right, it’s safe, effective, simple and easy.


I think ware you are the buildings arnt as dirty as down hear so that’s what makes it easier , we have to scrub them but I will try one that we have booked in in a couple of weeks doing it your way and see what results we get , I love softwash but it is hard work doing the building s I have posted pictures of on hear , we currently have 40 jobs booked in and am negotiating with a management company for 400 houses over a period of 18 months so do need to find an easier quicker way 😂😂😂 ware are you based ??

NWH

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2022, 02:40:17 pm »
 The lift they have more or less allows them to clean the whole roof from the front or the back of the property without moving it,some lifts only allow you to go up and in a limited amount the spider lifts are much more versatile.

zesty

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2022, 04:26:32 pm »
I’m sure you can earn very well doing this but as said it’s not as easy as it looks,saw a window cleaning company that’s also gone into roof cleaning they’ve purchased a spider lift and it looked like they were using a sand blasting method to get off the moss etc.
Charging around 2k per roof seems good until all the costs are weighed up of the lift H&S courses and vehicle to get it to site and the maintaining of the lift itself,need to clean a fair few roofs a month to make it pay.

That’s why you hire a cherry picker for £150, if they’re charging £2k then they are making serious money.

Honestly, softwashing is amazing money compared to window cleaning, it’s quick, one lump sum, and less strenuous. I’d happily trade all my window cleaning work for daily SoftWashing if I could…

Done right, it’s safe, effective, simple and easy.


I think ware you are the buildings arnt as dirty as down hear so that’s what makes it easier , we have to scrub them but I will try one that we have booked in in a couple of weeks doing it your way and see what results we get , I love softwash but it is hard work doing the building s I have posted pictures of on hear , we currently have 40 jobs booked in and am negotiating with a management company for 400 houses over a period of 18 months so do need to find an easier quicker way 😂😂😂 ware are you based ??

Essex, so a dry part of the U.K. and also fairly sunny, I rarely see buildings as bad as the ones you’ve posted!

EandM

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2022, 05:19:13 pm »




Looks very good but is a big place to do with a back pack 😂😂 well done

I sat the backpack by the tap and connected it to the hose reel which made life a lot easier.
The hypo was agricultural stuff, incredibly cheap and very strong.
Even with a surfactant and 30-45 minutes dwell time it needed a couple of applications - though it was extremely grubby.

There are some health and safety concerns with the use of it you're also not supposed to get into a water source.
It did do a highly effective job of restoring the render but I think I'd rather just spend my time cleaning windows.

If it gets into a stream, you’re probably killing lots of fish.

No fish were harmed during the making of this job.
Mains drainage and straight to the treatment works.

NWH

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2022, 05:29:34 pm »
I reckon there’s a lot of people that do this kind of stuff that don’t give a toss where the chemicals go.

Ggh

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2022, 05:38:25 pm »




Looks very good but is a big place to do with a back pack 😂😂 well done

I sat the backpack by the tap and connected it to the hose reel which made life a lot easier.
The hypo was agricultural stuff, incredibly cheap and very strong.
Even with a surfactant and 30-45 minutes dwell time it needed a couple of applications - though it was extremely grubby.

There are some health and safety concerns with the use of it you're also not supposed to get into a water source.
It did do a highly effective job of restoring the render but I think I'd rather just spend my time cleaning windows.

If it gets into a stream, you’re probably killing lots of fish.

No fish were harmed during the making of this job.
Mains drainage and straight to the treatment works.

Round here, most drain into local streams that feed rivers. How many of you check where the run off is going?

Splash & dash

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Re: Cleaning rendering
« Reply #59 on: February 13, 2022, 05:45:09 pm »




Looks very good but is a big place to do with a back pack 😂😂 well done

I sat the backpack by the tap and connected it to the hose reel which made life a lot easier.
The hypo was agricultural stuff, incredibly cheap and very strong.
Even with a surfactant and 30-45 minutes dwell time it needed a couple of applications - though it was extremely grubby.

There are some health and safety concerns with the use of it you're also not supposed to get into a water source.
It did do a highly effective job of restoring the render but I think I'd rather just spend my time cleaning windows.

If it gets into a stream, you’re probably killing lots of fish.

No fish were harmed during the making of this job.
Mains drainage and straight to the treatment works.

Round here, most drain into local streams that feed rivers. How many of you check where the run off is going?



It’s part of our risk assessment, so yes we do take it very seriously , but I do agree with you many don’t , but the EA are very pro active in bringing  prosecutions against ones that do pollute waterways  especially in our area .