[Mark Dee]

I was answering the question I’m obviously not the only one that doesn’t read them,3-4-5-6 gotta be better than doing 20-30 imo.
I’ve tried to refine what I do so I’m not chasing about like an idiot every day trying to keep on top of my work,the bigger the houses the more you charge the less you need to do or am I missing something.

I think you are missing something.
If you can comfortably (comfortably is the important bit) clean 15 houses per work day and take £300 you are going to be better off  over time than cleaning 6 houses per work day (similar amount of time out of the house per day as 15 houses) for £240.

Thinking you are working smart doesnt trump the actual numbers.

[NWH]

No you are wrong because if you can comfortably do half a dozen houses a day you are better off for 1 you don’t need to rush 2 you don’t get way behind with work and 3 if you price correctly you’ll earn more,you don’t need to tell people they are doing it m8.
Who in their right mind wants a 1000 houses or jobs on their books when they can earn the same in half the time as the bloke cleaning 500 ,or if they want to work longer they can earn a lot more.
Divide the amount you earn by the number of jobs you’ve done in a week that’ll give you your average number per job if it’s 25 some would be over the moon,some cleaners will do this and regularly hit 70-75 it’s a numbers game yes and a higher number per job relates to how hard you are having to work for you’re 300 in relation to running around.
Having lots of jobs in 1 area at a time can burn you out and get you wanting to pack this job up variation and working in different places mixes it up,not surprised people get fed up when all their works on the doorstep.

[Mark Dee]

No you are wrong because if you can comfortably do half a dozen houses a day you are better off for 1 you don’t need to rush 2 you don’t get way behind with work and 3 if you price correctly you’ll earn more,you don’t need to tell people they are doing it m8.
Who in their right mind wants a 1000 houses or jobs on their books when they can earn the same in half the time as the bloke cleaning 500 ,or if they want to work longer they can earn a lot more.
Divide the amount you earn by the number of jobs you’ve done in a week that’ll give you your average number per job if it’s 25 some would be over the moon,some cleaners will do this and regularly hit 70-75 it’s a numbers game yes and a higher number per job relates to how hard you are having to work for you’re 300 in relation to running around.
Having lots of jobs in 1 area at a time can burn you out and get you wanting to pack this job up variation and working in different places mixes it up,not surprised people get fed up when all their works on the doorstep.

OK In the example I gave the cleaner cleaning 15 houses takes £300 a day, the cleaner cleaning 6 houses takes £240 a day. The man cleaning 15 smaller houses earns £60 a day more. £60 a day extra is a fair chunk (and percentage) of additional nett income.
So in the example given both cleaners leave the house at 8am, the man with 6 houses is home by 11am the man cleaning 15 is home by 1pm. The 15 house man isnt out till 5pm  cleaning!. He works 10 hours more per week but has an extra £300 in his pocket to play with.
Over say a 6 week cleaning frequency (5 cleaning weeks to allow for weather and holidays) thats an extra £1500 for the 15 a day man, both men will think they have a part time job, the man working the token extra hours has a better paid part time job though. The other fella plays more Playstation or wastes even more time doing nothing in particular.
How few hours a day do you want to work?

[KS Cleaning]

No you are wrong because if you can comfortably do half a dozen houses a day you are better off for 1 you don’t need to rush 2 you don’t get way behind with work and 3 if you price correctly you’ll earn more,you don’t need to tell people they are doing it m8.
Who in their right mind wants a 1000 houses or jobs on their books when they can earn the same in half the time as the bloke cleaning 500 ,or if they want to work longer they can earn a lot more.
Divide the amount you earn by the number of jobs you’ve done in a week that’ll give you your average number per job if it’s 25 some would be over the moon,some cleaners will do this and regularly hit 70-75 it’s a numbers game yes and a higher number per job relates to how hard you are having to work for you’re 300 in relation to running around.
Having lots of jobs in 1 area at a time can burn you out and get you wanting to pack this job up variation and working in different places mixes it up,not surprised people get fed up when all their works on the doorstep.

He isn’t wrong tho is he? It’s more to do with the fact that you don’t have the capacity to understand what he wrote. He clearly stated that he could work ‘comfortably’ on smaller properties and earn £300 in the same time it would take him to earn £240 working ‘comfortably’ on larger properties.
Your business model works for you, great, would it work for me? Not a chance!

[Smudger]

Your forgetting the niggle factor he cleans 3 houses for £1800 a day ( but does conservatories foc )
However he drives around for hours to reach these jobs 

Darran

[KS Cleaning]

Your forgetting the niggle factor he cleans 3 houses for £1800 a day ( but does conservatories foc )
However he drives around for hours to reach these jobs 

Darran

His profit must be getting slimmer and slimmer with the cost of fuel and Michelin Cross Climates these days🤣

[NWH]

That’s the thing see can’t have a sensible conversation.

[NWH]

Your forgetting the niggle factor he cleans 3 houses for £1800 a day ( but does conservatories foc )
However he drives around for hours to reach these jobs 

Darran

His profit must be getting slimmer and slimmer with the cost of fuel and Michelin Cross Climates these days🤣

And Michelin 4s for the new car I’ll be over the border soon 🤣🤣

[Smudger]

That’s the thing see can’t have a sensible conversation.

With all that lol’ing and irrelevant posting I must have missed your serious conversation niggle

[KS Cleaning]

That’s the thing see can’t have a sensible conversation.

With all that lol’ing and irrelevant posting I must have missed your serious conversation niggle

Niggle 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 post of the week contender right there.

[Slacky]

That’s the thing see can’t have a sensible conversation.

Thats rich coming from you - you (Modded - I understand the sentiment but please post civilly).

[Slacky]

(Modded - I understand the sentiment but please post civilly).

[AuRavelling79]

(Modded - I understand the sentiment but please post civilly).

 

[Splash & dash]

Your forgetting the niggle factor he cleans 3 houses for £1800 a day ( but does conservatories foc )
However he drives around for hours to reach these jobs 

Darran

Think you missed out the decimal point  £18:00 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[NWH]

Lol yeah another lol I don’t have a job for 18 actually if anyone’s got one going 🤣🤣🤣

[jay moley]

Little update on this:

So he's been with me two months now. He's a nice enough lad. Doesn't complain, always on time. Does canvassing with me too though not that good at it (not expecting him to be yet).

Problem is still his speed. I've showed him how to be quick and he managed to speed up last week. This week he's back to his old pace. I've asked him why and he hasn't really got an excuse. The more we do the more he will earn but Im thinking he's probably not that motivated by money. Even when he's got a new job canvassing which I give him a cut of, he shows no enthusiasm that he's just earned more. Bit strange really. I think it may be that employees are just turning up to do a job and go home. Obviously they don't care as much as us and I wouldn't expect him to.

He also doesn't have any sense of urgency when we get to a job, slow to get going and packing up. Ive told him about this.

My other major gripe is that he keeps asking me the same questions.

Last two days ive said at the start of the day: "You've got the fronts today, start straight away unless I say otherwise". He's asked me whether he should start at least 5/6 times over the last two days.  Also - "should I wipe the sills".

Another one is going to fill up with water (I dont make my own) and him asking whether he should take the lid off the tank and put the pipe in. I wouldn't have a problem if it was the first couple of weeks but he's been working two months now and ive told him to do that when we get there.

The other thing that gets to me is that he takes his gloves off every time we get in the van. We are driving no more than 5 minutes between jobs often less. Its a tiny thing but its just more wasted time. I haven't said anything about that as im wondering whether thats unreasonable and Im going mad. I try to be patient and not be on at him for everything as I don't want him to get disheartened.

Bit of a rant sorry.

Thoughts?

[AuRavelling79]

This time last month you said that the turnover with him on board had gone from £350 with you alone to £450.

Has it improved?

[jay moley]

This time last month you said that the turnover with him on board had gone from £350 with you alone to £450.

Has it improved?

£450 is the break even figure.

A few days we went over £500 but not consistently no.

[james peters]

Little update on this:

So he's been with me two months now. He's a nice enough lad. Doesn't complain, always on time. Does canvassing with me too though not that good at it (not expecting him to be yet).

Problem is still his speed. I've showed him how to be quick and he managed to speed up last week. This week he's back to his old pace. I've asked him why and he hasn't really got an excuse. The more we do the more he will earn but Im thinking he's probably not that motivated by money. Even when he's got a new job canvassing which I give him a cut of, he shows no enthusiasm that he's just earned more. Bit strange really. I think it may be that employees are just turning up to do a job and go home. Obviously they don't care as much as us and I wouldn't expect him to.

He also doesn't have any sense of urgency when we get to a job, slow to get going and packing up. Ive told him about this.

My other major gripe is that he keeps asking me the same questions.

Last two days ive said at the start of the day: "You've got the fronts today, start straight away unless I say otherwise". He's asked me whether he should start at least 5/6 times over the last two days.  Also - "should I wipe the sills".

Another one is going to fill up with water (I dont make my own) and him asking whether he should take the lid off the tank and put the pipe in. I wouldn't have a problem if it was the first couple of weeks but he's been working two months now and ive told him to do that when we get there.

The other thing that gets to me is that he takes his gloves off every time we get in the van. We are driving no more than 5 minutes between jobs often less. Its a tiny thing but its just more wasted time. I haven't said anything about that as im wondering whether thats unreasonable and Im going mad. I try to be patient and not be on at him for everything as I don't want him to get disheartened.

Bit of a rant sorry.

Thoughts?

so , on the whole , hes a nice decent lad , but it appears the main issue is he lacks a sense of urgency , and he is not assertive enough ?

perhars completely restructure the way he gets paid., as an insentive for him ? just an idea.

RE... The little things that annoy you... I think that is to be expected , especially if you have worked on your own for years .
my daughter works with me  ... I am used to her and her ways , yet put her in a van with me all day and she makes my teeth itch 
shes so messy and unorganised .

[jay moley]

Little update on this:

So he's been with me two months now. He's a nice enough lad. Doesn't complain, always on time. Does canvassing with me too though not that good at it (not expecting him to be yet).

Problem is still his speed. I've showed him how to be quick and he managed to speed up last week. This week he's back to his old pace. I've asked him why and he hasn't really got an excuse. The more we do the more he will earn but Im thinking he's probably not that motivated by money. Even when he's got a new job canvassing which I give him a cut of, he shows no enthusiasm that he's just earned more. Bit strange really. I think it may be that employees are just turning up to do a job and go home. Obviously they don't care as much as us and I wouldn't expect him to.

He also doesn't have any sense of urgency when we get to a job, slow to get going and packing up. Ive told him about this.

My other major gripe is that he keeps asking me the same questions.

Last two days ive said at the start of the day: "You've got the fronts today, start straight away unless I say otherwise". He's asked me whether he should start at least 5/6 times over the last two days.  Also - "should I wipe the sills".

Another one is going to fill up with water (I dont make my own) and him asking whether he should take the lid off the tank and put the pipe in. I wouldn't have a problem if it was the first couple of weeks but he's been working two months now and ive told him to do that when we get there.

The other thing that gets to me is that he takes his gloves off every time we get in the van. We are driving no more than 5 minutes between jobs often less. Its a tiny thing but its just more wasted time. I haven't said anything about that as im wondering whether thats unreasonable and Im going mad. I try to be patient and not be on at him for everything as I don't want him to get disheartened.

Bit of a rant sorry.

Thoughts?

so , on the whole , hes a nice decent lad , but it appears the main issue is he lacks a sense of urgency , and he is not assertive enough ?

perhars completely restructure the way he gets paid., as an insentive for him ? just an idea.

RE... The little things that annoy you... I think that is to be expected , especially if you have worked on your own for years .
my daughter works with me  ... I am used to her and her ways , yet put her in a van with me all day and she makes my teeth itch 
shes so messy and unorganised .

I am incentivising him. He gets an hourly rate but can earn more each day if we do more.