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Richard iSparkle

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2021, 02:06:59 pm »
I think it takes a good 12 months to get fully up to speed.

At cleaning a window? That’s insane?!!
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

jim bean

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2021, 12:51:12 am »
Probably 2 months working alongside a fully competent user watching telling them exactly how to do little things when they crop up
Anyone who can be up to anything like half decent speed in a week is a miracle

Smudger

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2021, 12:12:36 pm »
Two weeks for a competent person to clean individual windows at a good speed and properly

Much longer learning a round and where to park etc….

The above applies to 90% of windows - as the seasons change then there will be small variations to learn

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Richard iSparkle

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2021, 05:50:47 pm »
Probably 2 months working alongside a fully competent user watching telling them exactly how to do little things when they crop up
Anyone who can be up to anything like half decent speed in a week is a miracle

Then I must be Jesus  ;D
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

Smudger

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2021, 06:32:34 pm »
if your Jesus - that makes me......
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Smudger

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2021, 06:33:17 pm »
Mother teresa  ;D
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

jim bean

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2021, 08:09:46 pm »
Probably 2 months working alongside a fully competent user watching telling them exactly how to do little things when they crop up
Anyone who can be up to anything like half decent speed in a week is a miracle

Then I must be Jesus  ;D

Don’t know what your good speed is but it certainly isn’t the same as mine lol they’re still gonna be half as slow as I would be for 2 months at least so that’s not a good speed 👍

Richard iSparkle

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2021, 09:12:43 pm »
Probably 2 months working alongside a fully competent user watching telling them exactly how to do little things when they crop up
Anyone who can be up to anything like half decent speed in a week is a miracle

Then I must be Jesus  ;D

Don’t know what your good speed is but it certainly isn’t the same as mine lol they’re still gonna be half as slow as I would be for 2 months at least so that’s not a good speed 👍

We’re pretty nippy mate. People usually think I’m lying when I tell them our numbers 😉
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

Smudger

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2021, 09:47:10 pm »
Probably 2 months working alongside a fully competent user watching telling them exactly how to do little things when they crop up
Anyone who can be up to anything like half decent speed in a week is a miracle

Then I must be Jesus  ;D

Don’t know what your good speed is but it certainly isn’t the same as mine lol they’re still gonna be half as slow as I would be for 2 months at least so that’s not a good speed 👍

We’re pretty nippy mate. People usually think I’m lying when I tell them our numbers 😉

Speed is subjective - what you may think is fast may only be average or even slow - as we are all independent we have no standard to work by..

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

jim bean

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2021, 10:08:57 pm »
What are these numbers ? I always watch other windies when I see one so I know I’m pretty damn fast

jim bean

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2021, 10:10:03 pm »
Probably 2 months working alongside a fully competent user watching telling them exactly how to do little things when they crop up
Anyone who can be up to anything like half decent speed in a week is a miracle

Then I must be Jesus  ;D

Don’t know what your good speed is but it certainly isn’t the same as mine lol they’re still gonna be half as slow as I would be for 2 months at least so that’s not a good speed 👍

We’re pretty nippy mate. People usually think I’m lying when I tell them our numbers 😉

Speed is subjective - what you may think is fast may only be average or even slow - as we are all independent we have no standard to work by..

Darran
Only possible way to test it would be to clean 2 side by side identical houses really

NWH

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2021, 07:52:49 pm »
How long does it take someone to learn WFP Mmm,if they’ve cleaned windows traditionally my honest opinion would be at least a year and even then 3 more years in they’ll think they were slow in the first year.
Someone that’s cleaned traditional will end up being a better cleaner than someone that’s never cleaned windows and that’s coming from someone that knows everything.

Stoots

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2021, 09:50:43 pm »
It takes years to really be efficent, fast and do a good job.

Easy to be slow and good or fast and poor but fast and good won't come quickly.

That's said, let him crack on, he will never be as good as you and always get the odd complaint it's an employee thing.

jonboywalton75

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2021, 12:38:28 pm »
I'm fast and good enough to get paid good rates
I've been wf poling for 12 years,
Trad for 17 years before that
I'm super quick but 64 so not long to go now

jonboywalton75

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2021, 12:39:52 pm »
I'd say I got quick and good after about 3 or 4 years
Now I'm lightning  ;D

NWH

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2021, 12:51:52 pm »
How quick you will be in a few months and how you’ll clean with the pole years down the line is totally different, once you know what method will clean to a good standard you’ll stick with that and speed will follow.
A light pole a good brush and hot water makes light work of a huge amount of windows in little time.

Smudger

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2021, 02:42:10 pm »
How quick you will be in a few months and how you’ll clean with the pole years down the line is totally different, once you know what method will clean to a good standard you’ll stick with that and speed will follow.
A light pole a good brush and hot water makes light work of a huge amount of windows in little time.

your still trying to find that method art you ?

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

NWH

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2021, 03:31:47 pm »
No mate I just don’t want to let some fool loose on decent work if I was cleaning 2 up 2 downs or similar work maybe I’d have a team of monkeys out most days knocking em out like a pent up teenager but I don’t 👌,some work has be done to a good standard or you’ll lose it big commercial jobs that don’t care how they look is a different ball game.

Smudger

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2021, 03:39:17 pm »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

your like a clockwork toy.....


wind you up......



oooooooooooooffff.  yoooooouuuuu. gooooooooooooo..!!

 ;D ;D ;D

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

NWH

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Re: How long to learn WFP to a good standard?
« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2021, 04:01:15 pm »
If I had a big school or Tesco’s to clean Darren they’d get a half hour WFP course you know what I mean yeah,anyone can clean windows how hard can it be to start off with the money floods in and then you get a Tsunami of text messages saying service no longer required as it’s not to the same service as it once was lol,yeah seen it all before m8.