[Chris Fox]

I'm old school, like to buy something outright and own it. Don't wish to rent something and pay forever to use it.  Mortgage paid, debt free and like to remain that way being forced to budget for expenses to obtain what I want, when I want without worrying about debt by being cautious with money . That's how old school people are where as new kids on the block, pile up the debt, worry about it tomorrow and never lay foundations for a  long term plan to get where they aim to achieve.

This is very true, and another reason I think many people prefer to stick with paper based systems or even a Spreadsheets like Excel where they purchased the license and use it forever. The world of software has changed now and the trend is towards a monthly license (SaaS - Software as a Service) to use it which includes on going support, all updates and upgrades, cloud hosting for data security and a whole host of other things. All that said, perhaps there is an opportunity to offer this type of software as a once-off purchase. I will explore this idea and see how if it could be viable. Thanks for the feedback.

[Pete Thompson]

Gone are the days of going into a  Personal Computer shop and simply buying a program you want  there and then and owning it outright how you please.  Nowadays you can rent the same programs  but you have to keep paying a subscription to borrow them.

Even buying houses nowadays on new modern estates are being sold the same way. You can buy the house but the land it comes with is  leasehold so you never own the land, just rent it.

I'm old school, like to buy something outright and own it. Don't wish to rent something and pay forever to use it.  Mortgage paid, debt free and like to remain that way being forced to budget for expenses to obtain what I want, when I want without worrying about debt by being cautious with money . That's how old school people are where as new kids on the block, pile up the debt, worry about it tomorrow and never lay foundations for a  long term plan to get where they aim to achieve.

Completely disagree.

The problem with one-off purchases is that there is no ongoing income stream for the developer, therefore no money to maintain, improve, update the product.

This was exactly the problem with that excellent windows program, Window Cleaner Pro. Superb software, way ahead of its time, long before cleaner planner. But it was a one-off payment and it first stopped being supported, then lapsed into obscurity. Much of its code depreciated and there was no funding (or motivation) by the developer to update it.

I’m more than happy to pay a monthly fee for good software. IMO it’s the only way to keep it reliable and working.

[dazmond]

Gone are the days of going into a  Personal Computer shop and simply buying a program you want  there and then and owning it outright how you please.  Nowadays you can rent the same programs  but you have to keep paying a subscription to borrow them.

Even buying houses nowadays on new modern estates are being sold the same way. You can buy the house but the land it comes with is  leasehold so you never own the land, just rent it.

I'm old school, like to buy something outright and own it. Don't wish to rent something and pay forever to use it.  Mortgage paid, debt free and like to remain that way being forced to budget for expenses to obtain what I want, when I want without worrying about debt by being cautious with money . That's how old school people are where as new kids on the block, pile up the debt, worry about it tomorrow and never lay foundations for a  long term plan to get where they aim to achieve.

Completely disagree.

The problem with one-off purchases is that there is no ongoing income stream for the developer, therefore no money to maintain, improve, update the product.

This was exactly the problem with that excellent windows program, Window Cleaner Pro. Superb software, way ahead of its time, long before cleaner planner. But it was a one-off payment and it first stopped being supported, then lapsed into obscurity. Much of its code depreciated and there was no funding (or motivation) by the developer to update it.

I’m more than happy to pay a monthly fee for good software. IMO it’s the only way to keep it reliable and working.

exactly.....nothing wrong with paying a monthly nominal fee for a good software program...its tax deductible anyway....

[Bungle]

Pah to the two above posts. Pay monthly pay more. If I want something like a car or motorbike I'll buy it outright. Then I know it's mine and I'm not paying an extra % for the same thing. I'm with windowswashed here. If I can't afford it I don't buy it. Simples.

[Slacky]

But if the facility isn’t there then you have pay monthly.

Do you pay for a life times telephone rental in one go?

[Bungle]

But if the facility isn’t there then you have pay monthly.

Do you pay for a life times telephone rental in one go?

Who me? No, because there is no option to.

Do you buy your telly on a monthly payment?

[tom20001]

Pah to the two above posts. Pay monthly pay more. If I want something like a car or motorbike I'll buy it outright. Then I know it's mine and I'm not paying an extra % for the same thing. I'm with windowswashed here. If I can't afford it I don't buy it. Simples.

Might be looking for some motorbike purchasing advice soon after finishing the Sons of Anarchy show 😂

[Chris Fox]

...I’m more than happy to pay a monthly fee for good software. IMO it’s the only way to keep it reliable and working.

Great points Pete, completely agree.

The "Open Source" software movement from decades ago is where it all began. Many companies did not want to adopt open source software  as it was deemed to risky to use mission critical software that was not backed by a corporate. That view has since changed a lot with most Open Source vendors still making their software source available and free to use but also offering commercial offerings where they provide the support and maintenance that is needed to encourage adoption.

We will be "Open Sourcing" the software we are building which makes us accountable to the development community who are free to peer review it. Anyone who so wishes can also run the software from their own servers for free, but of course, our commercial product will be sold as a subscription with all the work of  hosting and maintaining it our responsibility.

[Slacky]

But if the facility isn’t there then you have pay monthly.

Do you pay for a life times telephone rental in one go?

Who me? No, because there is no option to.

Do you buy your telly on a monthly payment?

What makes you think I paid for my telly?

[dazmond]

Pah to the two above posts. Pay monthly pay more. If I want something like a car or motorbike I'll buy it outright. Then I know it's mine and I'm not paying an extra % for the same thing. I'm with windowswashed here. If I can't afford it I don't buy it. Simples.

i pay £15 a month....its hardly breaking the bank for super slick,easy admin.....it makes running my business a lot easier....im happy to pay it.....

[windowswashed]

Pah to the two above posts. Pay monthly pay more. If I want something like a car or motorbike I'll buy it outright. Then I know it's mine and I'm not paying an extra % for the same thing. I'm with windowswashed here. If I can't afford it I don't buy it. Simples.

i pay £15 a month....its hardly breaking the bank for super slick,easy admin.....it makes running my business a lot easier....im happy to pay it.....

£228-348 annually just to use a program that may save some people some time in admin. Better things to waste my money on like buying another property

[Bungle]

But if the facility isn’t there then you have pay monthly.

Do you pay for a life times telephone rental in one go?

Who me? No, because there is no option to.

Do you buy your telly on a monthly payment?

What makes you think I paid for my telly?

You nicked it or you're a pedant?

[dazmond]

Pah to the two above posts. Pay monthly pay more. If I want something like a car or motorbike I'll buy it outright. Then I know it's mine and I'm not paying an extra % for the same thing. I'm with windowswashed here. If I can't afford it I don't buy it. Simples.

i pay £15 a month....its hardly breaking the bank for super slick,easy admin.....it makes running my business a lot easier....im happy to pay it.....

£228-348 annually just to use a program that may save some people some time in admin. Better things to waste my money on like buying another property

maths wasnt your strong point at school then?

it works out at £180 a year......

i personally cant stand people who expect something for nothing........tight arse people....ive got no time for them.....

[NWH]

I have to agree with that Daz I still here people moaning about money etc after COVID people should look at life as another go at it if they’ve not been effected at all.
This time last year they might have snuffed it think ourselves lucky should be the attitude going forward imo.

[robbo333]

Pah to the two above posts. Pay monthly pay more. If I want something like a car or motorbike I'll buy it outright. Then I know it's mine and I'm not paying an extra % for the same thing. I'm with windowswashed here. If I can't afford it I don't buy it. Simples.

i pay £15 a month....its hardly breaking the bank for super slick,easy admin.....it makes running my business a lot easier....im happy to pay it.....

£228-348 annually just to use a program that may save some people some time in admin. Better things to waste my money on like buying another property

That's not a better thing, that's just a different thing.
A better thing would be holidays, booze, hookers...

[Slacky]

Post of the year!