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Jay Le Huray

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tennis elbow
« on: May 23, 2021, 10:22:43 am »
Having just read the other thread about trigger finger I thought I might post this

a couple of weeks ago I started to get awful pains in my right arm starting at the elbow joint and going right down my forearm.

Believe it or not I managed to get a doctors appointment and have been diagnosed with tennis elbow, the doc gave me some Phorpain gel and ibuprofen tablets,

he said if it does not get any better within the next few weeks he may try a pain killer injection.

it goes without saying that this is due to repetitive wfp poling

Perfect Windows

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2021, 10:42:20 am »
Having just read the other thread about trigger finger I thought I might post this

a couple of weeks ago I started to get awful pains in my right arm starting at the elbow joint and going right down my forearm.

Believe it or not I managed to get a doctors appointment and have been diagnosed with tennis elbow, the doc gave me some Phorpain gel and ibuprofen tablets,

he said if it does not get any better within the next few weeks he may try a pain killer injection.

it goes without saying that this is due to repetitive wfp poling

I'm convinced that part of the problem with WFP is having to grip the pole without allowing it to slip.

We use heatshrink on the poles. Gripper than the original surface
We wear gloves (Showa 377) that increase grip.
I have, in the past, used cricket bat handle rubbers on the pole. This may be the best solution.
I'm testing a handle that allows me to use the pole without gripping it (fingers slip into the gap and support the pole).



Vin


jk999

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2021, 10:42:48 am »
Had tennis elbow for over 30 years but never had an injection ,to be honest I have been told about these injection s n no thanks I have an high pain threshold but sorry draw the line at the injection 😊😊😊

Ggh

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2021, 10:43:33 am »
I have this in both arms, for maybe 12years or so. Was previously a memorial mason. Lots of lump hammer action!
Mine never healed. Look on Amazon or somewhere and buy a strap that tightens over your forearm. It’ll stop you tensing and help hugely.
At my worst, lifting a cup of coffee was agony.
I can’t go bowling because of the strain on the muscle. Don’t let it get as bad as that.
Also there is ultrasound treatment that’s supposed to help, didn’t work for me.

Good luck.

Owenhargreavesmidf

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2021, 10:49:47 am »
Does Andy Murray also have a tennis elbow?

dd

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2021, 11:52:43 am »
Going by what others have said an electric reel may help.

Granny

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2021, 11:58:20 am »

dd

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2021, 12:03:59 pm »
I did get tennis elbow from playing tennis and had to take about a year off from tennis. Luckily it was not much aggravated by wfp.

There are various exercises you can do. The one that seemed to help most was a wrist rotation exercise (Sadguru yoga on youtube).

NWH

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2021, 12:22:40 pm »
The wrist inner forearm and elbow all flex when you WFP if you over grip it tightens the tendons inside the forearm and this causes the pain,when tight it causes the Ulnar nerve to become inflamed.
When you’ve had this problem for as long as I did you soon learn to clean with your fingertips using the lightest pole possible.

zesty

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2021, 12:48:16 pm »
Alex gardiner designed the control bars for the big boy poles, maybe he needs to come up with something similar for all pole sizes

simon w

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2021, 12:55:22 pm »
Learn how to self massage the tendon between elbow and wrist or better still find a professional to do it for you

It won't last forever get the tendon worked on and it'll heal up itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8KLKhu3XFA

NWH

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2021, 01:18:09 pm »
I think those handles for the larger poles are for more control over the pole rather than trying to reduce injury,when you have golfers-tennis elbow bad even just resting it on  the side of a couch or laying in bed with it over a pillow starts it off.
If you are at the point that you are getting shooting pains down the arm almost like an electric shock you need to start the massage and exercises immediately,that’s a sign the tendons are so tight you could play a tune on them.

Gringo

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2021, 01:54:11 pm »
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultimate-Tennis-Elbow-Golfers-Solution/dp/B06XXKLP1Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=dr+arthritis+tennis+elbow&qid=1621774204&sr=8-7
I bought this defo helps but cheaper than other posted, but you need physio also, just finished mine 4 sessions and cleared up together with exercises, if you don't do anything like I did for a month or two you will be in pain for quite a while

windowswashed

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2021, 02:00:04 pm »
I like the idea of that handle. I will throw out an idea:

Why not design a handle that incorporates a pole butt cover that can be fitted to the bottom of the pole so it takes the weight of the pole and can be secured tightly enough to the pole wall to prevent slipping without crushing or damaging the pole wall that it is secured to.

Gringo

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2021, 02:00:37 pm »
Nwh is spot on in what he says re gripping too tight and using lightest poles and brushes, I tried telling this to someone the other week using a 35 clx for everyday work, of course he didn't listen

Simon Trapani

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2021, 02:00:47 pm »
I’ve had tennis elbow recently diagnosed by a physio. As said it’s the tendons on the outside of the forearm between the elbow & wrist. They all connect on the one spot. My employee obviously works slightly different to me as he has golfers elbow which is pain on the inside of his elbow.

I’ve had physio & been told to massage it as said by simon  w above.

I’ve worked out how I’ve strained mine though. I was extending the 1st two sections of my 25 SLX out pretty much horizontally & then swinging it up for the next extension. This combined with the momentum of swinging it towards the window & then back away was putting all that strain through my forearm. I now extend the pole vertically & lower towards the window with my left bicep . I find this a slower way if working but has definitely taken the strain off my right forearm. Combined with the massage & working left left handed (which i find as awkward as writing left handed) it has definitely improved. I’m no longer getting the pain as bad. I’m sure if i continue this way it will clear up totally in a few weeks.

I’ve never had a problem with my fixed manual reel although saying that I probably will buy an electric eventually.

Can’t justify an extreme pole & i still prefer using superlites. I’m 100% sure it was my technique causing the tennis elbow as I had only started swinging the pole up 6 months or so ago. Not sure why. Just seemed quicker.

Hope that all makes sense & helps anyone else.

windowswashed

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2021, 02:06:14 pm »
I like the concept of extreme poles but the problem with making them lighter is they are the same as the original versions just made lighter by making them thinner, hence why they are easier to break as they have weaker points.

The  higher carbon poles with more rigidity is what makes the difference as it doesn't allow as much flex in a pole, that's what makes more difference than the weight saving by compromising the poles strength.

Gringo

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2021, 05:10:06 pm »
I've also worked out your problem Simon skx 25 and supalight brushes, extreme both would be a massive difference

Gringo

  • Posts: 315
Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2021, 05:10:41 pm »
Slx pole that is

NWH

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Re: tennis elbow
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2021, 05:56:07 pm »
The poles and brushes are a must but even when using these it won’t stop you getting this problem if you over grip using a snooker cue it’s the repetitive movement,the light poles and brushes allow you to work holding the pole basically with your fingertips.
Once this starts in you’re arm you need to treat it or it will come and go for months-years,all you need to do to prevent it is to keep the muscles in the forearm loose once they go tight they restrict the tendons.