[Arnold Palmer]

so Richard - in this scenario I go out to clean windows and the van breaks down - its 3 hours before anyone or the AA can recover me and it takes some time for me to get back to base I cleaned 1 house for £25 all day - what are you paying me?

How did paying a % work for furlough payments/entitlements

Darran

Furlough was calculated on last year's P60. (Actually it was the current year to date values then laterally the p60 because it was late march it started, and May before the portal opened to claim it). Take the YTD value / by how many weeks so far this year * 80% = weekly furlough amount.

We trialled a similar % based wage set up when we returned from covid (we moved from two in a van to solo operators so had to change something) it became quickly apparent that it didn't work for us. It wasn't possible to ensure minimum wages and holiday pay sent it out of whack. For us it's basically a self employed set up just without the perks for either party.

[Richard iSparkle]

so Richard - in this scenario I go out to clean windows and the van breaks down - its 3 hours before anyone or the AA can recover me and it takes some time for me to get back to base I cleaned 1 house for £25 all day - what are you paying me?

How did paying a % work for furlough payments/entitlements

Darran

That’s never happened to us to be honest.

I’d have to work it out if or when it did ..

Probably they’d  just Default back to minimum wage for the hours they were in work

Not really a big issue though. Our vans are leased so all are 1-3 years old and don’t breakdown luckily 🤞🏻

[NWH]

Imo you need to pay someone whatever weather-holiday etc,if you sit down and work out how much you can do per day with all this costed in and still make a good profit it’s worth it if not there’s no point but a days trial or someone full time they need to know where they are money wise like you do,if you get the right person it’s worth the sacrifice.

[Smudger]

Richard - what do they get for holiday pay - I'm not being picky - just trying to grasp how it runs and stays above the minimum wage and if I were your employee what I would expect if things went wrong and paid holidays

Darran

[Richard iSparkle]

Richard - what do they get for holiday pay - I'm not being picky - just trying to grasp how it runs and stays above the minimum wage and if I were your employee what I would expect if things went wrong and paid holidays

Darran

ive emailed you mate

[robbo333]

Ive posted a job on indeed as per recommendations from others on the forum.

So far ive only had 6 applicants. Five were a no from the word go based on their CV's and either poor covering letters or lack of one.

One bloke seemed good when I had a chat with him but pulled out when I said he could come on a trial day that wasn't paid.

Should I be approaching matched people on there or just wait for applicants?

I'm guessing you are looking for a decent person, honest, hard working and respectful.
These people are also looking for a job, they have a history, a current situation and want to 'move forward' for themselves and their family!
They are looking at loads of jobs and see yours.
What would YOU do if you saw your own advert?
The decent candidates are thinking long term, so sell it to them, show them the potential, and bloody pay them for a trial.

[NWH]

Why do you think when someone comes for a job window cleaning they don’t view it as a “proper” job when the potential employer is quibbling over holiday and sick pay lol,if you can’t afford to pay everything that goes with it you ain’t ready for employing.

[Kev Martin]

Ive posted a job on indeed as per recommendations from others on the forum.

So far ive only had 6 applicants. Five were a no from the word go based on their CV's and either poor covering letters or lack of one.

One bloke seemed good when I had a chat with him but pulled out when I said he could come on a trial day that wasn't paid.

Should I be approaching matched people on there or just wait for applicants?

When you advertise on Indeed the advert is way down the rankings.  If you pay them they will boost the advert and you will get  more applicants.  It takes minutes to  go through them and sort the  overqualified and the dross.  The problem with trying to employ people is finding an applicant that truly wants the job and wants to in your case clean windows.  All too often they are either only applying to keep their JS Allowance or they only want the job as a stop gap and they are the worst.  The other day I had a fully qualified Aircraft Pilot apply to me for a Digital Marketing Assistants job.

[NWH]

I know 2 pilots delivering for acado 1 has been furloughed and will go back the other won’t fly a commercial plane again he’s been told,they’ve gone from 90k a year to 21k delivering.
Anyone with the ambition of working on their own and being self employed would be a no no imo,you need someone with bills to pay so they need to get up and out in the morning.

[Jack Judd]

Very interesting topic has I posted on indeed this week.  I am trailing out next week and have a first canditate on Monday.  Paid for trial.  Why not, personal preference and probably most people would accept no money for a trial.  My 18 year old son is always happy when he gets a paid trial.  Happy worker is a good start to the relationship.  I feel like I want to pay somone for the time.   Short interview at end of day, but will be out on the job for the day and that is where emotional decesion will be made.   I will also expect them to work on that trial!!!.  You have indeed if you want  more replies.  £5 a day will get you over a 50-100 in a 2 week period.

[simon w]

What are your experiences of using Facebook to recruit window cleaners?