[Ian_Giles]

I agree with Squeaks on the method for doing them trad, it is quick and it does a good job.
Nonetheless you have to beware of going to fast, on leaded in particular, faint smears can be left behind that will show up in direct sunlight.

The average window with WFP will take somewhere around 30/40 seconds to do, it is very unlikely you can trad clean a window that has 3 standard size casement style leaded panes.
And I would be more than happy to stopwatch someone such as Squeaks doing them trad, perhaps Roger should stopwatch himself...he might be surprised, I would doubt he would do a window such as I have just described in under 40 seconds...it might feel really quick, but it will be longer than that.
Plus of course the quality of the clean has to count too.
The 30/40 seconds I've allowed for WFP is also a very generous timescale, and anyone using WFP would clean such a window in that time with ease.
And on upstairs windows trad would be slower again due to climbing and moving the ladder if nothing else.

another point to consider if spraying and buffing is even faster than using a squeegee on a similar non leaded window...why bother using a squeegee at all?

The answer is easy of course, the squeegee is faster and does a better job, were you to use this method on normal windows you would get smears all over the place.
but failing WFP, a proprietary brand of window cleanig spray (Tesco's own brand is I think the best, and cheapest to) and a microfibre cloth is the next best way of dealing with leaded windows.

Ian

[Cleaner Windows]

LMAO what have i started

[Cleaner Windows]

I agree with Squeaks on the method for doing them trad, it is quick and it does a good job.
Nonetheless you have to beware of going to fast, on leaded in particular, faint smears can be left behind that will show up in direct sunlight.

The average window with WFP will take somewhere around 30/40 seconds to do, it is very unlikely you can trad clean a window that has 3 standard size casement style leaded panes.
And I would be more than happy to stopwatch someone such as Squeaks doing them trad, perhaps Roger should stopwatch himself...he might be surprised, I would doubt he would do a window such as I have just described in under 40 seconds...it might feel really quick, but it will be longer than that.
Plus of course the quality of the clean has to count too.
The 30/40 seconds I've allowed for WFP is also a very generous timescale, and anyone using WFP would clean such a window in that time with ease.
And on upstairs windows trad would be slower again due to climbing and moving the ladder if nothing else.

another point to consider if spraying and buffing is even faster than using a squeegee on a similar non leaded window...why bother using a squeegee at all?

The answer is easy of course, the squeegee is faster and does a better job, were you to use this method on normal windows you would get smears all over the place.
but failing WFP, a proprietary brand of window cleanig spray (Tesco's own brand is I think the best, and cheapest to) and a microfibre cloth is the next best way of dealing with leaded windows.

Ian

ian thanks for the advice looks like ive started the beginnings of another debate tho

[LSB]

some window cleaners in my area also dont do leaded lights ! maybe im mad but i do , and dont charge extra , i just accept that they may need a little extra elbow grease , but they dont actually take any longer !

[windows_chepstow]

I do a small leaded windowed hotel; approximately 30 rooms, conference room and reception area; it's 80% leaded windows.

There's no chance you can do large-leaded windows quicker by hand than you can with WFP. 

This job used to take two of us; outside only; two hours.  Now, by myself using a WFP, I've got it down to around 1hr 20 minutes.

And if you claim to do this sort of work faster by hand-bashing than using a WFP, you must be well muscled and fit, probably by doing some one-handed work-outs to a Cindy Crawford keep-fit video.

Chaps, read between the lines.

[Cleaner Windows]

I do a small leaded windowed hotel; approximately 30 rooms, conference room and reception area; it's 80% leaded windows.

There's no chance you can do large-leaded windows quicker by hand than you can with WFP. 

This job used to take two of us; outside only; two hours.  Now, by myself using a WFP, I've got it down to around 1hr 20 minutes.

And if you claim to do this sort of work faster by hand-bashing than using a WFP, you must be well muscled and fit, probably by doing some one-handed work-outs to a Cindy Crawford keep-fit video.

Chaps, read between the lines.

LOL..nice one tosh

[Sir Squeaky]

one-handed work-outs to a Cindy Crawford keep-fit video.

She's closer to your age than mine..... 

[macc]

She's closer to your age than mine..... 

When you get to our age you will be wfp. 

Macc