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James pryer

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Sealing driveway
« on: March 20, 2021, 03:15:20 am »
Hi all,

On a pressure washing job and  customer has asked if I can seal the drive way afterwards.
It’s block paving.

Is it just as simple as applying one coat evenly across the driveway? The block paving looks slightly faded after pressure washing. Will this help darken the paving and make it look richer?
As you can tell I’ve never done this so a few tips and advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks 

Smudger

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Re: Sealing driveway
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2021, 09:53:15 am »
Why do they want it sealed - that’s the question - if it’s to keep it clean or weed free then it’s a waste of time - I won’t seal drives - too time consuming and costly

Are you using acrylic based or impregnating sealer ?

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

James pryer

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Re: Sealing driveway
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2021, 11:34:18 am »
The customer wants the block paving colour enhanced. I have said sealing is not necessary but I think they like the idea of sealing it and money isn’t a problem for them...

Was just going to use Thomson sealer which I believe is polyurethane.

Yada Yada Yada - www.m-clean.uk

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Re: Sealing driveway
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2021, 12:21:25 pm »
The customer has asked you to offer a service that you have no experience in, have you told them that you haven't sealed a drive before?


Yada Yada Yada - www.m-clean.uk

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Re: Sealing driveway
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2021, 12:36:57 pm »
This could be a costly way of learning.

Get someone who knows what they are doing to do it and shadow them, if it goes wrong then it's their problem.

You're getting sound advice from people who have experience & your questions have been asked many many times on here, the answers have remained consistent.

Someone must be successfully sealing drives and there must be a real opportunity if so many don't want/avoid  the service, gain experience through subbing your sealing jobs and then when you have the confidence become the expert but don't do it the other way round.

Just to mix it up a little.

We've all go to start somewhere and if people had told me I couldn't or shouldn't that would have been the reason to go for it.

Kev Martin

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Re: Sealing driveway
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2021, 03:58:40 pm »
The customer wants the block paving colour enhanced. I have said sealing is not necessary but I think they like the idea of sealing it and money isn’t a problem for them...

Was just going to use Thomson sealer which I believe is polyurethane.

If you use TWS on it you will in my opinion be making a big mistake.  We make a fortune every year selling clients the products to remove TWS .
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James pryer

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Re: Sealing driveway
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2021, 06:25:28 pm »
So it’s not as simple as the YouTube videos make out? Which is essentially watching someone do it in front of me. However I am not loosing a decent wage by subbing the work out. I understand that I can ask the professional questions but that’s what a forum is for as well as getting more than one opinion.  Is there not an sealant that is simply sprayed/ rolled on? It looks to be a simple DIY job.

Are these videos a poor method of sealing your drive?
https://youtu.be/_brpvgnsIKU
https://youtu.be/jdf8J2qySwI
https://youtu.be/kcLXpIPvo9w

Understand that this can be a costly price if done wrong but I can’t see what could go wrong if I use the right product..

Thanks

Smudger

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Re: Sealing driveway
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2021, 07:13:14 pm »
That's correct - the right product - you were going to use  Thompson water seal a product sold to joe public

At the very least as a professional you should use  a trade product, why, because it gives better and longer lasting results

I'm not against you sealing the drive, for me the time/money earnt  is poor to the £££'s made when
Cleaning, you are also tied up waiting for good weather

I don't think as a biz you should go spread a sealer over a drive without knowing or practising on something first - with the age of  Facebook an error could be more an financial cost.

Around my unit is a car park and brick weave  parking - concrete paths - clad dead and brick walls - any new lad  cleans these before hitting the customer trail

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

James pryer

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Re: Sealing driveway
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2021, 09:06:36 pm »
Hi,

Got it thanks. I can see now that SCREWFIX doesn’t cut it and after reading a few more professional reviews it’s not always worth it sealing. And as you say cost effective. I like giving my customer the full package if they are asking for it. I thought i was missing something, sealing a drive looked easy enough. I will do some research into a suitable sealer.

Cheers

Yada Yada Yada - www.m-clean.uk

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Re: Sealing driveway
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2021, 09:33:16 pm »
Everyone who has replied has been on here for a long time and has helped many many many new starters - we understand what the forum is about and give freely.

There's no gain to Kevin, Darran or myself by giving our time replying.

You've made up your mind, you're doing the job because it is needed finances and there's no judgement on that but you're going to pop down to B&Q for your sealer (mistake number 1).

You've watched the Youtube videos and believe it to be a simple DIY job (mistake number 2) - watching someone who knows what they are doing doesn't make it any easier, he isn't going to show you his 1st attempts.

If I want to be picky, in the 1st video he pours the sealer into his bucket on the Tarmac and the Tarmac is covered with splashes around the bucket - I'd have poured it into the bucket on the block and brushed any splashes out evenly or used a funnel.

He might have cleaned it up but the video didn't show that he did.

How will you get the dried sealant out of Tarmac if you do the same?

He does know what he is doing and experience gives him the confidence to put the videos out there, his experience makes the process look easy.

That drive is bone dry, how will your experience determine that the sub base is as dry as it should be, that if the drive is sloped the top and bottom will be dry enough because if it has any slope they won't dry at the same rate.

What about the weather? - you try and guarantee enough of a dry period in this country to get the sealer down and then give 12 - 24 hours of drying time afterwards.

You book it in in two weeks time but the weather changes, what do you do?

Maybe you put it off two or three times because of this then it's started soiling because you've already cleaned it - you're sealing dirt & detritus into it.

Client doesn't see any of this, they just want a sealed drive and you're letting them down

Smudger

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Re: Sealing driveway
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2021, 09:43:44 pm »
here's my example for you...

For time to time I need stuff welded - my ex worker used to do it, but he's moved on - im an ex engineer and understand metal and welding  so I brought a little Clarke mig welder watched a couple of videos and set about making a frame...

well you haven't seen such sh!t in all your life - a whack with a hammer and it fell apart ! - mig welding looks a piece of pee but without practice its not as easy as it looks

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

James pryer

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Re: Sealing driveway
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2021, 11:31:57 pm »
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