[Roy Harding]

Tosh it happens as you say.

But I would have pointed out that they were missing areas, and that my price would be for every window. But if they wanted me to qoute for main areas and miss out others my qoute would be about the same as theres.

No matter how you wrap it up its not proffesional. Window cleanners that do this get the proffesion a bad reputaion.

I have qouted for contracts and been a lot more monney than there window cleanner they have, and walked away with the job. And have done them for many a year.

In my book if you miss out windows that you say you are going to clean, then you are taking monney by  fraud and deception, its no better than sticking your hand through a open window and taking monney off the window sill.

I do no it happens, some say thats bussiness.

Roy

[windows_chepstow]

It's good to get a balanced view, Roy; but having dealt with budgets in a previous occupation; managers get promoted by spending LESS on their bugets than what they've been allocated.

For example, the manager of this hotel will be mainly rated by his turnover and his expenditure.  (Staff sickness and staff turnover would be other indicators; but in the hotel industry which is transient by nature anyway; I bet they're not that important).

What'll happen is a manager will receive a budget setting limits on how much money he can spend on staff wages, transport, furniture, window cleaning etc.  If he goes over budget, he'll be in trouble and will be called to justify the extra expenditure. 

Conversly, if he spends a small fraction of the allocated budget, and the place still functions smoothly, he'll get lots of Brownie Points.

If he can increase the turnover and reduce his expenditure; he's happy.  Okay, so some of the windows aren't great; as long as the main ones are and the place doesn't look like a dump, and the price is cheap; Bob's your uncle.

[Roy Harding]

Tosh

Your spot on.

But why not say at the ouset to him you want to work within his bugget for that year. So to keep with in his bugget we will do x y and z. Then he is happy as he will be not going to over spend and your not being paid for what you havent done.

Work on a contract agreement that suits there requirements.

I have agrements with some hotels that I do, that come the end of September they go to 8 wkly instead of 4 wkly. We both know where we stand no under handeness.

With buggets I have towards the end of there financial year drop doing a clean to remain within bugget. But this has been worked out before hand.

Or ask what they want to spend on  the cleaning and tel him what he will get for that amount of monney.

Roy

[Trevor Knight]

Hi Trev

What are you saying? miss out areas that wont be noticed so easly?

roy

Hi Roy,

Yes, thats what I am saying. I will be honest with any questions on here and this is an honest answer. I appreciate its not the "correct" way of doing the work but it is the "only" way to price and get the contract. Although this is a hit and miss approach it is also the way to clean these type of underpriced commercial contracts.

Commercial contracts are not the "song and dance" people think. They are not loyal, will dump you at the drop of a hat, want everything for nothing etc.....

Domestic is far more enjoyable, customer rapour, friendly faces, pay on time etc...

Best wishes,

Trev

[AuRavelling79]

I wouldn't feel right about working that way.  It may cost me work but at least i can look in the mirror.

Assuming you've cleaned it first, eh, Shiner?

[Paul Coleman]

I wouldn't feel right about working that way.  It may cost me work but at least i can look in the mirror.

Assuming you've cleaned it first, eh, Shiner?

 

[gaza]

VERY INTERESTING: How the other half works I feel guilty if I miss out a frosted bathroom window.

 gaza

[P @ F]

I dont miss any windows , but one thing i have stopped doing is rinsing the frosed glass , took me 14 months to wake up to the idea but then , how can you see spots through it ?

 Rich   P @ F