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Smudger

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #220 on: February 04, 2021, 11:36:32 pm »
No it’s not but the only people that will buy into it are people that know absolutely nothing about being self employed and the service industry,it will attract someone that has for example redundancy and wants a change from office work.
My opinion obviously you’d never attract anyone that’s cleaned a window for someone else unless they were caught  chewing  wallpaper in the corner whilst dribbling.
This has got to be one of the easiest businesses in history to get started in.


Says the man who couldn't even start his own business  ;D ;D ;D
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

NWH

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #221 on: February 05, 2021, 12:06:25 am »
Lol you know very little how are those 🐒 of yours Smudger I hope you’re feeding em well  🍌.

NWH

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #222 on: February 05, 2021, 12:13:19 am »
I’ll offer any advise to someone wanting to start window cleaning shall we say £5000,full training given learning to actually do the job will take months but as far as setting up goes by the time you’ve finished you’re coffee you’ll get the gist I’ll tell you what we can go Over that on the way to the bank.
Get any problems give me a call don’t forget I want my ongoing 10% lol,where you getting these people from 🤣🤣🤣.

Frankybadboy

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #223 on: February 06, 2021, 06:37:14 pm »
I’ll offer any advise to someone wanting to start window cleaning shall we say £5000,full training given learning to actually do the job will take months but as far as setting up goes by the time you’ve finished you’re coffee you’ll get the gist I’ll tell you what we can go Over that on the way to the bank.
Get any problems give me a call don’t forget I want my ongoing 10% lol,where you getting these people from 🤣🤣🤣.
surely you must have to pay your father  ::)roll ::)roll ;D ;D ;D

NWH

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #224 on: February 06, 2021, 08:30:58 pm »
My father is Dead frankie just like your personality or the person you go to bed with,and I wouldn’t give him a penny m8 I brought it back from the dead do you want some tips 🤣🤣🤣

supernova77

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #225 on: February 12, 2021, 02:16:21 pm »

KS Cleaning

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deeege

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #227 on: February 12, 2021, 03:12:31 pm »
Just leaving this here for NWH...

https://www.flipsnack.com/iconicwindowcleaning/iconic-window-cleaning-franchise-prospectus.html

 ;D

Couple of  Questions Andy.

In your info you advertise that the expected turnover in year 1 is £48930.00.

Do you think that is achievable and realistic baring in mind that you will be supplying them with no work?

In year 2 the expected turnover is £56269.00

If it’s possible to pick up £48k of work in year 1, why only an extra £7k in the second year?

"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

supernova77

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #228 on: February 12, 2021, 03:23:56 pm »
Just leaving this here for NWH...

https://www.flipsnack.com/iconicwindowcleaning/iconic-window-cleaning-franchise-prospectus.html

 ;D

Couple of  Questions Andy.

In your info you advertise that the expected turnover in year 1 is £48930.00.

Do you think that is achievable and realistic baring in mind that you will be supplying them with no work?

In year 2 the expected turnover is £56269.00

If it’s possible to pick up £48k of work in year 1, why only an extra £7k in the second year?



Good questions.

Yes the £48930 should be achievable with our marketing help.

In year 2 they will have less time to get new work in,  year 2 and 3 will be all about refining their customer base so that the end of year 3 target is achievable.

Smudger

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #229 on: February 12, 2021, 03:48:52 pm »
small point here first year as stated just shy of 49K earning or is it 49k of work on your books? as Deege said that seems high considering its from a standing start ....

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

NWH

  • Posts: 16952
Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #230 on: February 12, 2021, 03:51:19 pm »
M8 I’ve already read this on that website a week or 2 weeks ago when we were talking about this,I’ve made my views clear about it I’m surprised tbh that you haven’t been had for copyright by now with that name I’ve known people get caught for less.
All I can say is on the matter without dragging all this up again is that if I sat down with one of you’re potentials they might think again once I’d had a chat with them as I’ve said it’s easy to get setup.
Much love and peace on earth 😘

NWH

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #231 on: February 12, 2021, 03:55:33 pm »
I know people that have been doing it years and don’t see that return albeit they are happy enough plodding but it’s not physically easy cleaning that amount to a good standard when you don’t know what you are doing and after 2 years you are still learning,ok a grand a week any window cleaner that’s been at it years should be doing that off of a ladder but you don’t get 5 straight days at 200 a day weather etc and holidays,if you want a 1000 a week cleaning windows every week I’d aim for 1500 you might get somewhere close.

KS Cleaning

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #232 on: February 12, 2021, 04:22:20 pm »
Don’t want to sound to critical but I really don’t like businesses using the words ‘ head office ’ unless of course you do have a head office? but more times than not the reality is they are actually trading from a residential address.

Stoots

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #233 on: February 12, 2021, 04:29:39 pm »
I like the flipbook idea, think i will pinch that for my website.

Looks good

NWH

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #234 on: February 12, 2021, 04:40:10 pm »
It reads realistic and achievable like I say I’d like to see  a  lot of window cleaners that have been at a while agree with you lol,someone that’s not done this job before learn how everything works they then have to know where they are going from job to job,they then need to know how and where to set up at each job to make it easier to clean.
2 years from scratch and also adding to the fact they’ve never cleaned a window and they’ve got to get the work,anyone who thinks on the whole this is “achievable “ is a fool.
Buy a round you’ll lose work for different reasons people liked them they don’t like you,the other guy did a better job the list is endless but you from day one  you advertise for more work you leaflet and replace lost jobs,you invest money and you learn as you go   this is tangible although some may say it’s goodwill it’s better than someone selling you a dream called “Bulls**T”.

NWH

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #235 on: February 12, 2021, 04:43:46 pm »
I could set this up tomorrow i wouldn’t do it to someone then again I wouldn’t take candy from a baby either.

NWH

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #236 on: February 12, 2021, 04:47:32 pm »
I’m just gonna go and put the kettle on at my head office oh sorry I mean I’m going to the kitchen 🤣🤣

cgh window cleaning

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #237 on: February 12, 2021, 04:58:58 pm »
At just over £15.5k buy in and they still have to buy a van and don't have a single customer to clean I really can't see the appeal of your franchise over others.

Good luck to you and your time is money to teach them, but any one buying into this is probably incapable of running their own business.

Ched

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #238 on: February 12, 2021, 04:59:10 pm »
someone that’s not done this job before learn how everything works they then have to know where they are going from job to job,they then need to know how and where to set up at each job to make it easier to clean.
2 years from scratch and also adding to the fact they’ve never cleaned a window and they’ve got to get the work,anyone who thinks on the whole this is “achievable “ is a fool.
Isn't that sort of the point with franchising - i.e. to not have to learn how things work, what marketing works, how to play your jobs, how to setup for each job etc. A franchise is all about using tried and trusted methods to quickly be up to speed and earn big in first year.
I'm not saying I would buy a windy franchise but there are advantages to having the whole system packaged up and bought plus on going support and advice from someone who has the years of knowledge on the job.

Think about it, what the franchisee is paying for is a quick jump forwards and not having to spend years refining how they manage things and work. They will still have a lot of learning to do but will probably be 2 years ahead of a new starter relying purely on themselves.

Imagine yourself back the first year you started. Could you have started your business faster knowing the knowledge you have now? I guess the answer is Yes. OK so skills on the glass will still take time, a long time to master, but a franchisee will have a head start on someone with zero experience.

NWH

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Re: Thinking of franchising
« Reply #239 on: February 12, 2021, 05:10:10 pm »
Wrong a person buying an established round-business would be gradually handed over you’d work it with them for at least a few months if you wanted top dollar for it,the customers would be more inclined to give them a chance so there’s less comeback on the person that had it for years.

You said it more or less yourself anyone buying into this wouldn’t know anything about being self employed or going into business on their own hence doing it in the first place,someone is paying money in this case for a chat on how to do it off you go thanks very much leave the envelope stuffed with cash on the table please,this shouldn’t even be up for a debate only a right 🍋 would go this route but maybe that’s what they look out for.