[deeege]

Embarrassing yourself even more than usual here Nigel.

[NWH]

Please tell me I don’t know 2 bags a week.

[dd]

Nigel must suffer from some kind of OCD to continuously post a complete load of bo££ocks.

[KS Cleaning]

Nigel is a hypocrite plain and simple. A few days ago he was as good as tickling Dave Morris’ sphincter,  yet he tells anyone else who dares to run a successful multi van window cleaning business or franchise that they must clean houses for peanuts and employ monkeys and that they can’t possibly be making a decent profit. What’s more he can’t even decide if he himself employs or not, one minute he works alone, then he trips himself up and says there’s a couple of them, then he falls over himself and says there are three of them, all of this whilst staying under the VAT threshold despite an hourly rate of £100  per man.
 I would take everything Nigel says with a pinch of salt as he talks some💩

[Perfect Windows]

Have 2 vans full of work and the customers keep coming in every week! So its either start getting rid of a few or franchise, as dont want the hassle of another van and more employees, but not quite sure were to start with franchising, I know Ian Lancaster was selling a package a few years back but not sure if he still is.  Anyond else on here that has went down franchising route?

A few points:

Ian Lancaster is still selling the franchising package. It's worth every penny. It's clear from dealing with Ian over the past few years that he's not doing this to become rich; he's doing it because he believes in it. Part of the package is support after you're going. If you're going to do it, please do speak to Ian. He's utterly approachable and very knowedgeable.

His contract is proven in court. Someone tried to take business themselves and Ian won. This leads to a second point. On this subject, ignore each and every word posted by one particular person. I'll leave you to work out who is posting the nonsense.

Like everything else, franchising is a trade-off. You take less cash but you also take on less hassle than you would employing.

The four most crucial aspects of franchising:

1. Get the contract right. Skimping on it is a false economy as there may come a time when your business relies on it. If you're going to have your own done, find a solicitor who specialises in franchising.

2. Get the right people. You need people who have been in steady employment who have realised that working for someone else is not the be all and end all of life.

3. Always be there for support and advice. If you're feeling like a day off or if you've just started your dinner and a franchisee has an urgent problem, go and deal with it.

4. And this is the most important one. So important that it's on an engraved sign above my desk. Always do what's in the best interests of the franchisees.



Vin

[Perfect Windows]

ONE piece of advice from Vin will literally save me thousands upon thousands of pounds! 

Bugger. I'd have charged if I'd known. And I don't even know what the advice was. No, don't post it: let me know when you see me.

Vin

[NWH]

Nigel is a hypocrite plain and simple. A few days ago he was as good as tickling Dave Morris’ sphincter,  yet he tells anyone else who dares to run a successful multi van window cleaning business or franchise that they must clean houses for peanuts and employ monkeys and that they can’t possibly be making a decent profit. What’s more he can’t even decide if he himself employs or not, one minute he works alone, then he trips himself up and says there’s a couple of them, then he falls over himself and says there are three of them, all of this whilst staying under the VAT threshold despite an hourly rate of £100 per man.
 I would take everything Nigel says with a pinch of salt as he talks some💩

😩 🧂 🧂

[NWH]

Numbers Numbers I want Numbers.

[KS Cleaning]

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. There you go, play away.

[Perfect Windows]

NWH, I'm going to ask you a question that should have a simple answer (but I won't hold my breath, eh?). Is it possible that both employing AND franchising work?

[Clever Forum Name]

ONE piece of advice from Vin will literally save me thousands upon thousands of pounds! 

Bugger. I'd have charged if I'd known. And I don't even know what the advice was. No, don't post it: let me know when you see me.

Vin

In 2016 I had this made. It was above my bedroom door in my parents house and I looked at it every morning before setting off to work.



I don't really give much advice on franchising tbh as i'm certainly no expert and I don't want the competition in my area!

As for numbers, 2k? A week? From window cleaning? LOL! Next you'll be telling me leaflets work and i can run a multi million pound domestic window cleaning business.

[WGB]

Have 2 vans full of work and the customers keep coming in every week! So its either start getting rid of a few or franchise, as dont want the hassle of another van and more employees, but not quite sure were to start with franchising, I know Ian Lancaster was selling a package a few years back but not sure if he still is.  Anyond else on here that has went down franchising route?

A few points:

Ian Lancaster is still selling the franchising package. It's worth every penny. It's clear from dealing with Ian over the past few years that he's not doing this to become rich; he's doing it because he believes in it. Part of the package is support after you're going. If you're going to do it, please do speak to Ian. He's utterly approachable and very knowedgeable.

His contract is proven in court. Someone tried to take business themselves and Ian won. This leads to a second point. On this subject, ignore each and every word posted by one particular person. I'll leave you to work out who is posting the nonsense.

Like everything else, franchising is a trade-off. You take less cash but you also take on less hassle than you would employing.

The four most crucial aspects of franchising:

1. Get the contract right. Skimping on it is a false economy as there may come a time when your business relies on it. If you're going to have your own done, find a solicitor who specialises in franchising.

2. Get the right people. You need people who have been in steady employment who have realised that working for someone else is not the be all and end all of life.

3. Always be there for support and advice. If you're feeling like a day off or if you've just started your dinner and a franchisee has an urgent problem, go and deal with it.

4. And this is the most important one. So important that it's on an engraved sign above my desk. Always do what's in the best interests of the franchisees.



Vin

Vin i was actually going to drop you an email today to ask about Ians system, but i think you have answered most of my questions in that post, as much as his system should be beneficial it was more the ongoing support that i think would be more beneficial to myself when stepping into something like franchising. Did you have to update his system at all vin? Or good to go as it is?

And yes i do know which particular person your talking about, quite amusing actually 

[Perfect Windows]

Wayne,

Drop me an email.

Vin

[WGB]

Wayne,

Drop me an email.

Vin

email sent

[Smudger]

Nice to see you here vin!

There is no right or wrong way to expand your buisness - and thats if you want/need to

Employing is one way - Franchising is another ( I think its more popular than you think I am regularly asked if I'm prt of a franchise )

You have to do what is right for you, gather information, do the maths and work hard at making it work.




Of course, I did forget the very best way to get a window cleaning biz....


And thats ponce it off your hard working dad who worked his fingers to the bone for 40 years  - and pretend you know what you're talking about.

[Perfect Windows]

There is no right or wrong way to expand your buisness - and thats if you want/need to

I should have made that clear. I've chosen expansion. I know guys in Southampton who are perfectly happy as one man bands. I know one who's happy to earn enough each morning that he can go to the pub for the afternoon every day. None of us is wrong in that basic decision. If you can't start a business to do what you want to do, what hope is there?

Vin

[NWH]

Nice to see you here vin!

There is no right or wrong way to expand your buisness - and thats if you want/need to

Employing is one way - Franchising is another ( I think its more popular than you think I am regularly asked if I'm prt of a franchise )

You have to do what is right for you, gather information, do the maths and work hard at making it work.




Of course, I did forget the very best way to get a window cleaning biz....


And thats ponce it off your hard working dad who worked his fingers to the bone for 40 years  - and pretend you know what you're talking about.

Still no numbers coming up on here I want to know the numbers,Hi I’m thinking of franchising how much can I expect to earn from it.
I don’t want to be turning over a lot of money so I can look good at the bank because as you know cash is king  and I don’t want to be zeroing out month after month with profit and loss,I also don’t want to be giving someone 50 bags of work a year for a poxy 15-20% return 🤣🤣💩.

[Mike Burd]

There is no right or wrong way to expand your buisness - and thats if you want/need to

I should have made that clear. I've chosen expansion. I know guys in Southampton who are perfectly happy as one man bands. I know one who's happy to earn enough each morning that he can go to the pub for the afternoon every day. None of us is wrong in that basic decision. If you can't start a business to do what you want to do, what hope is there?

Vin

My single mate just stays under the VAT threshold and earns a shocking wage and owns a small house he rents out as well as a 4 bed detached he paid over £500k for. There’s amazing money to be made as a stand alone. Only thing is he can’t get ill.

[Perfect Windows]

Still no numbers coming up on here I want to know the numbers,Hi I’m thinking of franchising how much can I expect to earn from it.
I don’t want to be turning over a lot of money so I can look good at the bank because as you know cash is king  and I don’t want to be zeroing out month after month with profit and loss,I also don’t want to be giving someone 50 bags of work a year for a poxy 15-20% return 🤣🤣💩.

You can expect to earn exactly as much as you want. You can franchise to have a second van on the road. You can franchise and have three hundred and seventy vans on the road. Which numbers do you want? Which would convince you it was a good or bad idea?

I'm perfectly happy to give someone literally any amount of business that they could handle. No matter how many "bags" it was. I don't give it to them every year. Why would I? That would be really stupid and nobody would ever do it or want to do it.

By the way, the last time I posted numbers you made all the same objections, but not necessarily in the same order. Some things never change. You might want to read through that for the answer to your objections (I won't honour them by referring to them as "questions") on this thread.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=201020.0

Vin

P.S. You still haven't answered my simple question above.

[NWH]

You would have to be as green as grass to buy into a window cleaning franchise or have 0 experience in running a business or being self employed,when I hear franchising and window cleaning discussed the the No 1 main thing that comes up every time is about the contract that needs to be drawn up,we all know why this is god forbid someone buys into it with half a brain and smells the coffee after a year or so.
There would be a lot of people that would right off the fee they originally paid and go it alone and put it down to experience once they see how easy it is to set up on their own,come on now it ain’t open heart surgery,apart from the obvious franchises we all drive past on a weekly basis others are looking for a certain kind of person.