[Splash & dash]

Just been on the HMRC Webinar and what a load of poope that was.  So much conflicting information.

This is something they published though on a Presentation.

3. Situations not meeting the eligibility criteria
Example A: increased costs
Chloe is an electrician; she’s still trading but has had increased costs due to buying masks,
cleaning supplies and screens.
Chloe is not eligible for the third grant because increased costs were the only impact on her
business, and she has not lost customers.
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
Third grant
OFFICIAL

Example B: self-isolating following trip abroad
Ash, a dentist, returns from a holiday abroad and has to self-isolate for 14 days due to
quarantine rules.
As this is the only impact on her business, Ash is not eligible to claim the third grant. This is
because reduced demand due to self-isolation after foreign travel is not included in the
eligibility criteria.

Example C: voluntary reduction in business activity
John, an accountant, reduces his business activity because he wants to partially retire. He
reasonably believes this will have a significant reduction on his trading profits.
John is not eligible for third grant because the reduced business activity was not caused by
coronavirus.

Example D: voluntary reduction in business activity
Liz is a dog walker. One of her clients cancels a contract due to coronavirus. Liz could look
for additional work to replace the contract, but she chooses not to.
This means her business activity and her trading profits are reduced through choice, and not
because of coronavirus.
Liz is not eligible for the third grant.

This Example D worrys me.  How many of us claimed on the basis of lost work/contracts/demand.  But they are now saying that if you didn't replace the work, then you chose not to increase your income, so therefore you are not elligle.

WTF.  Guess we are all screwed guys.

But if you temporarily have a job cancel let’s say a hotel as they have to shut and the clean price is £600 every 4 weeks , you cannot easily replace that , Evan if you picked up 10 x£20 houses you are still out of pocket so you should be able to claim .

Mullion Cove Hotel? Hmm.... might have to put a tender in for £500 

No that’s a lot more than that 😂😂😂 I was using that figure as an example , we don’t qualify for the grant anyway ,pity really as we have a couple of dozen jobs much bigger than that that have been stop start since March .

[KS Cleaning]

Just been on the HMRC Webinar and what a load of poope that was.  So much conflicting information.

This is something they published though on a Presentation.

3. Situations not meeting the eligibility criteria
Example A: increased costs
Chloe is an electrician; she’s still trading but has had increased costs due to buying masks,
cleaning supplies and screens.
Chloe is not eligible for the third grant because increased costs were the only impact on her
business, and she has not lost customers.
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
Third grant
OFFICIAL

Example B: self-isolating following trip abroad
Ash, a dentist, returns from a holiday abroad and has to self-isolate for 14 days due to
quarantine rules.
As this is the only impact on her business, Ash is not eligible to claim the third grant. This is
because reduced demand due to self-isolation after foreign travel is not included in the
eligibility criteria.

Example C: voluntary reduction in business activity
John, an accountant, reduces his business activity because he wants to partially retire. He
reasonably believes this will have a significant reduction on his trading profits.
John is not eligible for third grant because the reduced business activity was not caused by
coronavirus.

Example D: voluntary reduction in business activity
Liz is a dog walker. One of her clients cancels a contract due to coronavirus. Liz could look
for additional work to replace the contract, but she chooses not to.
This means her business activity and her trading profits are reduced through choice, and not
because of coronavirus.
Liz is not eligible for the third grant.

This Example D worrys me.  How many of us claimed on the basis of lost work/contracts/demand.  But they are now saying that if you didn't replace the work, then you chose not to increase your income, so therefore you are not elligle.

WTF.  Guess we are all screwed guys.

But if you temporarily have a job cancel let’s say a hotel as they have to shut and the clean price is £600 every 4 weeks , you cannot easily replace that , Evan if you picked up 10 x£20 houses you are still out of pocket so you should be able to claim .

Mullion Cove Hotel? Hmm.... might have to put a tender in for £500 

No that’s a lot more than that 😂😂😂 I was using that figure as an example , we don’t qualify for the grant anyway ,pity really as we have a couple of dozen jobs much bigger than that that have been stop start since March .

You da man😂😂

[G Griffin]

f*** me. How many grants are you guys getting?

If you can't work, what are you going to do? 

What’s stopping you working?

Me personally? Isolating, schools closing and shops and restaurants closing.
I reckon others will have similar reasons or they might have even had the virus.

[zesty]

I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.

[Mike Burd]

I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.

I’m not self employed but it won’taffect us as we’re domestic pretty much.

[Don Kee]

I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.

I’m not self employed but it won’taffect us as we’re domestic pretty much.

Zesty said “a lot more self employed”  not “just 8weekly on the window cleaning forum”...

[G Griffin]

It is a self employed grant  .

[simon w]

I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.

Providing they can show on their tax returns they've earn't  less due to the covid not easy to do for most WC as we've had a free hand to get out and work throughout

[NWH]

Griff is this to do with coronavirus by any chance 🤣

[Mike Burd]

I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.

I’m not self employed but it won’taffect us as we’re domestic pretty much.

Zesty said “a lot more self employed”  not “just 8weekly on the window cleaning forum”...

I assume he was referring to window cleaners though? Tier 4 restrictions make no difference to domestic window cleaners. I'm in tier 4 but cleaning domestics in tiers 2 & 4. One of my guys lives in tier 2 and will be cleaning in 2 & 4.

[pikeman]

Hard call really wife got it so had to isolate for 14 days. so will be down 2 weeks work. Not a lot really. Claimed the last 2 grants as a few customers had to isolate and put a price increase on hold till next year.

[KS Cleaning]

I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.

I’m not self employed but it won’taffect us as we’re domestic pretty much.

Zesty said “a lot more self employed”  not “just 8weekly on the window cleaning forum”...

I assume he was referring to window cleaners though? Tier 4 restrictions make no difference to domestic window cleaners. I'm in tier 4 but cleaning domestics in tiers 2 & 4. One of my guys lives in tier 2 and will be cleaning in 2 & 4.

How can you be so sure that other domestic window cleaners aren’t affected?

[Mike Burd]

I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.

I’m not self employed but it won’taffect us as we’re domestic pretty much.

Zesty said “a lot more self employed”  not “just 8weekly on the window cleaning forum”...

I assume he was referring to window cleaners though? Tier 4 restrictions make no difference to domestic window cleaners. I'm in tier 4 but cleaning domestics in tiers 2 & 4. One of my guys lives in tier 2 and will be cleaning in 2 & 4.

How can you be so sure that other domestic window cleaners aren’t affected?

Because I know lots around here and absolutely none of them are.

[G Griffin]

Griff is this to do with coronavirus by any chance 🤣

Sort of.
Are you still getting bullied, Nigel?

[KS Cleaning]

I put this in the other non cleaning section, hope it’s ok to put it on here?
Most won’t understand a word of it anyway 😂

[NWH]

Griff is this to do with coronavirus by any chance 🤣

Sort of.
Are you still getting bullied, Nigel?

No never I bet you are loving this new strain 🤣🤣🤣

[G Griffin]

Griff is this to do with coronavirus by any chance 🤣

Sort of.
Are you still getting bullied, Nigel?

No never I bet you are loving this new strain 🤣🤣🤣

No, it's worrying.
Not as worrying as someone not using hot water, doing compact work or you getting bullied though  .

[Mike Burd]

Griff is this to do with coronavirus by any chance 🤣

Sort of.
Are you still getting bullied, Nigel?

No never I bet you are loving this new strain 🤣🤣🤣

That's funny. 

[NWH]

12 months time who’s claiming the 20th grant 🤣🤣🤣

[KS Cleaning]

12 months time who’s claiming the 20th grant 🤣🤣🤣

I take it maths isn’t your strong point? That would equate to a further 16 grants in an 8 month period🤣🤣🤣