[G Griffin]

f*** me. How many grants are you guys getting?

Me, not a single penny. I would if I was eligible.

That's one of the things wrong with them. So much help for some- me included- and so little for others.

[steve rix]

Any of you sole traders who take all three just be careful it doesn't push you over the vat threshold if your not wanting or planning on doing so. As I know a lot of window cleaners who work solo try hard to keep just under the threshold.

You have to be under £50k profit to even claim it mate, so no chance anyone on here who is claiming will be anywhere near a turnover of £80k odd.

World of difference between profit and turnover

[Arnold Palmer]

There is only one Grant.

[Ggh]

f*** me. How many grants are you guys getting?

If you can't work, what are you going to do? 

What’s stopping you working?

[dazmond]

Most of us dont need the grant at all.....we re window cleaners!

This business is....

1.recession proof
2.coronavirus proof

Unless of course your mainly commercial and relying on big chunks of income from large jobs.......

[Arnold Palmer]

Most of us dont need the grant at all.....we re window cleaners!

This business is....

1.recession proof
2.coronavirus proof

Unless of course your mainly commercial and relying on big chunks of income from large jobs.......

Or your personal circumstances + global pandemic = stay at home.

[zesty]

Most of us dont need the grant at all.....we re window cleaners!

This business is....

1.recession proof
2.coronavirus proof

Unless of course your mainly commercial and relying on big chunks of income from large jobs.......

Yes mate, keep in mind those that lost and still have lost commercial.

I was £1000 down in March, April, May.

Still effected to this day, but my profits are good, so this 3rd grant isn’t for me at the moment.

There is such a variation in work, it’s a very personal thing

[deeege]

Around £8k-£10k down in lost work since March. Plenty more have been effected more than me too.

Windows cleaners are coronavirus proof 

[Ggh]

180k down. Because of a load of hysterical nonsense.

[Mike Burd]

180k down. Because of a load of hysterical nonsense.

Poor Shrek. 

[Clean Cloth]

For those of you unsure if you are eligible to make the claim for the 3rd SEISS grant it is well worth signing up to the 1 hour Webinar.
You can ask questions about your own circumstances.
Also someone asked if you can claim less than 80% of average earnings, you cannot but "there is the option to repay some of the grant if you later find the decrease in earnings is not as bad as expected".

I am clear that I have fewer customers than I would normally expect, resulting in reduced activity due to social distancing or government restrictions, (internal work and a few outside asked me not to clean there because they are at risk) and have one or more commercial contracts that have been cancelled and not replaced despite leaflet dropping looking to replace it.

[jo5hm4n]

For those of you unsure if you are eligible to make the claim for the 3rd SEISS grant it is well worth signing up to the 1 hour Webinar.
You can ask questions about your own circumstances.
Also someone asked if you can claim less than 80% of average earnings, you cannot but "there is the option to repay some of the grant if you later find the decrease in earnings is not as bad as expected".

I am clear that I have fewer customers than I would normally expect, resulting in reduced activity due to social distancing or government restrictions, (internal work and a few outside asked me not to clean there because they are at risk) and have one or more commercial contracts that have been cancelled and not replaced despite leaflet dropping looking to replace it.

Can you send me the link to the webinar please?  I looked online and could not find it anywhere.

Thanks

[dazmond]

ive just picked up a nice little commercial job(offices £90)8 weekly.....its only an hours work after the first cleans been taken care of.......

[NWH]

Now now Daz remember eggs and baskets 🧺 m8

[dazmond]

Now now Daz remember eggs and baskets 🧺 m8

its still a small job....an hours work on maintenance cleans......

[CleanClear]

For those of you unsure if you are eligible to make the claim for the 3rd SEISS grant it is well worth signing up to the 1 hour Webinar.
You can ask questions about your own circumstances.
Also someone asked if you can claim less than 80% of average earnings, you cannot but "there is the option to repay some of the grant if you later find the decrease in earnings is not as bad as expected".

I am clear that I have fewer customers than I would normally expect, resulting in reduced activity due to social distancing or government restrictions, (internal work and a few outside asked me not to clean there because they are at risk) and have one or more commercial contracts that have been cancelled and not replaced despite leaflet dropping looking to replace it.

Can you send me the link to the webinar please?  I looked online and could not find it anywhere.

Thanks

The link should be in the email that HMRC send you. Not so sure its worth me copying and pasting the link as i think it is personalised with a reference.

[jo5hm4n]

Just been on the HMRC Webinar and what a load of poope that was.  So much conflicting information.

This is something they published though on a Presentation.

3. Situations not meeting the eligibility criteria
Example A: increased costs
Chloe is an electrician; she’s still trading but has had increased costs due to buying masks,
cleaning supplies and screens.
Chloe is not eligible for the third grant because increased costs were the only impact on her
business, and she has not lost customers.
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
Third grant
OFFICIAL

Example B: self-isolating following trip abroad
Ash, a dentist, returns from a holiday abroad and has to self-isolate for 14 days due to
quarantine rules.
As this is the only impact on her business, Ash is not eligible to claim the third grant. This is
because reduced demand due to self-isolation after foreign travel is not included in the
eligibility criteria.

Example C: voluntary reduction in business activity
John, an accountant, reduces his business activity because he wants to partially retire. He
reasonably believes this will have a significant reduction on his trading profits.
John is not eligible for third grant because the reduced business activity was not caused by
coronavirus.

Example D: voluntary reduction in business activity
Liz is a dog walker. One of her clients cancels a contract due to coronavirus. Liz could look
for additional work to replace the contract, but she chooses not to.
This means her business activity and her trading profits are reduced through choice, and not
because of coronavirus.
Liz is not eligible for the third grant.

This Example D worrys me.  How many of us claimed on the basis of lost work/contracts/demand.  But they are now saying that if you didn't replace the work, then you chose not to increase your income, so therefore you are not elligle.

WTF.  Guess we are all screwed guys.

[Arnold Palmer]

Just been on the HMRC Webinar and what a load of poope that was.  So much conflicting information.

This is something they published though on a Presentation.

3. Situations not meeting the eligibility criteria
Example A: increased costs
Chloe is an electrician; she’s still trading but has had increased costs due to buying masks,
cleaning supplies and screens.
Chloe is not eligible for the third grant because increased costs were the only impact on her
business, and she has not lost customers.
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
Third grant
OFFICIAL

Example B: self-isolating following trip abroad
Ash, a dentist, returns from a holiday abroad and has to self-isolate for 14 days due to
quarantine rules.
As this is the only impact on her business, Ash is not eligible to claim the third grant. This is
because reduced demand due to self-isolation after foreign travel is not included in the
eligibility criteria.

Example C: voluntary reduction in business activity
John, an accountant, reduces his business activity because he wants to partially retire. He
reasonably believes this will have a significant reduction on his trading profits.
John is not eligible for third grant because the reduced business activity was not caused by
coronavirus.

Example D: voluntary reduction in business activity
Liz is a dog walker. One of her clients cancels a contract due to coronavirus. Liz could look
for additional work to replace the contract, but she chooses not to.
This means her business activity and her trading profits are reduced through choice, and not
because of coronavirus.
Liz is not eligible for the third grant.

This Example D worrys me.  How many of us claimed on the basis of lost work/contracts/demand.  But they are now saying that if you didn't replace the work, then you chose not to increase your income, so therefore you are not elligle.

WTF.  Guess we are all screwed guys.

Bollox. You tried to get more but couldn't. The government pandemic forced businesses to close which has caused mass unemployment leading to a reduction in demand.

If I was Liz I'd be claiming. Screw them.

[Splash & dash]

Just been on the HMRC Webinar and what a load of poope that was.  So much conflicting information.

This is something they published though on a Presentation.

3. Situations not meeting the eligibility criteria
Example A: increased costs
Chloe is an electrician; she’s still trading but has had increased costs due to buying masks,
cleaning supplies and screens.
Chloe is not eligible for the third grant because increased costs were the only impact on her
business, and she has not lost customers.
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
Third grant
OFFICIAL

Example B: self-isolating following trip abroad
Ash, a dentist, returns from a holiday abroad and has to self-isolate for 14 days due to
quarantine rules.
As this is the only impact on her business, Ash is not eligible to claim the third grant. This is
because reduced demand due to self-isolation after foreign travel is not included in the
eligibility criteria.

Example C: voluntary reduction in business activity
John, an accountant, reduces his business activity because he wants to partially retire. He
reasonably believes this will have a significant reduction on his trading profits.
John is not eligible for third grant because the reduced business activity was not caused by
coronavirus.

Example D: voluntary reduction in business activity
Liz is a dog walker. One of her clients cancels a contract due to coronavirus. Liz could look
for additional work to replace the contract, but she chooses not to.
This means her business activity and her trading profits are reduced through choice, and not
because of coronavirus.
Liz is not eligible for the third grant.

This Example D worrys me.  How many of us claimed on the basis of lost work/contracts/demand.  But they are now saying that if you didn't replace the work, then you chose not to increase your income, so therefore you are not elligle.

WTF.  Guess we are all screwed guys.

But if you temporarily have a job cancel let’s say a hotel as they have to shut and the clean price is £600 every 4 weeks , you cannot easily replace that , Evan if you picked up 10 x£20 houses you are still out of pocket so you should be able to claim .

[Bungle]

Just been on the HMRC Webinar and what a load of poope that was.  So much conflicting information.

This is something they published though on a Presentation.

3. Situations not meeting the eligibility criteria
Example A: increased costs
Chloe is an electrician; she’s still trading but has had increased costs due to buying masks,
cleaning supplies and screens.
Chloe is not eligible for the third grant because increased costs were the only impact on her
business, and she has not lost customers.
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
Third grant
OFFICIAL

Example B: self-isolating following trip abroad
Ash, a dentist, returns from a holiday abroad and has to self-isolate for 14 days due to
quarantine rules.
As this is the only impact on her business, Ash is not eligible to claim the third grant. This is
because reduced demand due to self-isolation after foreign travel is not included in the
eligibility criteria.

Example C: voluntary reduction in business activity
John, an accountant, reduces his business activity because he wants to partially retire. He
reasonably believes this will have a significant reduction on his trading profits.
John is not eligible for third grant because the reduced business activity was not caused by
coronavirus.

Example D: voluntary reduction in business activity
Liz is a dog walker. One of her clients cancels a contract due to coronavirus. Liz could look
for additional work to replace the contract, but she chooses not to.
This means her business activity and her trading profits are reduced through choice, and not
because of coronavirus.
Liz is not eligible for the third grant.

This Example D worrys me.  How many of us claimed on the basis of lost work/contracts/demand.  But they are now saying that if you didn't replace the work, then you chose not to increase your income, so therefore you are not elligle.

WTF.  Guess we are all screwed guys.

But if you temporarily have a job cancel let’s say a hotel as they have to shut and the clean price is £600 every 4 weeks , you cannot easily replace that , Evan if you picked up 10 x£20 houses you are still out of pocket so you should be able to claim .

Mullion Cove Hotel? Hmm.... might have to put a tender in for £500