[dd]

About 10 quid a day to run hot water for 3 years roughly 🤣🤣 you want to get some better paying work then.

So you are spending around 2k a year or more on diesel to run it?

If you were to buy 1 and run it come on  keep up for Christ’s sake.

? Just surprised you think these Webasto heaters cost "absolutely peanuts" to buy and run. and you are spending in excess of 10k over 5 years just on the diesel to run it.

That is peanuts when you run a successful business , it’s well worth the expense we have them in all our vans , the extra work we do due to using hot  more than pays for  it , maybe a sole trader charging £5 a house and earning £75 a day couldn’t afford it but charge right and have a good customer base and it’s well worth the expense

To most on here as sole traders I do not think it is peanuts.

I would be surprised if anyone on here charges £5 a house and earns £75 a day. If you wish to make a serious point, use serious and realistic figures.

[NWH]

Lol if you can’t afford to buy and run a heater with an outlay of 5 grand I think you need to either get a job working for a window cleaner with decent work or do something else,let’s be honest what other outlay have you got apart from poles.
Go and look at what the other trades like plumbers and electricians have to buy just so they can do the job,and don’t say they earn far more than window cleaners because I know for a fact they don’t,or shouldn’t be if you’ve been at this a while I think there’s a lot of window cleaners that are happy with what they do and don’t look for anything more as far as quality of work goes do what you’ve always done get what you’ve always got type of thing 😉.

[NWH]

dd it’s peanuts when you’ve got a rich wife m8 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[robert mitchell]

Same as my other heater Splash next to no carbon build up in mine I couldn’t believe it when looked inside,I just had tiny bits of carbon no major at all.

How often does your heater shut down in a day or go into half heat mode?mine obviously goes into half heat mode many times during a day as I dont have a second pump constantly pumping hot water back into the tank so when I'm moving between houses or walking back to the van it will go into half heat mode until I plug it back into my return to tank valve.....sometimes mine will shut down and start up again once or twice  a day if I accept a brew off a customer and dont plug back into the tank.....this could cause my premature coked up burner IMO....

Mine from ionics has a valve that diverts water to tank when you switch off the pole .

Sounds better than the Grippa in that respect. How old was it when you started having problems?

I bought it secondhand but the system was built in 2009 and its the original webasto , so 11 years old , still fixable but parts come to about 6-700 so thought i would rather just replace the whole unit .

[robert mitchell]

I don’t need to turn off I have endless water and I wouldn’t stand chatting for half hour either that’s costing money not the heater,I wouldn’t buy an Onring from ionic anyway talking of being ripped off and all that.

I bought it secondhand and only paid book price for the van , which was way below average mileage .....so effectively i got the system for free, Ionics kit is quality but i guess if your scratching around for peanuts Nige then its hard to afford

[NWH]

If you are ever able to get hold of a cabinet you can buy the whole kit for a 5kw Webasto heater for just over a 1000 easy enough to put together if you can do basic DIY.

[dd]

Lol if you can’t afford to buy and run a heater with an outlay of 5 grand I think you need to either get a job working for a window cleaner with decent work or do something else,let’s be honest what other outlay have you got apart from poles.
Go and look at what the other trades like plumbers and electricians have to buy just so they can do the job,and don’t say they earn far more than window cleaners because I know for a fact they don’t,or shouldn’t be if you’ve been at this a while I think there’s a lot of window cleaners that are happy with what they do and don’t look for anything more as far as quality of work goes do what you’ve always done get what you’ve always got type of thing 😉.

Cold water users are also able to earn a very good living. You seem to believe that because you use hot water you earn much more than cold water users, who are inferior.

[NWH]

I don’t need to turn off I have endless water and I wouldn’t stand chatting for half hour either that’s costing money not the heater,I wouldn’t buy an Onring from ionic anyway talking of being ripped off and all that.

I bought it secondhand and only paid book price for the van , which was way below average mileage .....so effectively i got the system for free, Ionics kit is quality but i guess if your scratching around for peanuts Nige then its hard to afford

M8 I could go out and buy what car- van I wanted tomorrow let alone an Ionic’s system lol,to a certain extent I like to be able to work on it myself to a point the only thing I’m scratching around for is my nuts 🥜 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[NWH]

I don’t think cold water users are inferior at all they just have a cable fetish they love the feel of cold rubber running through their fingers every morning 🤣🤣🤣.

[deeege]

Trying to argue with NWH about heaters is possibly the only more pointless thing in life than arguing with Herman about his crap inventions.

Both utterly pointless and a complete waste of time and energy.

[G Griffin]

M8 I could go out and buy what car- van I wanted tomorrow

You da man!

[KS Cleaning]

If you are ever able to get hold of a cabinet you can buy the whole kit for a 5kw Webasto heater for just over a 1000 easy enough to put together if you can do basic DIY.

Really? Apparently your heroes down at Grippa didn’t do a very good job of Daz’s and they’re meant to be professionals 🤣

[NWH]

Well he said I couldn’t get an Ionic’s system lol,what the hell are you doing on this thread again Griff no one has mentioned a single thing about Coronavirus 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[NWH]

The other heater I have is different gravy tbh it’s all very cramped in the cabinet I’ll just keep throwing money at it lol.

[G Griffin]

Well he said I couldn’t get an Ionic’s system lol,what the hell are you doing on this thread again Griff no one has mentioned a single thing about Coronavirus 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You have.

[G Griffin]

The other heater I have is different gravy tbh it’s all very cramped in the cabinet I’ll just keep throwing money at it lol.

You da man!

[G Griffin]

Sorry did someone mention coronavirus blimey how’s it going Griff still isolating for charity are you 🤣🤣🤣🤣

There you are.
I'll keep track of your fibs, if you like?
You da man!

[Stoots]

£50 a week to run hot is £50 too much, show me it earns me £100 a week and im in.

When is it actually needed ? i dont recall a single day ive been unable to work because of cold water freezing, so wheres the advantage apart from warm hands. Up north our hands are made of leather anyway.

[robert mitchell]

Lol if you can’t afford to buy and run a heater with an outlay of 5 grand I think you need to either get a job working for a window cleaner with decent work or do something else,let’s be honest what other outlay have you got apart from poles.
Go and look at what the other trades like plumbers and electricians have to buy just so they can do the job,and don’t say they earn far more than window cleaners because I know for a fact they don’t,or shouldn’t be if you’ve been at this a while I think there’s a lot of window cleaners that are happy with what they do and don’t look for anything more as far as quality of work goes do what you’ve always done get what you’ve always got type of thing 😉.

Cold water users are also able to earn a very good living. You seem to believe that because you use hot water you earn much more than cold water users, who are inferior.

Im not convinced NWH actually cleans any windows , he spends nearly all his day on here but never stops for a chat with customers because time is money 

I have to admit that going back to cold until my new heater arrives is not enjoyable for me and on average work has been taking about an hour longer per day ...........i love using hot and i have noticed after doing a few days with cold water that i use a fair bit less water using hot .


But i dont think it really makes your business more profitable , the extra costs pretty much even it out in my opinion , unless your Nigel that earns millionsand can buy whatever he wants and has an infinity sized tank with endless water apparently !

[dd]

Trying to argue with NWH about heaters is possibly the only more pointless thing in life than arguing with Herman about his crap inventions.

Both utterly pointless and a complete waste of time and energy.

Add to that the superiority of VW and German vehicles in general.