[KS Cleaning]

It makes no difference if it’s a 5-10 minute job this is when you get into the loads of hours a week for not a lot of money,you have to have a minimum amount of money you want per job.
If you personally want 25 quid a job that means for any job and you have to stick to it,before you know it you’ve got a tenner here and a tenner there when you sit down and look at what your doing it doesn’t make sense or you realise that you are a busy fool,I’ve seen it before it’s almost like you are working to do people a favour.

How do you work that one out? If you hit a good hourly rate on compact work how does that equate to working loads of hours for not a lot of money?  In simple terms 6 small houses cleaned next to each other cleaned in an hour @ £12 = £72, 1 big house takes an hour @ £72, same money for the same time worked. The six houses will all be reached with an 18’ pole with no awkward windows, the big house will maybe require a 25’ pole with awkward windows and a balcony.....I know which work I prefer.

[dazmond]

I'm cleaning an estate this week...it takes me 4 days...no driving about,a couple of van moves each day..nice, steady bread and butter work......

[Mike Burd]

It makes no difference if it’s a 5-10 minute job this is when you get into the loads of hours a week for not a lot of money,you have to have a minimum amount of money you want per job.
If you personally want 25 quid a job that means for any job and you have to stick to it,before you know it you’ve got a tenner here and a tenner there when you sit down and look at what your doing it doesn’t make sense or you realise that you are a busy fool,I’ve seen it before it’s almost like you are working to do people a favour.

How do you work that one out? If you hit a good hourly rate on compact work how does that equate to working loads of hours for not a lot of money?  In simple terms 6 small houses cleaned next to each other cleaned in an hour @ £12 = £72, 1 big house takes an hour @ £72, same money for the same time worked. The six houses will all be reached with an 18’ pole with no awkward windows, the big house will maybe require a 25’ pole with awkward windows and a balcony.....I know which work I prefer.

You’re only charging £10 though.

[NWH]

Doing 1 house at leisurely pace is totally different to cleaning 6 smaller jobs ie arranging or texting each job to say I’ve been or I’m coming regardless of text software it’s more agro.
Trust me I’ve been there years ago when I started building what I already had,ask yourself would you prefer to clean 10 50 quid jobs or 50 smaller ones when you look at it like that the answer is staring at you.

[Richard iSparkle]

2 companies around me using my company name as a keyword on google ads for gutter cleaning..

one of them quoted my house as £200 to clear the gutters

the other quoted £40

we would charge about £125

 

[STEVE-UK]

I couldn’t give a monkeys what others charge!

And they don’t give a monkeys that you don’t give a monkeys because you are not a potential customer for them. Who does give a monkeys is your customers who see their low price and decide to give them a go or worse think you are overcharging them.



We had the same experience in Seaford, probably the same Eastbourne based company

Or a potential customer who sees these low prices and believes that’s the actual price.

Ps: When I say ‘you’  & ‘your’ I’m referring to established  companies not you (KS) specifically

Well yes, and no
Had a long standing customer called on by a canvasser who offered to clean the windows for half of what I charge, the guy said to him 'but what sort of job are you going to do for that price? not a good one'

It's been found that around 20% of people will only consider price before they buy, I don't really want those people as my customers.
There will be those who take advantage of the green newbie undercharging (we have all been that guy to some extent in the past) but most will stick with you.

[Ched]

2 companies around me using my company name as a keyword on google ads for gutter cleaning..
one of them quoted my house as £200 to clear the gutters
the other quoted £40
we would charge about £125
 

In that case click their ads, visit their page for 30 seconds then leave. Do that a few times a day and you will be costing them. The should soon realise that the key words with your company name don't generate any quotes and change keywords. Then might not be that clever and just keep wasting money. Also they might have very generic keywords that don't necessarily actually use your company name but I don't think there is anything stopping them using your name.
Just click their ads to cost them money as they shouldn't be using your name, that's not the game.

[NWH]

Yeah and anyone with any sense wouldn’t use the one that charges 40 quid would they,ive got no worries my customers wouldn’t use em 🤣🤣.

[KS Cleaning]

It makes no difference if it’s a 5-10 minute job this is when you get into the loads of hours a week for not a lot of money,you have to have a minimum amount of money you want per job.
If you personally want 25 quid a job that means for any job and you have to stick to it,before you know it you’ve got a tenner here and a tenner there when you sit down and look at what your doing it doesn’t make sense or you realise that you are a busy fool,I’ve seen it before it’s almost like you are working to do people a favour.

How do you work that one out? If you hit a good hourly rate on compact work how does that equate to working loads of hours for not a lot of money?  In simple terms 6 small houses cleaned next to each other cleaned in an hour @ £12 = £72, 1 big house takes an hour @ £72, same money for the same time worked. The six houses will all be reached with an 18’ pole with no awkward windows, the big house will maybe require a 25’ pole with awkward windows and a balcony.....I know which work I prefer.

You’re only charging £10 though.

I clean more than 6 small houses in an hour though, I also don’t clean any houses @ £72. I was  using these figures as an example

[jk999]

Come to west Yorkshire try n charge anymore than 60 quid to clear gutters out n 70 % of them would show you where the entrance to their property is honestly Yorkshire people are one off the tightest on the planet after the scotch 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[KS Cleaning]

Doing 1 house at leisurely pace is totally different to cleaning 6 smaller jobs ie arranging or texting each job to say I’ve been or I’m coming regardless of text software it’s more agro.
Trust me I’ve been there years ago when I started building what I already had,ask yourself would you prefer to clean 10 50 quid jobs or 50 smaller ones when you look at it like that the answer is staring at you.

Out of all my customers I only text a hanfull, and even then they tend to be the larger jobs ( yes I have large jobs as well )😂 I get that you prefer to clean big properties, but you have to realise that you are working in a completely different marketplace to me. You might get away with charging someone 60-80 quid an hour down there for what is essentially semi skilled work, but that certainly isn’t going to happen on a big enough scale up here. Whereas cleaning multiple houses means that my hourly rate, although high, slips under the radar of the customers.

[NWH]

We can only give an example of the way each of us do things but as far as cleaning 20-30 jobs a day goes that’s not something I’d want to do in any part
Of the country.

[Mike Burd]

It makes no difference if it’s a 5-10 minute job this is when you get into the loads of hours a week for not a lot of money,you have to have a minimum amount of money you want per job.
If you personally want 25 quid a job that means for any job and you have to stick to it,before you know it you’ve got a tenner here and a tenner there when you sit down and look at what your doing it doesn’t make sense or you realise that you are a busy fool,I’ve seen it before it’s almost like you are working to do people a favour.

How do you work that one out? If you hit a good hourly rate on compact work how does that equate to working loads of hours for not a lot of money?  In simple terms 6 small houses cleaned next to each other cleaned in an hour @ £12 = £72, 1 big house takes an hour @ £72, same money for the same time worked. The six houses will all be reached with an 18’ pole with no awkward windows, the big house will maybe require a 25’ pole with awkward windows and a balcony.....I know which work I prefer.

You’re only charging £10 though.

I clean more than 6 small houses in an hour though, I also don’t clean any houses @ £72. I was  using these figures as an example

My experience is that pricing is a mindset. The local guy I was talking about the other day once said to me “who’s going to pay more than a fiver for that?”. My price would have been £20 for the one he was pointing at.  He hadLoads on that street and he was welcome to them all at that price.  The point is that he had a mindset that he was only worth a fiver and didn’t value his work.

[CleanClear]

The Monkeys charging peanuts will either fail, or learn and move on and up. I'd rather earn peanuts than say... buy a round for £10K or summat then work for five months with no wage just to try to get your investment back , then hope you've a solid custy base left.

[james peters]

My experience is that pricing is a mindset. The local guy I was talking about the other day once said to me “who’s going to pay more than a fiver for that?”. My price would have been £20 for the one he was pointing at.  He hadLoads on that street and he was welcome to them all at that price.  The point is that he had a mindset that he was only worth a fiver and didn’t value his work.
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I completely agree with this.
I am nearing full capacity, for what I am prepared tom work.    I am pricing higher on all my new work, because It doesnt matter if they say no.
I think my body language goes hand in hand with mind set.
however , I am now putting up my prices on customers I have had for years to bring them into line with the new work.
I think I am more confident now , and the confidence and mind set seems to be working.

[AuRavelling79]

The thing is some take the mick with pricing i have picked 3 new builds up on an estate at £10 a piece all ten minute jobs and they came to me because the other window cleaner couldn't clean windows properly and was charging nearly £20 an house ,I live in Yorkshire any Window cleaner in Yorkshire thats been running for along time would agree with me on pricing

They must be tiny houses to do at £10 each and take ten minutes to do. I suggest they came to you more because the other guy does a crap job than his price.

[Shrek]

The thing is some take the mick with pricing i have picked 3 new builds up on an estate at £10 a piece all ten minute jobs and they came to me because the other window cleaner couldn't clean windows properly and was charging nearly £20 an house ,I live in Yorkshire any Window cleaner in Yorkshire thats been running for along time would agree with me on pricing

They must be tiny houses to do at £10 each and take ten minutes to do. I suggest they came to you more because the other guy does a crap job than his price.

One of the first questions I ask is , how much did he used to charge you?
Then if I think it’s fair , I add a couple of quid on. I would never in a million years say ok il do it 50% cheaper knowing they’ve been paying the other guy 50% more .
This example from jk is exactly how you shouldn’t run a business. You haven’t realised it but you are part of the problem. Then you say everyone would agree with your pricing- well obviously not the guy who’s charging 50% more than you!!!!

[KS Cleaning]

The thing is some take the mick with pricing i have picked 3 new builds up on an estate at £10 a piece all ten minute jobs and they came to me because the other window cleaner couldn't clean windows properly and was charging nearly £20 an house ,I live in Yorkshire any Window cleaner in Yorkshire thats been running for along time would agree with me on pricing

They must be tiny houses to do at £10 each and take ten minutes to do. I suggest they came to you more because the other guy does a crap job than his price.

One of the first questions I ask is , how much did he used to charge you?
Then if I think it’s fair , I add a couple of quid on. I would never in a million years say ok il do it 50% cheaper knowing they’ve been paying the other guy 50% more .
This example from jk is exactly how you shouldn’t run a business. You haven’t realised it but you are part of the problem. Then you say everyone would agree with your pricing- well obviously not the guy who’s charging 50% more than you!!!!

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[Shrek]

The thing is some take the mick with pricing i have picked 3 new builds up on an estate at £10 a piece all ten minute jobs and they came to me because the other window cleaner couldn't clean windows properly and was charging nearly £20 an house ,I live in Yorkshire any Window cleaner in Yorkshire thats been running for along time would agree with me on pricing

They must be tiny houses to do at £10 each and take ten minutes to do. I suggest they came to you more because the other guy does a crap job than his price.

One of the first questions I ask is , how much did he used to charge you?
Then if I think it’s fair , I add a couple of quid on. I would never in a million years say ok il do it 50% cheaper knowing they’ve been paying the other guy 50% more .
This example from jk is exactly how you shouldn’t run a business. You haven’t realised it but you are part of the problem. Then you say everyone would agree with your pricing- well obviously not the guy who’s charging 50% more than you!!!!

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[jk999]

I didn't do the price at 50%cheaper those are my prices if I want to I could do six an hour times that by five hours in Yorkshire thats good money but I have been doing this job 35 years now with a very good customer base ,put it this way I will be one of those Window cleaners that will hardly lose any customer to the covid because I don't take the mick with pricing, I make a good living through this job and I'm not about to rip people of ,I hear it every day people saying to me my window cleaner is expensive do you cover my area answer normally is sorry no I don't cant be bothered with the hassle 😅