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Scrimble

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lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« on: November 23, 2020, 11:21:34 am »
Why is it there are so many clowns about charging peanuts, gutter vacs £20 per house, same day window cleaning £8, usually advertising on facebook with a picture of a tatty old van or barrels on the back seat of a old car next to a spotless water station,

Tom-01

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2020, 11:51:15 am »
Why is it there are so many clowns about charging peanuts, gutter vacs £20 per house, same day window cleaning £8, usually advertising on facebook with a picture of a tatty old van or barrels on the back seat of a old car next to a spotless water station,

It’s a race to the bottom mate!

I started just over 10 years ago. Set my stool out to charge high and get quality work. Glad I did.

We don’t get every job we quote for, but the ones we get are top quality customers who are more interested in who we are rather than how much we are.

The phone does ring less these days that’s for sure, but we’re still always picking up new work. Did some leaflets, good expensive ones and got the work I wanted. Not loads of customers, but definitely a good ROI.

If you set out looking better than the competition and back it up with being able to talk, and showing the customer they can trust you, a solid business will be built.

The cheap faceache customers can be cleaned by others and let them scrabble around getting annoyed.

Mike Halliday

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2020, 01:36:03 pm »
People with an employed mentality, they took home £350 a week working in a factory, if they can earn the same for less hours and have the freedom of self employment then they see it as a win situation.

When you use £350 for a week to work out how much you should charge  then low prices are the result
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

NWH

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2020, 04:27:20 pm »
Fill the van up bit of shopping and 1 small bill there goes your 350 notes 😂

NBwcs

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2020, 05:17:12 pm »
Why is it there are so many clowns about charging peanuts, gutter vacs £20 per house, same day window cleaning £8, usually advertising on facebook with a picture of a tatty old van or barrels on the back seat of a old car next to a spotless water station,

Never seen so many new wc at this time of year, Springtime when the weather starts improving could be a real eye opener next year.

NWH

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2020, 05:22:14 pm »
People with an employed mentality, they took home £350 a week working in a factory, if they can earn the same for less hours and have the freedom of self employment then they see it as a win situation.

When you use £350 for a week to work out how much you should charge  then low prices are the result
350 down south wouldn’t even get you to the point of boiling the kettle bills wise,why do you think so many lazy arses say I’m not gonna get a job I’ll be worse off and they would be if they took a job for that.
Of course there’s countless people on that amount of money but it won’t allow you to run a car-van pay rent or mortgage and have any sort of life.

robbo333

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2020, 05:35:31 pm »
I couldn't care less what other window cleaners charge. It's none of my business!

I just focus on what I do and the service I offer.

At the moment, I'm leafleting again and the phone keeps ringing.

About 50% of the enquiries are good.

That'll do for me.
"Thank you for calling: if you have a 1st floor flat, mid terraced house, lots of dogs, no parking, no side access, or no sense of humour, please press hold!
For all other enquiries, please press1"

Mike Halliday

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2020, 05:36:18 pm »
You could work on a figure of £550  if they decide they will work only 6hrs a day they think £20 an hour, then ask on Facebook how long to clean the gutters on a a 3bed semi and they get told 1hr-1.5hrs so get a price of £35ish or get told it takes 15mins  to clean the windows of the same size house so again use that to get their price of £6

But when the work doesn’t come in the start thinking it’s better to earn £12hr than just be sat at home so they lower theirs prices even further ::)roll
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

james peters

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2020, 06:14:10 pm »
most  of the new start ups tend to push more for gutter clearing, fascia cleaning , etc
They focus less on the window cleaning.
I see them constantly advertising on fb  buy and sell pages.

I only do add ons for my regular window customers.... for me , the window cleaning is hastle free week in week out.
It must be a ball ache having to constantly seek these one off jobs at silly prices.

KS Cleaning

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2020, 06:18:52 pm »
I couldn’t give a monkeys what others charge!

Mike Halliday

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2020, 06:26:37 pm »
I couldn’t give a monkeys what others charge!

And they don’t give a monkeys that you don’t give a monkeys because you are not a potential customer for them. Who does give a monkeys is your customers who see their low price and decide to give them a go or worse think you are overcharging them.

Or a potential customer who sees these low prices and believes that’s the actual price.

Ps: When I say ‘you’  & ‘your’ I’m referring to established  companies not you (KS) specifically
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

NWH

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2020, 06:49:38 pm »
That’s why I always avoided customers like this the vast majority don’t care or want someone that’s gonna clean their windows for peanuts,it sets alarm bells ringing for a lot of people if money’s not a problem neither is paying a bit more,it’s like when I get a leaflet through my door for roof repairs etc it goes in the bin.

H2GoKent

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2020, 07:24:51 pm »
I couldn’t give a monkeys what others charge!

And they don’t give a monkeys that you don’t give a monkeys because you are not a potential customer for them. Who does give a monkeys is your customers who see their low price and decide to give them a go or worse think you are overcharging them.

Or a potential customer who sees these low prices and believes that’s the actual price.

Ps: When I say ‘you’  & ‘your’ I’m referring to established  companies not you (KS) specifically

Well yes, and no
Had a long standing customer called on by a canvasser who offered to clean the windows for half of what I charge, the guy said to him 'but what sort of job are you going to do for that price? not a good one'

It's been found that around 20% of people will only consider price before they buy, I don't really want those people as my customers.
There will be those who take advantage of the green newbie undercharging (we have all been that guy to some extent in the past) but most will stick with you.
A manager is generally someone who has been promoted to the position by someone else who didn't see them as a threat.
Hence all people are promoted to the level of their incompetence

jk999

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2020, 08:12:57 pm »
The thing is some take the mick with pricing i have picked 3 new builds up on an estate at £10 a piece all ten minute jobs and they came to me because the other window cleaner couldn't clean windows properly and was charging nearly £20 an house ,I live in Yorkshire any Window cleaner in Yorkshire thats been running for along time would agree with me on pricing

wayne 77

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2020, 09:28:07 pm »
Why is it there are so many clowns about charging peanuts, gutter vacs £20 per house, same day window cleaning £8, usually advertising on facebook with a picture of a tatty old van or barrels on the back seat of a old car next to a spotless water station,
Facebook is a race to the bottom
Leave the clowns to Facebook and Facebook prices
People will pay for a quality service,   

SB Cleaning

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2020, 09:40:19 pm »
Why is it there are so many clowns about charging peanuts, gutter vacs £20 per house, same day window cleaning £8, usually advertising on facebook with a picture of a tatty old van or barrels on the back seat of a old car next to a spotless water station,
Facebook is a race to the bottom
Leave the clowns to Facebook and Facebook prices
People will pay for a quality service,
When i was advertising on FB i found most were just penny pinching one off wonders....

Shrek

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2020, 10:01:51 pm »
Why is it there are so many clowns about charging peanuts, gutter vacs £20 per house, same day window cleaning £8, usually advertising on facebook with a picture of a tatty old van or barrels on the back seat of a old car next to a spotless water station,

The thing is some take the mick with pricing i have picked 3 new builds up on an estate at £10 a piece all ten minute jobs and they came to me because the other window cleaner couldn't clean windows properly and was charging nearly £20 an house ,I live in Yorkshire any Window cleaner in Yorkshire thats been running for along time would agree with me on pricing

Because the clowns think people charging more are taking the mick 😂

NWH

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2020, 11:43:35 pm »
It makes no difference if it’s a 5-10 minute job this is when you get into the loads of hours a week for not a lot of money,you have to have a minimum amount of money you want per job.
If you personally want 25 quid a job that means for any job and you have to stick to it,before you know it you’ve got a tenner here and a tenner there when you sit down and look at what your doing it doesn’t make sense or you realise that you are a busy fool,I’ve seen it before it’s almost like you are working to do people a favour.

dazmond

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2020, 07:52:14 am »
At the end of the day we can all charge what we want....invariably i find the really dirt cheap window cleaners dont do a great job and customers are willing to pay a higher price for a better job...

price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: lots of monkeys charging peanuts
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2020, 07:55:06 am »
It makes no difference if it’s a 5-10 minute job this is when you get into the loads of hours a week for not a lot of money,you have to have a minimum amount of money you want per job.
If you personally want 25 quid a job that means for any job and you have to stick to it,before you know it you’ve got a tenner here and a tenner there when you sit down and look at what your doing it doesn’t make sense or you realise that you are a busy fool,I’ve seen it before it’s almost like you are working to do people a favour.

If the works very compact you can still make a decent days money with lots of smaller jobs.....I know I do....for short working hours too.....👍
price higher/work harder!