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Bungle

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2020, 08:12:30 pm »
£30K Plus for this crew cab when new 18 months ago, now been sat in Peoples Ford for three weeks getting a new engine.(under warranty) . You don't always get what you pay for.



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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2020, 08:55:49 pm »
Am looking to purchase a 2nd hand van in January.
Looking to spend between £500-£1000.
I seen a Citroen Berlingo for £600 on gumtree, 10 months mot, says it runs fine, seems a good deal.
What advice would you give to buying a second hand van?
Just looking a getting a small van that will be an ok runner while still building my round.

If i was looking at something like that i would budget another couple hundred quid so that when i got it i'd pop it in garage for oil/filter change and cambelt/alternator belt if there was no concrete history on it.
You are not likely to get a new cambelt fitted for under £400 on its own.
Ask around for recommendations for a good mobile mechanic.
I had an oil and filter change plus cam belt change on my ford ranger last year prior to selling it this february. Think I paid just over £200

EandM

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2020, 10:13:31 pm »
£30K Plus for this crew cab when new 18 months ago, now been sat in Peoples Ford for three weeks getting a new engine.(under warranty) . You don't always get what you pay for.



Was it the oil pump by any chance?

CleanClear

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2020, 10:33:26 pm »
Was it the oil pump by any chance?

Its not actually mine its my mates. But believe it or not it was the brake servo/vaccum pump , apparently it fails then some bits fall down into th engine and its at the back of the engine. The sales rep knew the problem straightaway, said it would need a new engine. I said i've never heard of a new engine needed for a brake servo !! But there you go, its obviously happened before . Imagine buying a used one with no warranty and that happens ? They should probably of really done a recall . And to add insult to injury, they've told him it will need a service from them and a stamp to retain the warranty  ;D
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Shrek

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2020, 05:55:02 am »
Was it the oil pump by any chance?

Its not actually mine its my mates. But believe it or not it was the brake servo/vaccum pump , apparently it fails then some bits fall down into th engine and its at the back of the engine. The sales rep knew the problem straightaway, said it would need a new engine. I said i've never heard of a new engine needed for a brake servo !! But there you go, its obviously happened before . Imagine buying a used one with no warranty and that happens ? They should probably of really done a recall . And to add insult to injury, they've told him it will need a service from them and a stamp to retain the warranty  ;D

Why is your ciu name the same as your mates business name?

Spruce

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2020, 06:34:20 am »
£30K Plus for this crew cab when new 18 months ago, now been sat in Peoples Ford for three weeks getting a new engine.(under warranty) . You don't always get what you pay for.



Was it the oil pump by any chance?

That was a good question.

Despite all the oil pump problems they have had in the past they are sticking with the rotary vane design oil pump on the Ford engines.
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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2020, 06:47:40 am »
Am looking to purchase a 2nd hand van in January.
Looking to spend between £500-£1000.
I seen a Citroen Berlingo for £600 on gumtree, 10 months mot, says it runs fine, seems a good deal.
What advice would you give to buying a second hand van?
Just looking a getting a small van that will be an ok runner while still building my round.

I've looked on Gumtree and Ebay. I haven't seen one Berlingo or Partner van I would look at. They are mostly high mileage and interestingly, the majority are 1.9 diesels
If you are going to look at small vans for window cleaning then you need a side sliding door imo. Son's first van was a Peugeot Partner without a slide sliding door. His current Berlingo has a side sliding door and its so much easier to work from.

Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Shrek

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2020, 06:53:02 am »
Am looking to purchase a 2nd hand van in January.
Looking to spend between £500-£1000.
I seen a Citroen Berlingo for £600 on gumtree, 10 months mot, says it runs fine, seems a good deal.
What advice would you give to buying a second hand van?
Just looking a getting a small van that will be an ok runner while still building my round.

I've looked on Gumtree and Ebay. I haven't seen one Berlingo or Partner van I would look at. They are mostly high mileage and interestingly, the majority are 1.9 diesels
If you are going to look at small vans for window cleaning then you need a side sliding door imo. Son's first van was a Peugeot Partner without a slide sliding door. His current Berlingo has a side sliding door and its so much easier to work from.

How? My transit has a side sliding door and I never use it  ???

Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2020, 07:48:32 am »
Am looking to purchase a 2nd hand van in January.
Looking to spend between £500-£1000.
I seen a Citroen Berlingo for £600 on gumtree, 10 months mot, says it runs fine, seems a good deal.
What advice would you give to buying a second hand van?
Just looking a getting a small van that will be an ok runner while still building my round.

I've looked on Gumtree and Ebay. I haven't seen one Berlingo or Partner van I would look at. They are mostly high mileage and interestingly, the majority are 1.9 diesels
If you are going to look at small vans for window cleaning then you need a side sliding door imo. Son's first van was a Peugeot Partner without a slide sliding door. His current Berlingo has a side sliding door and its so much easier to work from.

How? My transit has a side sliding door and I never use it  ???
It all depends on how you've set up and what you carry. I've a Berlingo with the longer load area and twin sliding doors. I find it very useful because I slide a folding combi ladder in there on its side on top of the tank with it strapped to the bulkhead. My backpack also sits down the side of the tank by the other sliding door. Having sliding doors also made access easier for initially fitting the tank.

CleanClear

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2020, 09:10:20 am »
Was it the oil pump by any chance?

Its not actually mine its my mates. But believe it or not it was the brake servo/vaccum pump , apparently it fails then some bits fall down into th engine and its at the back of the engine. The sales rep knew the problem straightaway, said it would need a new engine. I said i've never heard of a new engine needed for a brake servo !! But there you go, its obviously happened before . Imagine buying a used one with no warranty and that happens ? They should probably of really done a recall . And to add insult to injury, they've told him it will need a service from them and a stamp to retain the warranty  ;D

Why is your ciu name the same as your mates business name?
You mean why is my mates business name the same as mine ? Some things will have to remain a puzzle i'm afraid  ;D
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EandM

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2020, 11:35:19 am »
£30K Plus for this crew cab when new 18 months ago, now been sat in Peoples Ford for three weeks getting a new engine.(under warranty) . You don't always get what you pay for.



Was it the oil pump by any chance?

That was a good question.

Despite all the oil pump problems they have had in the past they are sticking with the rotary vane design oil pump on the Ford engines.

The design goes back decades. The Morris Minor has a vane oil pump but unlike the Ford one, seems to work.
BMW have used them for decades and I've never heard of one failing.
The Ford Australia design doesn't seem to be very well executed. Although in the Ranger, the 20,000 mile first oil change doesn't help either.

FAI make a very good geared replacement oil pump which is a fit and forget.
If I ever get to own a Ranger T6 that will be my preferred route.

Mike Burd

Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2020, 02:16:27 pm »
£30K Plus for this crew cab when new 18 months ago, now been sat in Peoples Ford for three weeks getting a new engine.(under warranty) . You don't always get what you pay for.



Was it the oil pump by any chance?

That was a good question.

Despite all the oil pump problems they have had in the past they are sticking with the rotary vane design oil pump on the Ford engines.

The design goes back decades. The Morris Minor has a vane oil pump but unlike the Ford one, seems to work.
BMW have used them for decades and I've never heard of one failing.
The Ford Australia design doesn't seem to be very well executed. Although in the Ranger, the 20,000 mile first oil change doesn't help either.

FAI make a very good geared replacement oil pump which is a fit and forget.
If I ever get to own a Ranger T6 that will be my preferred route.
My experience of Ford SA is poor quality. Rattling dash, front seat upholstery failure, plug socket installed upside down, both keys failed  and finally a coolant leak last Christmas that cost £2,000 as just out of warranty.

Spruce

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2020, 09:20:23 am »

Was it the oil pump by any chance?
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That was a good question.

Despite all the oil pump problems they have had in the past they are sticking with the rotary vane design oil pump on the Ford engines.
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The design goes back decades. The Morris Minor has a vane oil pump but unlike the Ford one, seems to work.
BMW have used them for decades and I've never heard of one failing.
The Ford Australia design doesn't seem to be very well executed. Although in the Ranger, the 20,000 mile first oil change doesn't help either.

FAI make a very good geared replacement oil pump which is a fit and forget.
If I ever get to own a Ranger T6 that will be my preferred route.
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I didn't know that. I thought it was a Ford design.

TBF I replaced the oil pump on my 2.2hdi Boxer due to the many failures reported. The previous owner had had the van serviced by Peugeot every time and the oil pump was fine when I took it out.

Its one of those parts you can't predict what will happen to it. It could have outlasted the van, it could have failed the following week or the new pump could also fail tomorrow. What I did find was despite the regular servicing done by Peugeot the oil pump suck up tube needed the strainer cleaning out. TBH that surprised me.

I'm still very much thinking about doing a oil pump upgrade to the geared conversion although its become less of a priority.

A fellow windie with the same year Citroen Relay with less miles had his oil pump fail. That's what made me change mine pronto.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

CleanClear

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2022, 10:18:16 pm »
And its back in Fords again. Airmass flow sensor, split pipe , not all cylinders firing etc... about 10 days to go till the warranty ends  ;D
Breakdown recovery =good thing. Ford warranty service=not so much.

£30K Plus for this crew cab when new 18 months ago, now been sat in Peoples Ford for three weeks getting a new engine.(under warranty) . You don't always get what you pay for.


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dazmond

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2022, 08:42:25 am »
Unbelievable.....I've never heard of anyone having major problems with any van(unless it's an old vivaro) that's less than 7 or 8 years old
price higher/work harder!

Ggh

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2022, 02:43:23 pm »
I’ve a combo going cheap. Good for a 350litre tank. I’ll put a new battery on it and new mot. Message if you’re interested.

Stoots

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Re: Buying a 2nd hand van
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2022, 07:18:23 pm »
Unbelievable.....I've never heard of anyone having major problems with any van(unless it's an old vivaro) that's less than 7 or 8 years old

funny you should say that i bought a 2006 vivaro last march as  as a second van, i ended up using it myself and have put 8k on it without a hitch. Its even gone through its m.o.t today all it needed was a bush.