[Smudger]

Electric reel extreme poles extreme brushes  and hot water buy those 3 things and you can save all the rest you’ll waste,3 things essential to the serious operator like me m8 🤣🤣🤣👍

😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤠🤩🤩🤩😂😂😂

[NWH]

👍 if you use cold you’ll be left out in it.

[robbo333]

It depends on how you 'lay your stall out'.

I do wfp. I also offer, fsg cleans, connies in and out, gutter vac, pressure washing, soft washing...set of saucepans and a cuddly toy!

Sometimes I just want a Toyota Hilux pickup, (Japanese import 'intimidator') bespoke 500l tank, my trustee 22 xtreme, 3 brushes and all the extras I can fit into 2 x 22 litre windys buckets, plus lids of course.

One day 

[NWH]

Gotta beeeeeee hot hot 🥵 🥵 will be tomorrow 28 degrees down this way.

[dazmond]

i think i did everything the right way round......i spent many years driving old cars and old vans with limited equipment...you didnt need much back in my trad days....i didnt earn much either!

when i switched to WFP  i spent 6 or 7 years experimenting with different set ups,trolleys,backpacks various poles,cheap,gas hot water systems,etc and again driving old vehicles....after a few breakdowns(vehicles not mentally!)i decided to get a brand new van and get it properly sign written,by this time my round had become a lot more profitable over the 6 or 7 years since i switched to wfp so could easily afford the monthly repayments and then got a professionally fitted diesel heater installed a few months later.....

i dont want to be breaking down in my van and constantly fannying around with equipment like i did when i had a gas water heater...i just want to go to work,get it cleaned and come home in the most efficient manner possible with as little downtime as possible......

[jk999]

Why is it that everyone that buys brand new vehicles think they are never gonna break down ,if a new vehicle breaks down they cost alot more to repair than old vans and warranty s dont always cover the breakdown

[NWH]

If you buy a new vehicle you haven’t got to pay for it to be repaired though have you for a few years,I agree some vans keep going but with a newer one you get the comforts and if you do a lot of mileage you can’t beat doing it in comfort.

[jk999]

I have had new vehicles and not everything get s fixed free of charge trust me ,only the first year of a new vehicle s life is fixed for free

[Stoots]

Having an older van will always be more cost effective, depreciation on new or newer vehicles sees to that.

As for reliability, simple diesel engines on older vans are usually more reliable than all the latest electrics in newer vans.

Lets face it we buy new vans because they look nice and because we want them that's all.

My old 51 plate scudo had 300k on the clock, someone bought it off me and drove to Poland in it. The old 1.9d a proper engine.

This truck I bought will throw its timing chain or snap in half in the next 5 next years and when it does break down it will cost me a lot more than my old scudo would have that's for sure.. I only paid £500 for the entire van, that's a set of tyres on this lol but I still wanted it.

Same old story with most things in life, there's having enough then there's having excess and most will try to justify the excess as necessity.

[Dry Clean]

The biggest problem when buying an older van is getting a good one, most will be x work vans that will have had a hard life and in need of a few quid spent on them, even then there is no guarantee that they will be reliable, I bought my van from new, its now going on 13 has been well looked after looks like new and has around 35k miles on the clock, hopefully it will do me for another 5 years until I retire, at that stage it will have cost me around £800 a year to buy and maintain.
Its the upfront costs that make some think that a new van is a false economy.

[dazmond]

Why is it that everyone that buys brand new vehicles think they are never gonna break down ,if a new vehicle breaks down they cost alot more to repair than old vans and warranty s dont always cover the breakdown

i always had old vans that had been battered by the time i got my hands on them...a new one will last a very long time with limited mileage and regular servicing esp when its just used for work....mines never broke down in 3 and a half years and dont expect it to for many years yet.....

[dazmond]

The biggest problem when buying an older van is getting a good one, most will be x work vans that will have had a hard life and in need of a few quid spent on them, even then there is no guarantee that they will be reliable, I bought my van from new, its now going on 13 has been well looked after looks like new and has around 35k miles on the clock, hopefully it will do me for another 5 years until I retire, at that stage it will have cost me around £800 a year to buy and maintain.
Its the upfront costs that make some think that a new van is a false economy.

just as a matter of interest has your van ever broke down in the 13 years of having it mate?

[Dry Clean]

The biggest problem when buying an older van is getting a good one, most will be x work vans that will have had a hard life and in need of a few quid spent on them, even then there is no guarantee that they will be reliable, I bought my van from new, its now going on 13 has been well looked after looks like new and has around 35k miles on the clock, hopefully it will do me for another 5 years until I retire, at that stage it will have cost me around £800 a year to buy and maintain.
Its the upfront costs that make some think that a new van is a false economy.

just as a matter of interest has your van ever broke down in the 13 years of having it mate?

First time this year, died on me on the way home from work and had to be towed to the garage, actually thought that it might have been the turbo as the 1.6 dispatches have an issue with them, luckily it wasn't, but while at the garage I got a full service including a well overdue new timing belt and so on, so all in it cost around £700, other than that its just been a few electrical problems such as the electric windows and central locking which haven't been that costly to get fixed.

[CLEANCARE WC]

Spend money when YOU HAVE TO, save money WHENEVER YOU CAN.

Do I listen to my own wisdom... Most of the time No 🙄

[Ooooooog]

The biggest problem when buying an older van is getting a good one, most will be x work vans that will have had a hard life and in need of a few quid spent on them, even then there is no guarantee that they will be reliable, I bought my van from new, its now going on 13 has been well looked after looks like new and has around 35k miles on the clock, hopefully it will do me for another 5 years until I retire, at that stage it will have cost me around £800 a year to buy and maintain.
Its the upfront costs that make some think that a new van is a false economy.

35k in 13 years?

[dazmond]

The biggest problem when buying an older van is getting a good one, most will be x work vans that will have had a hard life and in need of a few quid spent on them, even then there is no guarantee that they will be reliable, I bought my van from new, its now going on 13 has been well looked after looks like new and has around 35k miles on the clock, hopefully it will do me for another 5 years until I retire, at that stage it will have cost me around £800 a year to buy and maintain.
Its the upfront costs that make some think that a new van is a false economy.

35k in 13 years?

I do around 2,500-3,000 miles a year in my van(just used for work)

[jay moley]

My set up is pretty basic: 2 SLX 27's. Only one gets used each day since changing from two men to one. Then an SLX -39, hardly used. Basic hose reels (manual).

Have a gutter vac on board but hardly used.

Trad tools (hardly used) and a ladder.

Never seen the point in having different brushes, the one I use, extreme sill, does everything.

I've thought about an electric reel but I don't find reeling in manually difficult physically.

O yeah - the warning sign - essential bit of kit!!

[dazmond]

My set up is pretty basic: 2 SLX 27's. Only one gets used each day since changing from two men to one. Then an SLX -39, hardly used. Basic hose reels (manual).

Have a gutter vac on board but hardly used.

Trad tools (hardly used) and a ladder.

Never seen the point in having different brushes, the one I use, extreme sill, does everything.

I've thought about an electric reel but I don't find reeling in manually difficult physically.

O yeah - the warning sign - essential bit of kit!!

your working day would be a lot easier with an electric reel,xtreme poles instead of SLXs and hot water and ditch the warning signs but each to their own......

[NWH]

Ditch the warning signs lol I wouldn’t do that one.

[dazmond]

Ditch the warning signs lol I wouldn’t do that one.

ive not used warning cones for years now mate...i was always leaving them on jobs,driving over them or customers/joe public nearly tripping over them!so got rid......