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Crystal-clear

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On the roof of a building at least 7 stories high.
Won't be able to get pure water up there.
There is a lot of panels someone gave me the idea of traditional basically with the extendable Pole.
Other site is also big I have a feeling the jobs will be about 2 Men one day each site. Potential to lead to window cleaning as well could be a bit of a lucky break as as I really do enjoy commercial adding VAT to invoice's is bliss.

However Need some guidance on how to undertake work should quote be excepted.
Have taken previous advice on here before told to just clean solar panels with only pure water.
But that was just for domestic customers that you can reach with pole
In this case considering you can't get the water up it would have to be done traditionally right? Any other advice that may be needed please chuck at at me
Cheers!




KS Cleaning

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2020, 02:29:04 am »
This is a wind up right? Are you saying you’ve submitted a quote without actually knowing how to do the job🙈

richard connett

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2020, 07:25:01 am »
Couldn’t you get a back pack and 25ltr drums up?

Crystal-clear

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2020, 08:12:22 am »
Couldn’t you get a back pack and 25ltr drums up?

Cheers well I Thought about that one
I think it will be too much work lugging all that up.
Realistically I think doing them all by hand and the extendable Pole.
In the past have done solars only with pure water and pole as most have said don't use any chemicals.

I know a simple detergent nothing stronger than what you find in your own house doing dishes is also ok.

I think it's going to have to be all done by hand which ain't a bad thing they'll still come up good just take a bit longer.
Anyone else has any other tips
Cheers.

Slacky

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2020, 08:28:55 am »
Why cant you get the water up there at 7 stories?

Buy a longer hose.

Good luck trying to use a back pack to get your water up there. Especially if its a big job.

Slacky

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2020, 08:29:43 am »
Why is adding VAT to invoices bliss?

Smudger

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2020, 08:35:11 am »
Why is adding VAT to invoices bliss?
;D

Crystal - what a load of old bollo -  you don't need pure water to clean solar panels and you can use chemicals - its glass
firstly as slacky points out - get a longer hose - drop it over the side and connect it up

alternatively get a water source from the top floor of the building and plug your hose and pole into that - IF you find you struggle with a finish ( which I doubt ) put a squeegee on a pole and squeegee after you scrub.

come on man, - think outside the box - be positive

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Shrek

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2020, 09:38:27 am »
7 stories is 21 meters isn’t it ?

Ooooooog

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2020, 09:47:35 am »
Make sure your insurance covers you for working at that height, most doesn’t.
You do need pure water.
We do a lot of this work.
Watch out for skylights.  Is there a man safe system and does it have a current certificate?

Crystal-clear

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2020, 09:49:52 am »
Why is adding VAT to invoices bliss?
;D

Crystal - what a load of old bollo -  you don't need pure water to clean solar panels and you can use chemicals - its glass
firstly as slacky points out - get a longer hose - drop it over the side and connect it up

alternatively get a water source from the top floor of the building and plug your hose and pole into that - IF you find you struggle with a finish ( which I doubt ) put a squeegee on a pole and squeegee after you scrub.

come on man, - think outside the box - be positive

Darran

Hi so you are saying use chemicals its glass and even use tap water to let them dry? And worst case scenario you the squeegee if there's a problem with the finish?
I think dropping a long hose over the side of the building isnt a good idea but that's irrelevant because you're saying you can use tap water

Can you please also recommend me what chemical exactly to go for? As I have heard from others that you should only consider a domestic soapy solution I'm pretty sure it was splash and dash who said avoid chemicals on solar panels.

Please can you confirm a couple of things
As oooog has said you do need pure water

thank you very much for your assistance.

By the way if anyone has experience in this I wouldn't mind a little bit of help

please drop an email I knew I'll get a few silly comments and it doesn't bother me because I know a lot of people want to know these things but don't want to ask in case they get made to feel stupid. Im pleased people are Learning keep the good advice coming guys !





Crystal-clear

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2020, 09:57:00 am »
Make sure your insurance covers you for working at that height, most doesn’t.
You do need pure water.
We do a lot of this work.
Watch out for skylights.  Is there a man safe system and does it have a current certificate?

Hi mate really appreciate the good advice here.
I know solar panels can be cleaned with an extension basically traditionally do you also undertake it that way and what chemical do you use if you use one at all? So you're saying under no circumstances use tap water as you can see see other experienced people say you can.

Ooooooog

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2020, 10:16:38 am »
All the pv manufactures I’ve spoken to, have specified pure water.
There are a couple of chemicals you can use, these have been thoroughly tested  (as have the brushes) and are accepted by the industry as safe to use.
We trialled a new product a week or two ago and it was poor (on lichen).
If you’re cleaning in urban environment, then all you’ll need is pure water.
Seagulls are your enemy.

Crystal-clear

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2020, 10:37:48 am »
All the pv manufactures I’ve spoken to, have specified pure water.
There are a couple of chemicals you can use, these have been thoroughly tested  (as have the brushes) and are accepted by the industry as safe to use.
We trialled a new product a week or two ago and it was poor (on lichen).
If you’re cleaning in urban environment, then all you’ll need is pure water.
Seagulls are your enemy.

Hi mate once again really appreciate your positive advice. Could I by any chance drop you an email
Or I can leave you mine for a few other questions.

Would love the whole forum to learn but unfortunately it's one of those Saturday mornings where people come out with lots of irrelevant responses like they're waiting to pounce for something that sounds a bit silly but in reality
You have proven is not as straightforward as it may sound. Particular insurance make sure pure water make sure manholes you are also confirming to be careful with detergents etc etc .
So lots to learn indeed.

Dave Willis

Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2020, 02:27:10 pm »
You’ll most likely need a risk assessment and method statement on that one.

Crystal-clear

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2020, 03:18:36 pm »
You’ll most likely need a risk assessment and method statement on that one.

Aye risk assessment too and oooog who is a solar person says only pure water etc. See it ain't as easy as nipping down and cracking on is it. Why has everyone gone quiet now ? come on at first it all seemed like I'm asking a silly question with obvious answers now others have fortunately given advice
Not many thought was coming.

Everyone on this forum should be encouraged to ask what they like without feeling anxious about people's responses just because you feel it's self-explanatory it might not be just like this situation isn't exactly the easiest. As a couple of experienced people are contradicting each other with different information.

Honesty doesnt bother me but I know it puts off other people from posting and I can guarantee you a lot of people are learning from this post as we speak and not commenting.

I think a lot of us have learnt loads over the years and I think it should say that way.
So please keep the positive helpful comments coming. And i hope everyone's having a lovely weekend  :)


 

Shrek

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2020, 03:33:30 pm »
I’m sure you’ll find some cheap way of doing it you tightwad. A bit of spit and an old rag then you don’t have to spend any money! It’s all about the profit! Aaaahhh think of that vat , such bliss .
Cracks me up this site , people taking on jobs they haven’t got a clue how to do or how to price up or haven’t even got the staff to do it but yeah il give you a quote wtf  ::)roll

Dave Willis

Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2020, 03:36:39 pm »
Probably because a) maybe not many on here today (Saturday) and b) it’s a job few have done.

If it was me, and I’ve never done a job like it. I’d be looking to park the van at the base of the building and running a hose up the outside.
You could probably also getaway with tap water up a pole with something like a wagtail jetstream on the end too.

Simon Trapani

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2020, 03:53:47 pm »
I doubt Smudger meant to literally drop the hose off the side of a building :o More like just lower it down.

Personally I'd just avoid the job. Sounds like a right ball ache.

NWH

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2020, 04:31:39 pm »
If you can’t fathom how to clean it with minutes of seeing it I’d say it’s not the job for you.

Smudger

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Re: Been asked to quote for commercial solar panel jobs (big)
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2020, 04:36:29 pm »
Yes was a figure of speech - and yes it's been done, yes I've used tap water on solar panels and no they haven't fallen apart

Sorry if you feel an alternative method of cleaning is "silly"

I'll leave you to work out your own problems in future

All the best

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience