[Dry Clean]

Yes but you get the fly by nights  get what info they need  then go canvass go and charge stupid cheap prices  earn what the can then move on leaving all the guys  who have done this job most of there working lives having to deal with the aftermath of  Cheap  prices   you see it all to offten..rant over.

I agree with you as well.  But this happens in all walks of life.  There will always be someone who wants to do it on the cheap, or knows where you can get it  or do it cheaper.  We recently had someone who told us they could get  the same sealer for half the price we were selling it for and he told me where where they had seen it.  The price was less than my Trade buying in price .  So I thought  about it, spoke to the manufacturer who categorically stated it was impossible to get it at that price.  Then I decided if the supplier was telling the truth it either had to be counterfeit or stolen.  I thought  Sod it, and I sent for a bottle . 

1.  It arrived 10 Days later.
2.  The bottle looked genuine.
3.  I contacted the manufacturer and from the batch number they identified it had been made in 2013,  and consequently was 5 years past it sell by date and useless.  They went through their books for that period of sale of that batch.
4.  From this they then found out it was part of bankrupt stock lot  from a tile shop that had been flogged by some auction house 2 years previously.

So over 80 people had bought useless bottles of sealer albeit 1/2 normal retail but they might as well have bought pop.

It ‘s the same with traders, if you get someone in  just because they are cheap and you don’t check them out and don’t ask to see there portfolio or at least check on them,  then you deserve to have your fingers burnt in my opinion.  If it looks cheap or too good to be true then it usually is!  But sadly Greed takes over common sense with most people

Agree with all but the last line, I don't think its greedy to want to save money especially if you don't have an endless supply of it.

[NWH]

Same goes for our braggers, its a lot easier to succeed and last in this game when your wage expectations are low than it is when expecting the opposite, especially when the truth tends to be somewhere in between, long may they continue.

Yeah I hate braggers as well I don’t clean a house under £25 but I’ve only got about 5-6 of them,is that bragging.

[Craig 72]

Lots of new lads trying to start up round my way.Saw a car this week with no roof rack so he’d obviously put all his seats down and had his ladder inside the actual car.Was sticking out of the passenger window by a good 18” 😆

[NWH]

They don’t worry me I take work off of them up the price to what it should be and keep em,sensible people can spot a chancer a mile away.
You should be questioning your customers not the chancer knocking the doors,they go away when they keep coming up against brick walls.

[Shrek]

Il tell you where there’s serious cash to be made , a lot easier too that I know of.
1. Car boot sales , selling hardware (buying wholesale)  - nuts , bolts , screws etc . My mate sells loads every day , does easily £500 cash each day he works.
2. Dog sitting (baby sitting dogs) , my mate has around 10 kennels set up in his back garden (fills Between 6-10 each day). Charges £6 an hour and each dog usually stays for around 8 hrs a day x 5 days a week all year round. Does at least £288 cash a day , plays with each dog for 20 mins, takes a picture of the dog having fun for the owner. Then sits on his arse for the rest of the day.
There’s a lot more options to make easy money these days other than window cleaning and very little outlay.

[james peters]

Im not worried personally,
window cleaning has changed since I started 29 years ago. back then it was the norm for customers to be every 4 weeks.
the majority of my 4 weekly, have been with me for 10/ 15 /20 plus years.
when I build on my customer base these days from flyers / website/ walk ups..... I  recommend every 8 or 12 weeks, but charge more...it just makes sense to get as much as you can each clean.
and the customer seems happier with these intervals, as its still cheaper than 4 weekly for them.

for a start up, it just takes too long in most cases to build an 8 or 12 weekly round.
A lot of start ups need the work rapidly, and may not understand the importance of that first clean charge. IMO a first clean charge is a must.

I often see a new cleaner cleaning a customer I have binned for being messers, skippers or bad payers, and I feel sorry for them.
but good luck to those new start ups. some will do well, but most will struggle, when they realise its harder than they thought
 

[NWH]

Yep spot on this is what I used to say to Nathan 4 weekly stuff most of the time not all of the time can be a waste of time,I have monthly stuff 200 + but they are few and far between.
If you stretch out the cleans to 6 -12 weekly you can do 35 jobs for 55 and they don’t mind because you aren’t turning up what seems like every other week to them.
If a window cleaner tells me he’s every month on all his jobs it’s not hard to figure out what kind of work he’s got when you’ve been doing this job long enough.

[Dry Clean]

Same goes for our braggers, its a lot easier to succeed and last in this game when your wage expectations are low than it is when expecting the opposite, especially when the truth tends to be somewhere in between, long may they continue.

Yeah I hate braggers as well I don’t clean a house under £25 but I’ve only got about 5-6 of them,is that bragging.

Yes.

[NWH]

Is that bragging is it oh right so Nigel here’s the question have you got a lot of small houses,No I have a few but I don’t charge less than £25 for them is that ok I better keep my voice down because it could be perceived as bragging 🤣.
If I wanted to brag I could say I’ve got a fleet of vans never get a minute to myself I’m rushed off my feet turning over in excess of a million notes, end up with about 100k in my pocket after vat and tax got no money but the potential to borrow a fortune 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💩.

[harleyman]

All my work  is 4weekley  all my Custys are happy with it  as far as iam aware no complants , suites me 

[G Griffin]

All my work  is 4weekley  all my Custys are happy with it  as far as iam aware no complants , suites me

Well it's worked for you sofa......

[NWH]

It’s not a case of them being happy I’m sure they are I’m saying it’s a fact you’ll earn more increasing the time between cleans,some want monthly that’s fair enough.
For example I have too much work so I wouldn’t join it in on a monthly cycle I haven’t got time,what do I do pass it on no I don’t I say I can only come every other month and instead of cleaning it for 25 I’d price it at 40 the balls in there court then,I get what I want for cleaning it and they get clean windows at a sensible interval.
I have some select monthly’s but they are houses that are all glass and having clean windows is almost essential to the property,huge self supporting glass and balconies of glass etc and more than worth doing.
A month comes round so so quickly in this job even the people that want it monthly often tell me that they started off with the other bloke coming every month but it was to often.

[NWH]

If I go to look at a job these days when we talk about the time between cleans they almost never want it monthly,I would say 6 weeks is the new 4 weekly or monthly now  times have changed and it’s been like it down south for quiet a few years now on larger properties,oh that might be bragging 🤣🤣🤣.

[harleyman]

At the end of the day what ever the length of time so long as every one is happy ....

[vistech]

All domestic  and commercial  monthly apart from pubs  shops fortnightly suppose it depends on workload works well for me