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Suffolkcleaners

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Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« on: June 16, 2020, 05:47:39 pm »
Hi guys. Put a post on here a few days back not knowing what system to go for. I’m a one man band and want something as easy to use as possible. I’ve done my research and come back with two options I’m looking at....

1..... PF option....

500 litre upright system tank and cage.
Large battery
Fitted flow master
100psi shurflo pump
Fitted battery to battery charge system (split relay so I can charge from van battery I think?)
Trolley dump(can fill my backpack lol)
Hose reel 100 m
All fittings
Bolt kit to bolt tank down
1 metre blue hose for trolley dump

All for £2200.00 with an optional extra for them to fit and me to drive to Lincolnshire for an extra £400. So £2600.00 total(or £3000 if I want to upgrade to an electric hose reel)

OR
2... 425 Litre Facelift system with brackets and ready to install for £1158.00. Won’t have trolley dump and will need to find someone to install it for me...

Big difference in price. Question is which one? Would the Facelift be just as good as the PF?

Cheers

NWH

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2020, 06:12:16 pm »
Personally for just a basic cold system I’d go for a waterworks one it incorporates the reel on the top of the system so more space if you are limited.

NWH

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2020, 06:12:56 pm »
Everything built within the systems footprint.

LBWCS

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2020, 06:37:59 pm »
Cant comment on other systems but I’ve had a Purefreedom for 6 years and it hasn’t missed a beat. No leaks, breakages etc. Very well made. I’m sure others are too

Suffolkcleaners

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2020, 07:01:42 pm »
Got a transit custom so quite  a bit of room. I wonder if the facelift will be just as easy and efficient to use as the PF options..

Anybody on here have the Facelift? If so how good is it?

KS Cleaning

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2020, 07:10:25 pm »
If you are getting the facelift system you will be better just using the reel and not bothering with a trolley dump. As the day goes on and the water level drops it will be next to useless for filling a backpack as it’s not an upright tank.

Ralphie

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2020, 07:14:30 pm »
I’ve got the facelift compact 425 system in my Nissan  nv200, gives me loads of water with lots of room for extra equipment.

Perfect for me but I sure the lads with other systems would say theirs was perfect.

It’s what works for you.

Suffolkcleaners

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2020, 07:17:55 pm »
Cheers KS. There is a 650 Phoenix option also but that’s the same money as the PF option almost

andyralph

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2020, 07:27:49 pm »
Hi I’ve got a 700 litre  P2 platinum  they have a hose for backpacks and do a 350 and 500 very litre 1 and 2 man user and good value

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2020, 07:52:10 pm »
Is this 'trolley dump' just a T piece off the tank hose with a gate/lever valve on it? If so, it's a tenners worth of parts.
Comfortably Numb!

andyralph

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2020, 07:53:55 pm »
No u have a lever at the bottom of the tank with pipe attached to a trigger easy

Suffolkcleaners

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2020, 07:54:31 pm »
Thanks Andy. Around £2400 for a 500 litre delivery only. Looks smart. They all look good Lol.

Suffolkcleaners

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2020, 07:57:54 pm »
Is this 'trolley dump' just a T piece off the tank hose with a gate/lever valve on it? If so, it's a tenners worth of parts.

I’m not sure. PF have quoted but haven’t broken down the individual prices Of each piece of equipment. I’m still baffled (pardon the pun with baffled tanks) as to why the earth there isn’t a universal bracket on the market to fit all tanks. 😜

NWH

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2020, 08:02:24 pm »
The waterworks come ready to just connect to battery and fill up with water I believe from what I’ve seen.

Suffolkcleaners

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2020, 08:10:56 pm »
Hi NWH

This waterworks system just googled them based in Corby. Cool. Thanks for that. Will check them out also..... 👍

stu_thomson

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2020, 08:24:23 pm »
I have the 425 facelift and is perfect for me, had it about 4 years now, strap in van and ready to go, also have the smaller version as a back up in a trailer
People say that money is not the key to happiness, but I always figured if you have enough money, you can have a key made!

Suffolkcleaners

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2020, 08:37:36 pm »
Hi Stu/Ralphie

Do you have the Manuel or electric hose reel? Also did you get a garage to install it or is it easy to DIY? Is the hose reel good quality also? Easy to reel in etc etc. Do you work with the hose reel freestanding or fixed in? Cheers

stu_thomson

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2020, 09:07:02 pm »
Both my systems came with manual reel which is already bolted onto tank, I changedmy main system that I Use on a regular basis to a electric reel  which has the same footprint as the manual so just go on to existing holes which are pre-drilled in the tank, both tanks are easily lifted  with two people and ratchet strapped into Van, honestly couldn’t be more simpler !

Stu
People say that money is not the key to happiness, but I always figured if you have enough money, you can have a key made!

Suffolkcleaners

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2020, 09:39:18 pm »
Thanks for that Stu. I’m seriously considering this option now. Quite  a bit cheaper than the PF option. (Not that it’s all about cost bit it’s only me in the business) Is there no option to bolt the tank in rather than ratchet strap it? When I contacted WCW earlier they said there were brackets to install it?

swanson

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Re: Pure Freedom Vs Facelift
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2020, 09:48:09 pm »
I have a varitec system
400 litre caged tank.
All I can say is they are extremely well made and a very professional company to deal with. :)