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H MAN

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Lifting heavy items out vans
« on: June 08, 2020, 08:50:12 am »
Just put this up had a friend 27 years solid build had been 'lifting back pack water trolley out of his van for years.
Until few months ago lifted it out bit twist then bang.
He now unable to lift anything as looks as though back is gone,
That was about 3 month ago.
This is why asking this.
Noticed people that have water back packs,large 30 to 40 litre water containers on trolley systems.
Also heavy DI systems on trolleys or any other heavy items that need to be lifted off/ out of your van/trucks etc.
Has anyone have a particular way to lift them OUT/OFF.
OTHER THEN PHYSICAL LIFTING THEM

dazmond

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2020, 09:00:35 am »
Noticed people that have water back packs,large 30 to 40 litre water containers on trolley systems.
Also heavy DI systems on trolleys or any other heavy items that need to be lifted off/ out of your van/trucks etc.
Has anyone have a particular way to lift them OUT/OFF.
OTHER THEN PHYSICAL LIFTING THEM

Most window cleaners wise up and get rid of them after a few years and go for van mounts with electric fixed reels....far easier on the body.....👍
price higher/work harder!

Shrek

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2020, 09:08:01 am »
Noticed people that have water back packs,large 30 to 40 litre water containers on trolley systems.
Also heavy DI systems on trolleys or any other heavy items that need to be lifted off/ out of your van/trucks etc.
Has anyone have a particular way to lift them OUT/OFF.
OTHER THEN PHYSICAL LIFTING THEM

If you have to do this for jobs then you need to seriously re think how you run your business.

H MAN

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2020, 09:08:56 am »
Noticed people that have water back packs,large 30 to 40 litre water containers on trolley systems.
Also heavy DI systems on trolleys or any other heavy items that need to be lifted off/ out of your van/trucks etc.
Has anyone have a particular way to lift them OUT/OFF.
OTHER THEN PHYSICAL LIFTING THEM

Most window cleaners wise up and get rid of them after a few years and go for van mounts with electric fixed reels....far easier on the body.....👍
Yes understand that but what do you do till then to make easier to lift heavy them out??

dazmond

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2020, 09:19:07 am »
Noticed people that have water back packs,large 30 to 40 litre water containers on trolley systems.
Also heavy DI systems on trolleys or any other heavy items that need to be lifted off/ out of your van/trucks etc.
Has anyone have a particular way to lift them OUT/OFF.
OTHER THEN PHYSICAL LIFTING THEM

Most window cleaners wise up and get rid of them after a few years and go for van mounts with electric fixed reels....far easier on the body.....👍
Yes understand that but what do you do till then to make easier to lift heavy them out??

I used to lift them in and out keeping my back as straight as possible!bending my knees instead....I dont miss the days I used to lift a 50L pure freedom trolley out of my van and  pushing it around when I first started WFP....🙄😀
price higher/work harder!

H MAN

  • Posts: 1211
Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2020, 09:43:58 am »
Noticed people that have water back packs,large 30 to 40 litre water containers on trolley systems.
Also heavy DI systems on trolleys or any other heavy items that need to be lifted off/ out of your van/trucks etc.
Has anyone have a particular way to lift them OUT/OFF.
OTHER THEN PHYSICAL LIFTING THEM

Most window cleaners wise up and get rid of them after a few years and go for van mounts with electric fixed reels....far easier on the body.....👍
Yes understand that but what do you do till then to make easier to lift heavy them out??

I used to lift them in and out keeping my back as straight as possible!bending my knees instead....I dont miss the days I used to lift a 50L pure freedom trolley out of my van and  pushing it around when I first started WFP....🙄😀
So that is quite a weight to lift  50kgs plus the trolley weight.
But everyone got start some where.
When they do haven't money to have fully equipped van with all the bells and whistles.
All I asked if anyone know a lifter to get them out without busting your boiler.
This would probably help when starting off.
Would think before you got to you had a big water tank in your van.
You would of like to of do it easier?



alank

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2020, 10:35:20 am »
Use a ramp or get an ex delivery van or wheelchair accessible van with  a taillift. 👍

Stoots

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2020, 10:49:59 am »
Are you stuck in a time warp H Man. Trad gear, trolleys.

Keep going you might catch up one day.

Splash & dash

  • Posts: 4364
Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2020, 10:56:11 am »
I would use a ramp and wheel it in and out of the van , as most others have said generally we all use a van mount system like this all you need to carry is the pole so much easier , quicker and safer and none need to keep re filling .

Simon Trapani

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2020, 11:14:14 am »
Noticed people that have water back packs,large 30 to 40 litre water containers on trolley systems.
Also heavy DI systems on trolleys or any other heavy items that need to be lifted off/ out of your van/trucks etc.
Has anyone have a particular way to lift them OUT/OFF.
OTHER THEN PHYSICAL LIFTING THEM

Most window cleaners wise up and get rid of them after a few years and go for van mounts with electric fixed reels....far easier on the body.....👍
Yes understand that but what do you do till then to make easier to lift heavy them out??

I used to lift them in and out keeping my back as straight as possible!bending my knees instead....I dont miss the days I used to lift a 50L pure freedom trolley out of my van and  pushing it around when I first started WFP....🙄😀
So that is quite a weight to lift  50kgs plus the trolley weight.
But everyone got start some where.
When they do haven't money to have fully equipped van with all the bells and whistles.
All I asked if anyone know a lifter to get them out without busting your boiler.
This would probably help when starting off.
Would think before you got to you had a big water tank in your van.
You would of like to of do it easier?

Yeh but Daz is hard as nails. He goes to the gym didn’t you know? ;D

Stoots

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2020, 11:33:47 am »
I would use a ramp and wheel it in and out of the van , as most others have said generally we all use a van mount system like this all you need to carry is the pole so much easier , quicker and safer and none need to keep re filling .


How many poles  :o

Splash & dash

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2020, 12:07:40 pm »
I would use a ramp and wheel it in and out of the van , as most others have said generally we all use a van mount system like this all you need to carry is the pole so much easier , quicker and safer and none need to keep re filling .


How many poles  :o


8 per van with two guys in each one .

Jay Le Huray

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2020, 01:57:46 pm »
I have a trolley system in my van which I use on a couple of jobs

I always make sure it empty when putting it back in the van even if it means throwing away a few ltrs of pure water

when I need it I lift it out of the van (it's very light) and fill it from my hose so no heavy lifting involved

brianbarber

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2020, 02:54:53 pm »
I had this happen to me, not in the same league as your mate.
What I found was pulling the 25litre carbouys from the bulkhead to the back  doors of the van was not good for the back.
If I had a trolley or back pack use a lightweight wooden ramp to wheel it out the van
Or do what I did get rid of trolley and go full van mounted tank.
I found pulling these carbouys about at weird angles was the thing that causes issues as all of the weight  could be put on one side of your back.
To sum up either forget trolleys or backpack......or use a  12v pump and fill the backpack on the ground when it’s empty and bungy  it to a small luggage type trolley.

Mr B
If in doubt.....Leave it out !!

AuRavelling79

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2020, 06:37:16 pm »
8 Poles per van!

There are less Poles in Warsaw.
It's a game of three halves!

Smudger

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2020, 07:03:28 pm »
as the others have said use a ramp or get a diy system in the van - with your experience and skills that would work out cheaper than a trolley system

and s it happens I went straight to a van system


8 poles in a van - now thats what I call crowded

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

swanson

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2020, 07:07:12 pm »
I would tidy the back (what a mess) ;D ;D

Splash & dash

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2020, 07:09:10 pm »
8 Poles per van!

There are less Poles in Warsaw.


We do bungalows right up to 8 storey hotels and apartment blocks so need a variety of sizes in poles , we also work two guys per van on some jobs three per van so basically need two poles in each size , per van .

Splash & dash

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2020, 07:10:26 pm »
I would tidy the back (what a mess) ;D ;D





To busy working to do that time is money 😂😂😂😂

[GQC] Tim

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Re: Lifting heavy items out vans
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2020, 08:14:00 pm »
Splash & Dash, nice internal ladder rack, where did you get that from? Grippatank?