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nathankaye

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2020, 11:06:49 am »
Wow.
So when i was trad constantly, i knew I was fast. Yes cleaning windows is like riding a bike, you dont forget but I am much slower!  I am also amazed and frustrates knowing just how much faster wfp is!
So after today lol I might spend a day rebuilding a trolley system again  ;D
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NWH

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2020, 11:21:51 am »
Yeah I would do lol.

dazmond

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2020, 01:54:26 pm »
Wow.
So when i was trad constantly, i knew I was fast. Yes cleaning windows is like riding a bike, you dont forget but I am much slower!  I am also amazed and frustrates knowing just how much faster wfp is!
So after today lol I might spend a day rebuilding a trolley system again  ;D

i dont blame you nathan......

dont forget you not getting any younger and it only takes one slip.......its madness to clean upper windows with a ladder these days.....you could still keep your hand in with the trad for ground floor windows if you need to conserve water....

i use to dread winter on the ladders.....the slippy decking and wet imprinted concrete/gravel driveways!as well as all that climbing on roofs! ::)roll ;D
price higher/work harder!

NWH

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2020, 02:47:27 pm »
The red stinging fingers I was thinking of.

windowswashed

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2020, 11:40:33 am »
If I was going back to trad I wouldn't include the frames, just glass only. Even if you doubled the price for cleaning the frames it wouldn't make sense time wise so you'd have to charge high for frames and agree with customer to charge more quarterly or six monthly to include the frames. 
Why go back to trad if only working temporary hours, keep WFP gear and buy a small tank instead.

Slacky

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2020, 12:01:21 pm »
Why go back to trad if only working temporary hours, keep WFP gear and buy a small tank instead.

Give him time.  :D

P @ F

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2020, 01:12:47 pm »
I never said goodbye to Nath , and look , he’s halfway back already !

 ;D  WELCOME HOME NATHAN   ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

AuRavelling79

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2020, 01:22:13 pm »
They can check out but they can never leave ...  ;D
It's a game of three halves!

nathankaye

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2020, 02:52:53 pm »
Still need my escape on here 😁😎

But yes, after working friday on houses which I thought i could get away with just trad on. I forgot about the odd windows and one house where the front garden slopes, so the ladders are not save to use. 
So before next month, im putting a trolley together for those houses and I have arranged with a mate round  corner from me to fill 4 tubs of water.
So i will be wfp upstairs nntrad down lol
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P @ F

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2020, 02:59:09 pm »
WELCOME BACK NATH  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

nathankaye

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #50 on: May 17, 2020, 03:16:47 pm »
WELCOME BACK NATH  ;D


 ;D ;D
Though never said i was actually leaving the forum. Just that i was virtually stopping working.  Im down to one day a month lol
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nathankaye

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2020, 11:00:59 pm »
So, its done!
Confirmed with mate about supplying some pure water my way, once a month.
I have the spare parts and pumps to make a new pump box, but require battery, on/off switch, casing and then the issue of a trolley.  So ive gone practical, as I dont have much spare time nowadays to make the actual box and secure to a trolley to lift in/out boot of the car. So opted for the gardiners back pack with 15m extra pole hose and.....
Switched from the carbon pole and ordered the clx22, still keeping the 14inch brush brush though but tying fan jets for the first time. Yes i have to go with 4 fan jets though hahah  ;D

Although, i did enjoy (from a fitness point of view) using the ladder and so on houses where I dont require wfp, i think i will still trad clean hhhhhmmmm
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deeege

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2020, 06:47:27 am »
So you’re not claiming the grant because you don’t want to deal with the tax liability? I’ve heard it all now.

You were cleaning 30+ houses a day and from what you put on here your prices were decent. Assuming you were declaring your income (?????) you will be entitled to £7500 or very close to it. You could then spend that £7500 on a van and system and your tax liability on that £7500 will be close to zero. Instead you are choosing to knock up a system from bits and pieces and buy water from a mate.

Sorry Nathan, something doesn’t add up here mate.
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

Dry Clean

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #53 on: May 18, 2020, 07:30:20 am »
So you’re not claiming the grant because you don’t want to deal with the tax liability? I’ve heard it all now.

You were cleaning 30+ houses a day and from what you put on here your prices were decent. Assuming you were declaring your income (?????) you will be entitled to £7500 or very close to it. You could then spend that £7500 on a van and system and your tax liability on that £7500 will be close to zero. Instead you are choosing to knock up a system from bits and pieces and buy water from a mate.

Sorry Nathan, something doesn’t add up here mate.
There's nothing new here, if there's an easy way to do something Nathan will do the opposite. lol

nathankaye

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #54 on: May 18, 2020, 10:53:44 am »
Im sorry guys, if im not joining the rest scrambling to get my hands on a government grant!  Sorry to disapoint!

Ive made good money by selling very good work and having one chap mostly buy all of it (80%) and that will see my income topped up enough to buy clothes etc for my family whikst we adapt to our new way of life. 
I am also confident with my own ability to rapidly build my work back up again if in the future my circumstances change again and I also have other cleaning jobs still booked in.    For now, I have i will have a steady but low income coming in on a set day.  I dont have to worry about tds, my van security or which pole is heavier than the next.  Is my work getting behind, have I processed the payments, have I done my books.  Is my battery topped up etc etc etc.
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NWH

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #55 on: May 18, 2020, 10:58:17 am »
Very hard to get away from this job I’ve known plenty say that’s it I’ve had enough,to easy walking round colouring in windows 🤣🤣🤣 who wants to work for a living.

nathankaye

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #56 on: May 18, 2020, 11:04:29 am »
Mate, its hard as im still getting alot of enquiries through and having to pass them on.  The hard bit is adjusting as its very easy to swing this around and build back up again. Yet saying that, later in the day my wife will become quite ill again and I see why weve made this sacrifice and it suddenly becomes clear again.
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deeege

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #57 on: May 18, 2020, 11:38:56 am »
Im sorry guys, if im not joining the rest scrambling to get my hands on a government grant!  Sorry to disapoint!

Ive made good money by selling very good work and having one chap mostly buy all of it (80%) and that will see my income topped up enough to buy clothes etc for my family whikst we adapt to our new way of life. 
I am also confident with my own ability to rapidly build my work back up again if in the future my circumstances change again and I also have other cleaning jobs still booked in.    For now, I have i will have a steady but low income coming in on a set day.  I dont have to worry about tds, my van security or which pole is heavier than the next.  Is my work getting behind, have I processed the payments, have I done my books.  Is my battery topped up etc etc etc.

Scrambling around? It’s a very simple application that can be completed within minutes and assuming you’ve been paying your taxes whilst cleaning 30+ houses a day you’ll get close to £7500 within days.

You have a business that was adversely effected by the coronavirus and a young family to support. If not for you then take the grant and invest it in a trust fund for your children’s future, to give them a head start in life.


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zesty

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #58 on: May 18, 2020, 11:54:52 am »
I don’t understand why you aren’t taking the grant Nat?

And remember, the intention to clean the downstairs trad never materialises. As soon as you use WFP, you think ‘sod it, I’m doing the whole house wfp’

😁

NWH

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Re: So going back to trad
« Reply #59 on: May 18, 2020, 12:13:59 pm »
There’s lots of window cleaners not getting anything it’s called the black market the same goes for market traders,if you are dealing in cash all day long what do you reckon they do.
Burger vans are the same all cash,you can’t have it both ways.