[G Griffin]

I'd publicly shame those that have boasted about not missing a day, not dipped into their savings, mocked the malingerers and then tell us that they are claiming the grant for reasons that don't qualify them.
I'd have them driven through the streets like Saddam did to captured British soldiers during The Gulf War.

[Granny]

Unless people are thinking  of claiming more than they have actually lost out on I don't see any problem.
I've listed day by day every job we've lost because of this and will claim accordingly.
The grey area comes regarding future losses.
Will some of these businesses ever re-open?
Claiming 3 months loss for what in effect will be a permanent loss is little compensation.
One dentist has given me 3 months cancellation, another dentist has given me 6 months on the practice and the house.
Can I claim for the future extra 3 months loss of earnings is the question?
Probably not.

[Arnold Palmer]

Unless people are thinking  of claiming more than they have actually lost out on I don't see any problem.
I've listed day by day every job we've lost because of this and will claim accordingly.
The grey area comes regarding future losses.
Will some of these businesses ever re-open?
Claiming 3 months loss for what in effect will be a permanent loss is little compensation.
One dentist has given me 3 months cancellation, another dentist has given me 6 months on the practice and the house.
Can I claim for the future extra 3 months loss of earnings is the question?
Probably not.

I doubt that you'll get to choose a figure.

[Paul-kent]

I’m not sure if I will claim at the moment

My takings are 20-25% down on last year plus I don’t know what the future holds regarding lost customers after lock down and weather canvassing is going to be a worth while exercise.

But I don’t want to claim the grant then feel handcuffed to a lamp post regarding not being able to grow my business due to posting a bigger profit next year.

It’s a hard one to decide especially if their are going to be fines if you are deemed to have claimed the grant when you should not have

[KS Cleaning]

I’m not sure if I will claim at the moment

My takings are 20-25% down on last year plus I don’t know what the future holds regarding lost customers after lock down and weather canvassing is going to be a worth while exercise.

But I don’t want to claim the grant then feel handcuffed to a lamp post regarding not being able to grow my business due to posting a bigger profit next year.

It’s a hard one to decide especially if their are going to be fines if you are deemed to have claimed the grant when you should not have

There will be no problem in posting a bigger profit the following year, businesses are allowed to see growth, your profit could have been on course to increase by £5000 pre covid, but only actually grew by £3000 due to covid, so in effect your business has been affected.

[G Griffin]

I’m not sure if I will claim at the moment

My takings are 20-25% down on last year plus I don’t know what the future holds regarding lost customers after lock down and weather canvassing is going to be a worth while exercise.

But I don’t want to claim the grant then feel handcuffed to a lamp post regarding not being able to grow my business due to posting a bigger profit next year.

It’s a hard one to decide especially if their are going to be fines if you are deemed to have claimed the grant when you should not have

There's no reason that you shouldn't claim.
It's not your fault that your takings down. The government shut the country down. Take their money and grow your business.
They should thank you for doing that.

[G Griffin]

Is there a timescale for being adversely affected? The initial period was three months with a view to it being extended (it won't be).
What if you get coronavirus in late June or you lose most of your work after because of it?
Clear as Mud. That's right, that's right, that's right...…
They should have just bunged everyone the same bribe for their failure to prepare the country for the inevitable.
Shambolic.

It had better be.

Either that or they let Mrs S get back to work.

Has Mrs. S any idea what she is going to do, Souples?
It's less than a month away and she'll need to prepare (unlike the government), won't she? I think another grant will be more complicated than the first.
I really can't see it being a repeat of the first.

[Arnold Palmer]

Is there a timescale for being adversely affected? The initial period was three months with a view to it being extended (it won't be).
What if you get coronavirus in late June or you lose most of your work after because of it?
Clear as Mud. That's right, that's right, that's right...…
They should have just bunged everyone the same bribe for their failure to prepare the country for the inevitable.
Shambolic.

It had better be.

Either that or they let Mrs S get back to work.

Has Mrs. S any idea what she is going to do, Souples?
It's less than a month away and she'll need to prepare (unlike the government), won't she? I think another grant will be more complicated than the first.
I really can't see it being a repeat of the first.

Clean windows.

[Shrek]

That’s correct , tax man isn’t going to say how many jobs did you lose and you tell him iv lost 4 jobs so can you pay me £100.
You will be told if your eligible from your previous tax returns and You’ll be paid 80%

[TYCOON]

HMRC says it only expects people to use the Self-employment Income Support Scheme if they've indeed been negatively impacted, and is introducing checks to prevent fraud.

[NWH]

That’s correct , tax man isn’t going to say how many jobs did you lose and you tell him iv lost 4 jobs so can you pay me £100.
You will be told if your eligible from your previous tax returns and You’ll be paid 80%

The above is correct they will be putting self employed people back to work that work outside at the next phase,the 80% will be paid and that will be it imo.
From then on it will be then that people will find out how there business stands,this grant was to see people through 3 ish months regardless the pain will come to businesses further down the line.
I reckon there’s a lot of people out there that will just clear the credit cards when they get their grant,from then on it’ll be S**T or bust.

[Slacky]

HMRC says it only expects people to use the Self-employment Income Support Scheme if they've indeed been negatively impacted, and is introducing checks to prevent fraud.

And you've got a link or two to an appropriate website to confirm this?

Will they be monitoring phone calls from customers that are cancelling?

[NWH]

Checks to prevent fraud lol,yeah they’ve got loads of time for that at the moment dealing with furloughed employees etc,I don’t think so claim your money and don’t worry.

[steve rix]

Claim what you can. You will be paying back for others who did in the future for no return if you dont

[G Griffin]

That’s correct , tax man isn’t going to say how many jobs did you lose and you tell him iv lost 4 jobs so can you pay me £100.
You will be told if your eligible from your previous tax returns and You’ll be paid 80%

The above is correct they will be putting self employed people back to work that work outside at the next phase,the 80% will be paid and that will be it imo.
From then on it will be then that people will find out how there business stands,this grant was to see people through 3 ish months regardless the pain will come to businesses further down the line.
I reckon there’s a lot of people out there that will just clear the credit cards when they get their grant,from then on it’ll be S**T or bust.

Putting people back to work? I'm self employed and I decide when I work.
What happens with the schools when we're put back to work then?

[NWH]

They will tell the likes of us to go back to work as long you abide by the guidelines,what I mean is they’ll be no more grant-money for you lot basically.

[NWH]

Schools don’t come into this particular argument,schools don’t immediately contribute to the economy people working and paying Tax do.
When they let schools go back if you read between the lines of what they are saying it’ll be a while yet with the younger ones first.
I really can’t see what the problem is now with doing what we do if you can at this time work alone,how often do you come into contact with someone within 2 meters when you are working cleaning windows,I can easily go weeks without needing to.

[SB Cleaning]

They will tell the likes of us to go back to work as long you abide by the guidelines,what I mean is they’ll be no more grant-money for you lot basically.

I thought they had said that at the beginning of lockdown anyway.

[NWH]

I’m talking about the majority of people that work outside if not all abiding by the so called 2 meter rule,I can see them saying if you work outside of you go back to work.
If they say that things haven’t changed much in 6-7 weeks so if people have been off imo that would have been pointless as the conditions haven’t changed in that time much at all.

[deeege]

Schools don’t come into this particular argument,schools don’t immediately contribute to the economy people working and paying Tax do.
When they let schools go back if you read between the lines of what they are saying it’ll be a while yet with the younger ones first.
I really can’t see what the problem is now with doing what we do if you can at this time work alone,how often do you come into contact with someone within 2 meters when you are working cleaning windows,I can easily go weeks without needing to.

Schools don’t effect the economy? Are you serious. How do parents go to work and business start making money if they have to be at home caring for their children?

Where are you getting all this information from? Post some links to trusted sites that the younger kids are going back to school first. Your just making stuff up here as usual NWH.