[Bungle]

When are you thinking of returning to work? The government has said we are in lockdown for another 3 weeks at least. I think this is going to be recurring every 3 weeks for a long time.

Those that are working please don’t start telling us the guidelines etc, we are aware of them. I just want to get a feel of when you’re thinking of starting back.

[Smudger]

we will remain off for at least 2 more weeks - most likely all 3 - I don't think we have reached the peak yet, so based on that we shall keep the guys on furlough - hopefully the majority will carry on doing the social distancing bit and in 2 weeks all things going as it should and the virus is in decline then a return to work is on the cards

Darran

[NWH]

The peak as you say are the ones being admitted as we speak then next week it’ll be the ones that didn’t stay in over 🐣,numbers will rise again and you could think it’s starting again but after that it should level off and start to drop drastically.
This is the information that’s been talked about over the last 10 days,after the next 3 weeks that’s when they’ll talk about reintegration even then it’ll be slow I reckon people will be keeping away from each other till this time next year probably longer.
What can you do if you work outside if you wait that long you’ll only have you’re own windows to clean.

[G Griffin]

When are you thinking of returning to work? The government has said we are in lockdown for another 3 weeks at least. I think this is going to be recurring every 3 weeks for a long time.

Those that are working please don’t start telling us the guidelines etc, we are aware of them. I just want to get a feel of when you’re thinking of starting back.

That's a very good question.
I considered next week but that was earlier this week but as next week approaches I'm thinking again.
I can't see the country being ready to be re-opened in less than three weeks. Not a chance.
Whether they do it or not is a different matter. I think it'll be six weeks, at least, but that's just my opinion.

[Arnold Palmer]

For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.

Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.

I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.

Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.

So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.

[deeege]

For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.

Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.

I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.

Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.

So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.

That’s a terrible situation Soupy. I hope you manage to get your business up and running again soon.

[G Griffin]

For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.

Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.

I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.

Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.

So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.

Could you manage 'til June without the grant, Soupy? On the promise that you'll get it, that is.
I'd think about going back but it must difficult with you, your Dad and your manager out of action. And are you prepared to send your staff out when the country might not be ready after this second lockdown? If you're ready and your staff are willing and prepared then I would think about it.

[Arnold Palmer]

For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.

Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.

I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.

Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.

So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.

Could you manage 'til June without the grant, Soupy? On the promise that you'll get it, that is.
I'd think about going back but it must difficult with you, your Dad and your manager out of action. And are you prepared to send your staff out when the country might not be ready after this second lockdown? If you're ready and your staff are willing and prepared then I would think about it.

There's no grant for me in June. I'm not self employed.

It's the furlough and council grant that I'll get. There is an issue with the council grant, I've spoken to them and they can't find my rates address, we moved recently so not sure what will happen there.

The furlough is the important thing for me though. I'll see what it looks like on Monday.

[G Griffin]

For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.

Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.

I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.

Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.

So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.

Could you manage 'til June without the grant, Soupy? On the promise that you'll get it, that is.
I'd think about going back but it must difficult with you, your Dad and your manager out of action. And are you prepared to send your staff out when the country might not be ready after this second lockdown? If you're ready and your staff are willing and prepared then I would think about it.

There's no grant for me in June. I'm not self employed.

It's the furlough and council grant that I'll get. There is an issue with the council grant, I've spoken to them and they can't find my rates address, we moved recently so not sure what will happen there.

The furlough is the important thing for me though. I'll see what it looks like on Monday.

Yeah sorry, I forgot that the furlough money is supposed to come through earlier.
Could you survive on the promise of that with nothing coming in?

[Arnold Palmer]

For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.

Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.

I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.

Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.

So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.

Could you manage 'til June without the grant, Soupy? On the promise that you'll get it, that is.
I'd think about going back but it must difficult with you, your Dad and your manager out of action. And are you prepared to send your staff out when the country might not be ready after this second lockdown? If you're ready and your staff are willing and prepared then I would think about it.

There's no grant for me in June. I'm not self employed.

It's the furlough and council grant that I'll get. There is an issue with the council grant, I've spoken to them and they can't find my rates address, we moved recently so not sure what will happen there.

The furlough is the important thing for me though. I'll see what it looks like on Monday.

Yeah sorry, I forgot that the furlough money is supposed to come through earlier.
Could you survive on the promise of that with nothing coming in?

I'll be fine, maybe. I've got one, maybe two weeks of money left to pay payroll. Rishi has said that it'll be paid about 6 days after application is made, which will be Monday if the portal holds up. That is very tight, I have applied to the bank for a government backed loan for the short term but like 99% of other British businesses that have applied, no luck as yet.

[G Griffin]

Good luck, mate. You deserve it.

[Slacky]

Soupy if you don't get the money right now, this week or next week, what good is there in folding the business?

Your staff will just have to wait and when you can all go back to work you go back to work.  They will survive, albeit it'll be shit, but they'll survive and so will your business.

Truth is perhaps you should all be going back to work next week. In whatever way is suitable and as safe as can be; given the current situation.

[G Griffin]

Soupy if you don't get the money right now, this week or next week, what good is there in folding the business?

Your staff will just have to wait and when you can all go back to work you go back to work.  They will survive, albeit it'll be shit, but they'll survive and so will your business.

Truth is perhaps you should all be going back to work next week. In whatever way is suitable and as safe as can be; given the current situation.

You can't just say 'should' be going back to work without a lot more information.
He's got about 18 employees, 3 of the gaffers are out of action and then there's the customers to think about.

[Granny]

I must have missed something but I just can't see why you are not working.
Apart from 2 who have defaulted on payment there has been no negative vibe about it, everyone has just accepted we are working without question and are genuinely pleased to see us and to see us still working getting to meet customers I have never seen before.
Cash can be dealt with by disinfecting it if you're worried, my missus has a bag of disinfected coins if we have to give change which is very rare as we rarely see any cash.
Leave a tub or box on the doorstep and ask them to put the money in that while working if they can't pay online just empty it out and don't touch it for a week.
I think this is the way it's going to be for a long time so best get used to it, work along with it, change your routine and crack on before you're skint.

[Slacky]

Soupy if you don't get the money right now, this week or next week, what good is there in folding the business?

Your staff will just have to wait and when you can all go back to work you go back to work.  They will survive, albeit it'll be shit, but they'll survive and so will your business.

Truth is perhaps you should all be going back to work next week. In whatever way is suitable and as safe as can be; given the current situation.

You can't just say 'should' be going back to work without a lot more information.
He's got about 18 employees, 3 of the gaffers are out of action and then there's the customers to think about.

Griff, I said in whatever way is suitable and safe. So, with that in mind, yes he should be going back to work.

There are ways to work which are safe and suitable. Soupy may have his own health concerns but Im sure his business can run with him conducting affairs from home and liasing with his staff.

[G Griffin]

Those that are working please don’t start telling us the guidelines etc, we are aware of them. I just want to get a feel of when you’re thinking of starting back.

For you, Granny.
The flouter/malingerer ship has sailed.

[G Griffin]

Soupy if you don't get the money right now, this week or next week, what good is there in folding the business?

Your staff will just have to wait and when you can all go back to work you go back to work.  They will survive, albeit it'll be shit, but they'll survive and so will your business.

Truth is perhaps you should all be going back to work next week. In whatever way is suitable and as safe as can be; given the current situation.

You can't just say 'should' be going back to work without a lot more information.
He's got about 18 employees, 3 of the gaffers are out of action and then there's the customers to think about.

Griff, I said in whatever way is suitable and safe. So, with that in mind, yes he should be going back to work.

There are ways to work which are safe and suitable. Soupy may have his own health concerns but Im sure his business can run with him conducting affairs from home and liasing with his staff.

Fair enough, Matt.
I can't begin to grasp Soupy's situation because I've never really employed and he employs quite a few.

[Slacky]

I don't think Soupy's business will go down the pan, I just think he's an habitual moaner. And expects us to believe his bullshit

[SB Cleaning]

I must have missed something but I just can't see why you are not working.
Apart from 2 who have defaulted on payment there has been no negative vibe about it, everyone has just accepted we are working without question and are genuinely pleased to see us and to see us still working getting to meet customers I have never seen before.
Cash can be dealt with by disinfecting it if you're worried, my missus has a bag of disinfected coins if we have to give change which is very rare as we rarely see any cash.
Leave a tub or box on the doorstep and ask them to put the money in that while working if they can't pay online just empty it out and don't touch it for a week.
I think this is the way it's going to be for a long time so best get used to it, work along with it, change your routine and crack on before you're skint.

I couldn't agree more.

[G Griffin]

I don't think Soupy's business will go down the pan, I just think he's an habitual moaner. And expects us to believe his bullshit

A bit harsh .
I don't think he'll lose all his customers but he could end up with staffing problems. You only have to look at the self employed on here and there'll more uncertainty for an employed window cleaner, I'd guess.