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NBwcs

  • Posts: 881
Re: Work. ( Hmrc)
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2020, 08:42:29 pm »
" adversely affected"    very open to interpretation.
I was about 25% of the way through putting my prices up and had to knock it on the head when lockdown came. So in theory, i might not lose much in the way of customer numbers (whos knows, i might/might not) but my income will definetely be down on what it should be although could  in theory match or surpass the 19-20 tax year, Also, the bank has obliterated the interest rate, i don't have a pension, instead i took advise 16 years ago and put money into an isa instead. I've gone from 1.4% to 0,25% which is purely down to the coranavirus and will have a big impact upon my nestegg for retirement. It also means i cant get help in the way of universal credit because my pension savings are counted as normal savings.  Will the above count as "adversely affected"? who knows , it does in my book but not in the traditional way of losing customers. Ill wait  till i see the smallprint before counting on any help, and keep working safely in the meantime.

KS Cleaning

  • Posts: 3952
Re: Work. ( Hmrc)
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2020, 09:05:02 pm »
" adversely affected"    very open to interpretation.
I was about 25% of the way through putting my prices up and had to knock it on the head when lockdown came. So in theory, i might not lose much in the way of customer numbers (whos knows, i might/might not) but my income will definetely be down on what it should be although could  in theory match or surpass the 19-20 tax year, Also, the bank has obliterated the interest rate, i don't have a pension, instead i took advise 16 years ago and put money into an isa instead. I've gone from 1.4% to 0,25% which is purely down to the coranavirus and will have a big impact upon my nestegg for retirement. It also means i cant get help in the way of universal credit because my pension savings are counted as normal savings.  Will the above count as "adversely affected"? who knows , it does in my book but not in the traditional way of losing customers. Ill wait  till i see the smallprint before counting on any help, and keep working safely in the meantime.
The self employed support scheme  only covers your self employed income.

NBwcs

  • Posts: 881
Re: Work. ( Hmrc)
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2020, 09:16:06 pm »
" adversely affected"    very open to interpretation.
I was about 25% of the way through putting my prices up and had to knock it on the head when lockdown came. So in theory, i might not lose much in the way of customer numbers (whos knows, i might/might not) but my income will definetely be down on what it should be although could  in theory match or surpass the 19-20 tax year, Also, the bank has obliterated the interest rate, i don't have a pension, instead i took advise 16 years ago and put money into an isa instead. I've gone from 1.4% to 0,25% which is purely down to the coranavirus and will have a big impact upon my nestegg for retirement. It also means i cant get help in the way of universal credit because my pension savings are counted as normal savings.  Will the above count as "adversely affected"? who knows , it does in my book but not in the traditional way of losing customers. Ill wait  till i see the smallprint before counting on any help, and keep working safely in the meantime.
The self employed support scheme  only covers your self employed income.

I hear what your saying but at the end of the day i will have to supplement my pensions  lost interest through using more of my "self employed income" to make it up.  im being facetious, i used to work in the benefits office and i know theres no grey area in their eyes its black or white. but here in the real world , it clearly has affected my income adversely.
 Knocking my price increase on the head will absolutely mean i earn less in this tax year than i would had it not been for the virus.

KS Cleaning

  • Posts: 3952
Re: Work. ( Hmrc)
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2020, 09:31:45 pm »
" adversely affected"    very open to interpretation.
I was about 25% of the way through putting my prices up and had to knock it on the head when lockdown came. So in theory, i might not lose much in the way of customer numbers (whos knows, i might/might not) but my income will definetely be down on what it should be although could  in theory match or surpass the 19-20 tax year, Also, the bank has obliterated the interest rate, i don't have a pension, instead i took advise 16 years ago and put money into an isa instead. I've gone from 1.4% to 0,25% which is purely down to the coranavirus and will have a big impact upon my nestegg for retirement. It also means i cant get help in the way of universal credit because my pension savings are counted as normal savings.  Will the above count as "adversely affected"? who knows , it does in my book but not in the traditional way of losing customers. Ill wait  till i see the smallprint before counting on any help, and keep working safely in the meantime.
The self employed support scheme  only covers your self employed income.

I hear what your saying but at the end of the day i will have to supplement my pensions  lost interest through using more of my "self employed income" to make it up.  im being facetious, i used to work in the benefits office and i know theres no grey area in their eyes its black or white. but here in the real world , it clearly has affected my income adversely.
 Knocking my price increase on the head will absolutely mean i earn less in this tax year than i would had it not been for the virus.
Knocking your price increase will have affected your income. Lost interest on your pension wouldn’t.

G Griffin

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Re: Work. ( Hmrc)
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2020, 01:03:50 am »
The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
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robert mitchell

  • Posts: 1997
Re: Work. ( Hmrc)
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2020, 08:43:09 am »
if you can claim the grant that's ok, is it interest free.       better than getting a bank loan,  ill look into this grant.   

Of course its interest free , its a grant not a loan , you do not have to pay it back .
www.ishinewindowcleaning.co.uk

The man who never made a mistake never made anything.

Dry Clean

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Re: Work. ( Hmrc)
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2020, 09:10:34 am »
The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
What could go wrong,  you're now covered by Griff's reputation and him giving you the money should he be wrong.

G Griffin

  • Posts: 40745
Re: Work. ( Hmrc)
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2020, 10:39:15 am »
The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
What could go wrong,  you're now covered by Griff's reputation and him giving you the money should he be wrong.

People are panicking anyway.
Why don't you put your neck on the line and tell us what you think will happen with the grant?
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Dry Clean

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Re: Work. ( Hmrc)
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2020, 11:12:29 am »
The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
What could go wrong,  you're now covered by Griff's reputation and him giving you the money should he be wrong.

People are panicking anyway.
Why don't you put your neck on the line and tell us what you think will happen with the grant?
As I'm fortunate enough to still be able to work the honest truth is I'm not overly concerned, I'm hoping  and I suspect the government will do right by the guys/voters who need it but I certainly wouldn't bet my house on it.

TomCrowther

  • Posts: 1965
Re: Work. ( Hmrc)
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2020, 11:28:33 am »
The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
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Nah. He used to say “if it’s there, I will give you the money myself “ meaning not bloody likely.

G Griffin

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Re: Work. ( Hmrc)
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2020, 11:56:42 am »
The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
What could go wrong,  you're now covered by Griff's reputation and him giving you the money should he be wrong.

People are panicking anyway.
Why don't you put your neck on the line and tell us what you think will happen with the grant?
As I'm fortunate enough to still be able to work the honest truth is I'm not overly concerned, I'm hoping  and I suspect the government will do right by the guys/voters who need it but I certainly wouldn't bet my house on it.
Hoping and suspecting?
It's not about who needs it. This is why people are panicking. The government haven't got the time to assess whether everyone needs it.
I'm saying what the government are saying and people are panicking because others are saying what the government are not saying.
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G Griffin

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Re: Work. ( Hmrc)
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2020, 12:00:17 pm »
The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
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Nah. He used to say “if it’s there, I will give you the money myself “ meaning not bloody likely.
It's the same principle.
If the reneging of the grant is there, I'll give you the money myself.
Are the government going to risk losing so many millions of voters?
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